Which full coilover system?

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I'm going to get a full coilover system soon, just not sure which I want to get. I'm not that familiar with B+G, the Tein's have a great rep but supposedly there are problems with the front arm breaking, and H&R's also have a good rep.

I'm getting these mostly for street use and I'm looking for a good system that will give me some solid cornering ability.

I'm posting a poll and any input would be appreciated.

[SHFTAT8]

I would go with the H&R setup personally. Alot of the ITR guys have the H&R springs and coilovers and seem to swear by them. My friend has them on his ITR and his car handles amazingly well. Another thing about TEIN is they are all aluminum, so if your in an area that gets snow, they will rust and not be adjustable anymore.

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Good point on the aluminum, I'm in Boston. Thanks for the info. I was steering toward the h&r's, but no-one seems to have them in stock.

[excess]

Tein makes great products but apparently that isnt the case "yet" with the integra / RSX DC5 chassis. Ive heard from more than one person that Tein and Apexi's kit are breaking steering arms over at Japan. Myabe it wil lbe better to go with the koni when they come out that are inserts and still have the factory arms. Just my opinion. But for now I would stay away from Tein until they make a fix for their kit.

[GSXR]

By the way, aluminum doesn't rust, it oxidizes. Steel will rust. I've heard the same thing about the Teins rusting and I believe it's the steels threads that are seizing. It doesn't mean you have to stay away from them, just put on a lot of anti-seize compound.

[rsx02]

ZEAL! :thumbsup:

[SHFTAT8]

Originally posted by rsx02
ZEAL! :thumbsup:

Yeah what he said would work too :p

[WCKID_TYPE_S]

How much are the H&R coilovers??

I was thinking more Ground control

[RedCelica]

GCs are just sleeves they dont include shocks.

[SHFTAT8]

I would definetly stay away from ground controls. They ride like shit, and make the car handle worse. I just took mine off this weekend.

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Originally posted by SHFTAT8


Yeah what he said would work too :p

Please feel free to add to the poll - I'm interested in everyone's opionion.

In any case, turns out you can't really get any of the full coilovers just yet in the US. Lots of places list them as in stock, but after calling you find out that they "actually won't be in until the end of February". Oh well, must be patient.

[BatmanJohnson]

Originally posted by GSXR
By the way, aluminum doesn't rust, it oxidizes. Steel will rust. I've heard the same thing about the Teins rusting and I believe it's the steels threads that are seizing. It doesn't mean you have to stay away from them, just put on a lot of anti-seize compound.

um, isn't oxidizing same as rust?
cuz when you get rust on your car
it's cuz of the metal part of it getting oxidized

[GSXR]

Yeah, I'm just being picky. Rust is the term used for steel oxidizing not aluminum. If aluminum oxidized it's aluminum oxide.

[BatmanJohnson]

yea
heh , that's wut I thought
also, if I'm not mistaken
Aluminum oxide is hard to get rid of unless you put it in an elctrode along with this agent that promotes the reduction of it
I can't remember what it's called
I think aluminum only oxidizes easily in a powder form anyways

[allenP]

Check out this place, they have a group buy going on and IS the largest distibutor on the east coast and have the best prices around. They have the Tein Supersport(SS) full system as well as just the springs.

Evolution Autosports (http://www.groupbuycenter.com/buy.asp?row_id=4817)

In order to check it out though you have to have a login name for Groupbuycenter.com.

[fdaweig]

do u guys know buddy club has coilover kits (they called it damper kits) for RSX? it's a full kits including front cambers, should be one of the best!!! AJR can import it! :thumbsup:

[d-worm]

Anyone that thinks Tein sets are aluminum should qualify the statement. I asked around and the lower end models are aluminum. i.e. the NA, and SS. The HA set is steel. I just bought one so I should know. They don't break steering arms, contradicting what I've read on this board. They do have issues with seizing, but that is remedied by coating the threads with a good anti-seizing solution. Make sure to wash down the suspension if you get snow and salt in it, and you'll be fine. Just common sense.

BTW...the H&R coilover set is not adjustable, whereas the Tein HA set is fully adjustable.

[Soulfly]

The new tein ss have a rustproof coating on them.

[tb's type-s]

I do not mean to complicate your decision but there is an auction on ebay right now for hayame coilovers for 600 shipped!
So you might want to give that a thought as well.
-Tony

[Gatekeeper]

Looks like Tein is going to win. That what I have. Tein Super Street Coilover's. $1175.00 shipped. I've never seen anyone get them cheaper.

[Sane 007]

i have a set of KWs sitting on my floor but they're not going on till spring time

[Onlya4]

I have the B+G's. Have had them for over a year. Love them. They ride well, handle great, and have a great build quality. I would suggest doing more research into these before deciding on the Tein for sure.

[simsim]

do Hayames Rust?

[Z4_LSVTEC]

Tein SS is mild steel. Tein Flex has a teflon coating. That said, every part on a coilover can be of different materials (i.e. the shocl body, the springs, the spring perch, the top mount, etc..) I don't think the H&R coilovers are out yet, are they? Also, you might want to consider Eibach coilovers. They are supposed to come out in Feb. (Not that this helps narrow down the solution). You also need to consider what you will be doing with the coilover? (AutoX, all street, etc).

[Havana Joe]

TEIN flex with EDFC is going to be my setup :thumbsup:

[Frenchy]

I think I'll be getting the TEIN SS

[simsim]

Originally posted by simsim
do Hayames Rust?

i'll ask again i guess :rolleyes:

[cal2amel]

How much is H&R coilover????and how much????any links???

[RSXTACY61]

how does aluminum rust?? the chemical properties of aluminum will not allow for rust.. rust can only physically occur on steel or iron? do you mean corrode or something?



I would go with the H&R setup personally. Alot of the ITR guys have the H&R springs and coilovers and seem to swear by them. My friend has them on his ITR and his car handles amazingly well. Another thing about TEIN is they are all aluminum, so if your in an area that gets snow, they will rust and not be adjustable anymore.

[NeonDevil]

You could always think about mugen, they're supposed to be OEM quality. Only downside is you can't adjust them

[ayosaint]

how do you feel about apex'i n1 pro coilovers?

[Racinghart]

TEIN flex with EDFC is going to be my setup :thumbsup:

Me too.

[aznbeayst]

tein flex is the shit!!!! :)

[jphesterly]

what about jic?

[Special Ed]

tein flex is the shit!!!! :)
Yo off topic: nice pic's of ur ride. Just need to tighten up that engine bay an lose those plastic wire covers :nervous: . Other then that :thumbsup:

On topic: I am glad u posted this because i am about to purchase a new susp. kit for my RSX. I do not know which one to get. Someone posted a good review on the Tanabe kit. I am lookin into that right now.

[jphesterly]

i just got some tein Super streets, i hope they are as good as everyone makes them out to be. wooooo hoo

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Damn, this poll needs to be updated. Back when I posted it the three systems I listed were pretty much it. There are a lot more options out there now. Even if you choose Tein you've got several choices...

[nycRSXnyc]

Looks like Tein is going to win. That what I have. Tein Super Street Coilover's. $1175.00 shipped. I've never seen anyone get them cheaper.


where'd u order them from? thats a good price

[nycRSXnyc]

???

[may]

I would go with the H&R setup personally. Alot of the ITR guys have the H&R springs and coilovers and seem to swear by them. My friend has them on his ITR and his car handles amazingly well. Another thing about TEIN is they are all aluminum, so if your in an area that gets snow, they will rust and not be adjustable anymore.



oh give me a break..you just clean the threads with a steel brush and if you apply some theflon you wont have any problems..you only need about 8 pounds of tq to tighten the locking ring it's only normal that it will be hard to unlock them if you tighten them like it was a head bolt!all full coilover kit's need to be inspected from time to time..all you need to do is clean the threads like any other coilover before you adjust it..you will damage the threads if you don't clean the dirt from the threads..i put a little anti seize between the locking rings and it's never hard to unlock the rings..


i have tein ss and there great :drink: :bow:

[ntwillie1]

I have tein ss on my car since July of 03, no problems to report, ride quality is good, handling is good. as far as maintenance, since i like detailing so much, i just take the wheels off once in a while and clean em. i go at it with a brush, soap, and hose and so far not a sign of rust/oxidation. i then use a polish/chrome/steel cleaner and sray em down and they shine like new. like all things in life, if you want them to last, you gotta take care of em. I got mine for $1250 Shipped if that helps. good luck.

[Da808FuChan]

Jus took off my tein ss, was ok i guess. Jus put in apex n1 type v :thumbsup:

[tb's type-s]

i'll ask again i guess :rolleyes:

No, I believe they are made out of stainless steel. There was a thread a while back that showed some rust on them but it must have been something else which is quite possible due to the fact that they were off a salvaged car.
-Tony

[d2coupe]

im in a spot right now where im looking at a used set of jic majic with little miles on them or a set of teins for 1200

im not really sure what to do. i need height adustability and dampining

[coldrsx]

progress coilovers

[Boosted_dc5]

im all for JIC. Mine work great. No noises...stiff ride....no rust.

[TidaLXWaVe]

tein flex is the shit i have it with the edfc controller.. godamn the car can handle corners well now .. haha its a big difference from 16 and 0 hahahaha.. can't wait to order the progress sways and take it to the track and keep up with the type r

[zeroryde]

do u guys know buddy club has coilover kits (they called it damper kits) for RSX? it's a full kits including front cambers, should be one of the best!!! AJR can import it! :thumbsup:


Buddy Club is among the best for our car, from what I heard with amazing dampening rates for great handling... the only thing I think you'd need to get in addition to these are the front camber plates for the top of the coilover... otherwise I really wish I got these instead of my JIC's...

[p220]

progress coilovers


i think cold and i are the only progress groupies so far.

[Cintex]

Hey guys, i need a quick opinion...

Should I go with the Progress Coilovers or the Tanabe Sustec SS Type-II coilovers?

[p220]

i have nothing negative about the progress except what i've stated before. u can't beat the price.

[rsxc]

I'll give another vote for progress coilovers. Put them on over the weekend, comfortable ride even when its slammed. Well worth the money.

[xtreme416]

How about the HKS Hipermax? They're supposed to be good, but pricey. Another great option is the Tanabe Sustec Pro. Any thoughts on these?

[Cintex]

Yes, Id love to hear about the Tanabe Sustec Pro SS system, since I plan on possible purchasing these :)

[xtreme416]

I haven't heard of D2...who makes it?

[Rookie]

Tein... So much $$$ though.

[rol_X]

I'm deciding on either Hayame or Tanabe... I need more input on them, anyone? :dontknow:

[lanman2000]

i think cold and i are the only progress groupies so far.


hey i am a major progress groupie too... i got the full coilover setup and the front and rear sways... my car hugs tight...

[RoadRunner Type S]

Is is really worth getting the Tein Flex w/edfc coilovers or should I save some money and get the SS?

[zeroryde]

do u guys know buddy club has coilover kits (they called it damper kits) for RSX? it's a full kits including front cambers, should be one of the best!!! AJR can import it! :thumbsup:


they are, btw tein's aren't aluminum, and only the Flex has a coating on them to "prevent" rust, the others require WD40 to protect it from the elements... JIC's are crap.. I have them and had them serviced twice!!! and now, one of them blew and it's leaking oil all over... I'm so pissed... :jigglemad

I'm getting buddy clubs next, 10K ft, 16K rear :D

[meez]

im running 450 front and 650 rear! YA!

[lanman2000]

Is is really worth getting the Tein Flex w/edfc coilovers or should I save some money and get the SS?


save a LOT of money and just get the Hayame full coilovers. They are the best bang for the buck.

[RoadRunner Type S]

save a LOT of money and just get the Hayame full coilovers. They are the best bang for the buck.
...are they adjustable?

[lanman2000]

ride height yes... not sure about dampening...

[RoadRunner Type S]

thanx... I'm going to do some research on them.

[LanceM]

i dont like the tein design.

B+G hands down for daily driving. H&R for a stiffer one. then tein

Lance

[tb's type-s]

thanx... I'm going to do some research on them.
The hayame's are terrible...Take it from someone who went through 2 sets and has had to deal with that POS company.
-Tony

[RoadRunner Type S]

The hayame's are terrible...Take it from someone who went through 2 sets and has had to deal with that POS company.
-Tony
This thread is very old. I went with the Tein SS-P with EDFC setup.

[NarrlyRSX]

tein is always a solid setup~ what about JIC or HKS hipermax coilovers?

[ArcticBlueDc5]

I got some TEIN FLEXS on the way to my house i will update after its on

[rsxer63]

I run the Tein ss/p w/EDFC. nice ride.

[Big Cam]

this isn't even a competition.

[DavidIX]

B+G!!!!!!!.....Maybe people should look into this a little more.

[forcefedRSX]

JIC is the SHiiiiiiiit

[Mo]

this thread is from 02 lol

[RoadRunner Type S]

I was laughing at that earlier.

[yeahi]

wtf diggin up old ass threads?

top secret coils or the zeal function X

[LuvRSX]

Mugen

[rsxdude]

I personally have driven on all three. I've had the tein ss-p, B+G S3, and now the H&R. In terms of handling, it would be like this:

1. H&R coilover
2. Tein SS
3. B+G


As for comfort, it goes as follows:

1. B+G
2.Tein SS
3. H&R ( because of no dampening )

I have the H&R coilovers now and I find it's the best handling out of the bunch. Now if you factor in Tein flex with custom spring rates, then it's hands down tein. But if you meant the SS then it's an ok design. I personally like these in this order:

1. B+G - all around coilover. Autoadjustable dampening. Sturdy as hell.
2. H&R - Handles the best so far to me. Build is excellent. Only reason it was second is
because of dampening adjustability.
3. Tein SS - Too many clanks. The rear spring rate seemed too low for the rsx.
Adjustable dampening is awesome. Pillowballs make steering real smooth.

This is just my opinion. If i had to change again, I'd try out the HKS Hipermax RS.

[ohyeahitskham]

tanabe's :thumbsup:

[notorious rsx]

tein owns all

[noodleman]

i like hks hypermax 2....very nice...but they are very low...even set to the highest, it's atleast 1 1/2 inch drop

[SwingR]

H&R is not that bad, My friend is using it

[RsX???]

now that you guys brought this up, which is the better one to go for, i dont know how many different teins there are but which one would you get teins or h&r?

[RoadRunner Type S]

now that you guys brought this up, which is the better one to go for, i dont know how many different teins there are but which one would you get teins or h&r?
Go with Tein SS-P or Flex with the EDFC.:thumbsup:

[na_rsx]

teins for t3h win

[Synapxe]

Progress. Great coilover!

[silver comet]

if i could redo mine id to TEIN FLEX.

[meez]

apexi N1 Type V

[RsxFan123]

Megan anyone??

[ImpactSilverEP3]

my vote goes to Progress

[infmethodz]

back from the dead...lol

[RoadRunner Type S]

back from the dead...lol
ehhh... it never really went dead. Just stale for a month or two. lol

[archull]

I say go with either the Megan coilovers or the BuddyClub coilover. I personally have the B&Gs, they ride great but are a little too soft in the cornering at times and don't have adjustable dampening. Tein are just over hyped and everyone I know who has owned them has sold them to get someething else because they hated them. The H&R handle great, but they are rough riding and don't have dampening controls. I say just get the Megans, they are a great all around coilover that you can set soft for the hyw and set stiff for the track with just a few clicks of the adjustment knob plus they are pretty cheap, I know people who have bought them new for about $850.

[caeavesRSX-S]

Going from MUGEN SS to TEIN SS sometime this month, once I get a warm day to install.

[wyipshdc5]

HKS hiperMAx Pro

[DOHCtor]

HKS hiperMAx Pro
gEt BuDdY ClUb rSd

[cammyman1]

i've always had teins but i'm not to thrilled with them on my rsx.
edit: i should have said i'm not too thrilled with tein's ss

[PUREVIL]

If i didnt go with me Megans, my second choice would have been B+G.

[LickyMYwalker]

tein ftw!

[na_rsx]

fuck the rest, teins FTW

[crazy-yogi]

Tein Flex w/ EDFC

[PUREVIL]

B+G's

[mmmmshinramen]

holllllllllly old thread

[TypeRDC5]

Yea i was noticing the same thing.. this thread it MAD old!!

[zerojames]

Yeah it's only old, I have H&R and so far they alright.

[funkyridah]

Try the Tanabe coilovers..they've been holding up now for a couple of years on my ride...

[Game]

4 year old thread. :eek:

[merlin2111]

go with jic's they rock

[youn2k]

look at other brands, owneeddddd!!!! lol

[Game]

Owned? you brought back a four year old thread.

Teins would not own another coilover poll like this with the N+ and Megans around...

[sYkBlUeTyPe-S]

OK I have a question..which full coil-over system offers the lowest drop...???

[clay7160]

i think the coilover king is a friend of mine, rsxdude from crsx

1st had progress springs then the coilover revolution began, started with, tein ss, b&g, then h&r, megan racing, now Buddy Club.... i will try to get him to chime in...

[AzNGR81]

...teins

[Blazed2005]

I just purchased Tein Flex With EDFC wouldnt have it any other way...cant wait to drop it like its hooot!!

[jared23489]

buddy club n+ ftw...................

[C02SpitFire]

Tein Flex with EDFC or Buddy Club N+:thumbsup:

[not_an_si]

Tein Ftw!

[not_an_si]

but i did hear that they could break

[NBP RSX-S]

Buddy Club!!! http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o147/jman2281/100_02221.jpg

[Axix23]

ummm, wheres Buddy Club N+ at?

[spec]

Apexi Type V coilovers for me

[The Arabic]

Dude.. This thread has been opened a while now, and i am not about to go looking through all of the pages, did you end up getting coilovers?!

[marroquin57]

Anybody riding on HKS coiloverS?

[leeway]

I have tein ss on my car since July of 03, no problems to report, ride quality is good, handling is good. as far as maintenance, since i like detailing so much, i just take the wheels off once in a while and clean em. i go at it with a brush, soap, and hose and so far not a sign of rust/oxidation. i then use a polish/chrome/steel cleaner and sray em down and they shine like new. like all things in life, if you want them to last, you gotta take care of em. I got mine for $1250 Shipped if that helps. good luck.

i have the tein ss since 05 , everything is good. good handling.

[runnin9z]

Holly 2002

[findingeverland]

Tein Ftw

[ALPHAKENNYONE]

so if i wanted to do autocross and other road course racing and still have a nice ride on the street which coilovers do you recommend.....im soooo confused with all the choices available:dontknow:

[SoloTypeS]

i have megan racing the track models and they are perfect for me

[SoCalSquadDC5]

B&G's FTW but really hard to find! unless you buy them NEW

[SideWinder]

Holy accent thread

Buddy Club RSDs FTW

[kaynam24]

no man

[dc2r_2002]

TEIN N1 with MUGEN lower bracket

[Gunn79]

My car when imported came with fixed rate height adjustable Bilstein coilovers, with rediculously stiff springs. They were fun for a while, but the stiffness started to get on my nerves after a while(very poor road surfaces where I live) There were JDM Bilsteins, made under licence by Ennepetal;

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e280/Gunn-79/My%20DC5/BILSTEIN%20COILOVERS/BILSTEINS.jpg

So after a while I changed to a set of AST coilovers. These are 12 click adjustable, with inverted front dampers, and a much more friendly rate road spring.

http://images.fotopic.net/ynxdog.jpg

The quality of the AST's is superb, very happy with my purchase.

[t.harmz]

tanabe ftmfw

[20secA3]

what about crsx's progressives?

[kidcanada]

I just ordered my Progress coilovers can't wait. I was deciding between the Progress and Tanabe as well. Decided that the wait was worth getting the Progress.

[integrasi]

i would go w/ tein because of drivability in city and the name proves it all

[speedwalker]

helped to install a set of Tanabe pro-five's on my friends rsx and it rides pretty well. no noise like i have heard from tein in other forums or people worried about suspension noise. i didn't drive his car but in passenger seat i don't feel like i'm going to have kidney problems. heard that my friend takes his car to the track now and absolutely loves his ssp.

[503servicetempdown]

my vote goes to progress coilovers, im very impressed with the adjustability and the ride quality

[Exsca]

Tein SS FTW

[flyingfish]

if you're DDing this, i'd go with A-spec coilovers. everything else is gonna be really really tight, and clunky over bumps. even Mugen SS is pretty stiff. A-spec is too, but it's an OEM (kind of) option...

[jgnlz87]

can someone update this coilover poll???