Fastest Base?

[EVega]

I was goin through a few threads on the performance forum and some others and I noticed that no one really has threw out bragin rights about what there running in the 1/4 and any hp ratings. Getting my feet wet with mine, finally got 1000miles on her and just curious on whos in the top spot, spare no dirty details. :D I need sum ideas on what combos are working the best.

[deadcrow27]

The fastest base without FI is probably Klutch.

[Konfucius]

:iamwiths:

[RSXtreme703]

Klutch holds it for the base! talk to him, he will tell u what u need! he knows his shit!

[Klutch RSX]

PM me or IM me if you have AIM. my screen name is KlutchRSX. or you can pop an email over to me at klutchrsx@aol.com, and or you can email me at klutchrsx@comcast.net.

ill be more than happy to point you off in the right direction. what i wuold have done, what i should have done, what i wished i would have done. i see a base model running low 14's is more than reasonable. maybe even high 13's.

i should be seeing low 14's by the end of the winter, early spring.. changing a few things i already have, mainly exhaust system.

good luck
Nick:thumbsup:

[RSXtreme703]

Check out his videos too!! good shit! hahahaa

[deadcrow27]

I'd be interested in your setup too but driving skill is why your hitting 14.6

[EVega]

dont tell me Klutch is the only on thats fixing up a rsx for speed rather than show. Any one else have any braggin rights?

[Bronzee]

Originally posted by EVega
dont tell me Klutch is the only on thats fixing up a rsx for speed rather than show. Any one else have any braggin rights?

Yeah, me!:rolleyes: Never seen a track...

MTO was and I think he was getting high14's/low15's.

[RSXtreme703]

I think my base is pretty wicked!! hahaha

[myeverlovinsir]

hmmm, try a head swap!

[EVega]

Originally posted by myeverlovinsir
hmmm, try a head swap!

Nah im gonna do some work with the base head like port n polish, bigger valves, shave the head and try a few combos with the cams. Me and my buddy who has a shop are plannin on a custom cam setup and work with diff durations. RowleyRacing (http://www.rowleyracing.com) (My old grand am is on there as a project car, site hasnt been updated in a looonngg time)

[myeverlovinsir]

Originally posted by EVega
Nah im gonna do some work with the base head like port n polish, bigger valves, shave the head and try a few combos with the cams. Me and my buddy who has a shop are plannin on a custom cam setup and work with diff durations. RowleyRacing (http://www.rowleyracing.com) (My old grand am is on there as a project car, site hasnt been updated in a looonngg time)

I can tell you that all that amounts to less, alot less! Port and polish and larger intake vales? Not worth it, the head swap is significantly better! I compared both heads, ports, valves, spring sizes, seating pressures and found that the type-s is polished quite well in comparison to the A3 head. The A3 head has some sharp edges and smaller valves/springs etc. Besides all of this, you are still lacking a true 'vtec' (intake and exhaust sides) and better flow off the larger lobes. I am probably the first one to say this to you, but not likely the last. gluk!

[EVega]

ok so ur tryin to tell me that a port n polish, getting rid of those sharp edges, larger valves and higher duration is a waste of time and money, considering that all that isnt gonna cost me very much. Only thing ill be paying for is the valves and shop work with the cams. I understand that going with a Type-s head is a proven way of getting the the most out of the base setup but on the other hand theres no1 out there with a base cam yet and my friends shop would be the first. Type-s head swap was on the list considering ill have full advantage with the true vtec and a wide variety with cam selection. How involved was the swap, what was needed? I understand u need the type s ecu, manifold and tb

[RSXtreme703]

sounds like a whole lot of work! why dont u get a faster car if ur looking for speed!

[EVega]

I dunno, was tryin 2 get a type s but insurence and car payments were alil 2 high considering i dont have much time for work with being in school. Just tryin 2 make the best of what i got

[myeverlovinsir]

Originally posted by EVega
ok so ur tryin to tell me that a port n polish, getting rid of those sharp edges, larger valves and higher duration is a waste of time and money, considering that all that isnt gonna cost me very much. Only thing ill be paying for is the valves and shop work with the cams. I understand that going with a Type-s head is a proven way of getting the the most out of the base setup but on the other hand theres no1 out there with a base cam yet and my friends shop would be the first. Type-s head swap was on the list considering ill have full advantage with the true vtec and a wide variety with cam selection. How involved was the swap, what was needed? I understand u need the type s ecu, manifold and tb

This would all be gravy to explain and show if EPhatch.com was up and running...fawk! Anyways I have documented all this stuff and I spent $350.00 for the A2 head shipped. The base RSX I believe comes with a 60mm tb. we have 62mm stock and I bored that out to 64. Manifold wise it would be interesting to see where the dual runners start to fail in comparison with this head, but think you need to have the type-r IM, which is stock on the EP. (non JDM)

One interesting thought, I found out on this board that the type-R cams are the same in gross lift, only diff. is the duration. Also, the JDM IM is 3mm wider in the runners compared to the EP/type-S, however it only is usefull in the 8k rpm range and shows slight tq losses in the 6.5-7.5 rpm range. Again, if you want to be type-S, the majority of the problem resides in the head, which is a clean swap. hth;)

[EVega]

sounds like u obviously know what ur doin, having the true vtec is sumthin that i really would b happier with and was sumthin that totally passed my mind in comparision with the A2 and A3. Could make it flow alot beter but in the end still wouldnt get the full potential as if it was a true vtec. How did u get ur hands on the ECU, full head, manifold , tb?

[D Fabulous]

i have a couple nice surprises for spring so we'll just have to wait and see =)

[kur029]

what are good mods for the auto? since klutch has manual... should my SS follow the same thing?

[AirForceOneRSX]

Originally posted by kur029
what are good mods for the auto? since klutch has manual... should my SS follow the same thing?

Just go I/H/E + Hondata and get into line with everyone else waiting for newer mods to be released.

[TravRSX]

i started at this whole base speed project...but i'm working on a very limited college student budget... i think i'm just gonna go to the dark side and go turbo

[punkdrum4ever1]

I can say im fixing mine up for speed and not so much show. I havent been to the track yet but i will at the end of feb. Right now i have a Injen CAI, JRRH, Carsound Highflow cat 2.5", Dc Sports TCS, Hondata intake gasket, Revo Short Throw and clubrsx shift bushings. In about 2 weeks it'll be hondata'ed. Cant wait. :) After that new clutch and flywheel

[Klutch RSX]

your in the 14's dude... just get the launches down... to like a 2.2 or even 2.1 if your really good, i need some people to join me for bases in the 14's... its kinda lonely. and its very nice to see base owners modding. keep up the good work. im shooting for 13's by summer. so ya'll better hurry up

:-)

[punkdrum4ever1]

Im comin after ya clutch ;)

[C25A1guy]

I kinda got my bragging right, but not for drag racing.

I did consistant 1:30's lap times at Buttonwillow with nothing but AEM CAI, H&R springs and Type R rear sway

[yeahi]

im coming for ya klutch! only problem is im going turbo..ehhhh a lil different but still fast!

[Klutch RSX]

im staying N/A i need the reliabilty and im just a NA type of person.

Nick

[punkdrum4ever1]

same here, NA for me 2,unless i wanna supercharge:D

[Klutch RSX]

no super chargers out for the base yet... :-) unless you custom fit the one for the s on there. or get an S head and then super charge it. mmmm drool

Nick

[D Fabulous]

i have a nice surprise for you guys sitting right beside me haha lets just say no other base has it yet! but i gotta wait till summer to put it on wayyy to cold right now!

D

[breakdown]

I might as go NA too since JR is being ghey about releasing a SC for the base. Hopefully cams and other engine parts actually come out for the base.

[punkdrum4ever1]

Supposedly crower is making cams for the base.

[D Fabulous]

skunk 2 was supposed to too... but every company always slacks when it comes to the base!!!

D

[RiordensRSX]

What is the fastest time anyone has ran in the 1/4 without mods? I know i can break into the 15's. I ran close to a 16 flat w/ out mods and it was a shitty run.

[yeahi]

man slip an intake and ur in 15's for sure

[RiordensRSX]

im scared to do anything to my car, i did work on my accord and all it did was start to smell like shit...i was constantly worried about it. I/H/E and hi flow cat shaved 1.5 sec off the 1/4 for the accord. If i wanted to i could put better tires on my car and i could hit 15s for sure. Im experiencing mad wheel hop in first and second and i cant take off for shit cause i get too nervous before green...

[punkdrum4ever1]

with more expeirence it will stop.....trust me :)

[RSXshift]

The fastest time I ran stock was 15.7, but basically I averaged around 15.9 stock, the best mod starting out would have to be cai, I ran a 15.4 with aem intake alone.

[Gecko69]

Does anyone know what the 0 - 60 time is for the base rsx........i have done some mods and i am a little faster than when i originally bought the car.....but i was just curious???????

[James S]

It's around 6.7 to 7.2 seconds to 60mph.

[fuzion_R]

yea we gotta wait for awhile for companies to make parts for us... I hate being overshadowed by the s

[MI4K20]

craig is fast....i think he will be able to hit 14s with some sticky tires

[punkdrum4ever1]

I think i can hit 14's right now.

[D Fabulous]

i think if u can't u don't know how to drive hehehe :laughing: jk man...

you should easly be able too.. the guy below klutch corso had the race header and intake only and hit 14.9 and then a 14.3 but didn't have the slips to really prove the 14.3....

D

[punkdrum4ever1]

yep......

[AcuraRacesRSX]

My car is the super duper fastest ever since I put my evergreen tree air freshner in. It took about 3 hours but well worth it. I gained like 20WHP. Ill try to get a dyno for u guys as soon as I can. ;) Hehe!

[D Fabulous]

AcuraRaces,

you have any pics of your car?

[AcuraRacesRSX]

I will have some up this weekend. So u all can see my type s exhaust swap. Now keep in mind my stock tires and hood are back on for the winter, other then that everthing else will be on.

[EVega]

I emailed crower and they said the K20A2 cams should be exspected in about a month and the K20A3 cams in about 4 months. Skunk2 has a stage 1 and stage 2 coming out for the base and i guess there coming out with a intake manifold also. I emailed them and told me they had no word on the release date at this time.

[EVega]

o ya and another thing, heard that jackson racing is releasing the supercharger for the civic si, possilbly making a bracket for the rsx?

[wackypack]

I am pretty happy with my setup. Although at this point I am stopping all tuning on my car. Im not sure If I want to continue on this NA trip or just save and purchase a F/I system. Whatever I decide by putting money aside now, this time next year I'll have around $5k put in my "car fund". Then I'll know what will be next...

[James S]

Uhm... does the Civic SI have dual runners like the Base?

[RSXshift]

no the si doesnt have dual runners

[DavidT]

The Si uses the same manifold as the Type S, just that the Si's throttle body is 10 or so milimeters smaller.

[K20Aracer]

I got a 15.6 my first time to the track running all stock. Just got some new parts on and i'm waitin to go back to the track and see what it did for me

[donmeca2020]

klutch, what did you dyno ? because when i dynoed my car with i/h/e the numbers wont so impressive

[PapiTuyo326]

skunk 2 was supposed to too... but every company always slacks when it comes to the base!!!

D
i emailed skunk 2

skunk 2 is releasing cams for the type s in a bout a month

the Si/base cams are coming out in 4 months

us k20a3 guys will never get as much attention as the a2

[sithlord]

It's around 6.7 to 7.2 seconds to 60mph.

ur kidding me. is this the 0-60time on an SS :eek: ?!
today, just for fun, i had my brother time my 0-60 time when i was taking him home and i got about 10-12 seconds for 0-60. I was using the SS at the time and stifted at only around 4850 rpm. Anyone else have their SS 0-60times?

[AcuraRSX02]

I'm a base and just got back from the track.. I ran 15.77 in the 1/4 w/ just I/H/E and stock front tires..... Let me tell u something, I could of ran 15 flat but my stock tires suck like hell...didn't have good tracking in first...

[j0hnniz]

ur kidding me. is this the 0-60time on an SS :eek: ?!
today, just for fun, i had my brother time my 0-60 time when i was taking him home and i got about 10-12 seconds for 0-60. I was using the SS at the time and stifted at only around 4850 rpm. Anyone else have their SS 0-60times?

good idea! i'm going to go time my 0-60 for my SS and my D..both times, lol.

[Acuraivtec]

Klutch what do u have in your base ? is it 5 speed or auto ?