Falken ZE-512 or Falken ST-115

[Adidasx4L]

My 2004 Type-S is a daily driver, I drive 200-250 miles a week. Also I drag race at the track 3-5 times a year.

I want to keep the stock tires dimensions 205/55/16

Both tires have the same Specifications:

Treadwear: 360
Traction: A
Temperature: A
Speed Rating: VR

But different load ratings:

Ziex ZE-512 - 91
ST-115 - 94 (higher load capacity than the Ziex ZE-512)

The infomation above is from http://www.discounttiredirect.com


My question is what tire would be best for me?

Thanks
Keith

[rezrsx]

My 2004 Type-S is a daily driver, I drive 200-250 miles a week. Also I drag race at the track 3-5 times a year.

I want to keep the stock tires dimensions 205/55/16

Both tires have the same Specifications:

Treadwear: 360
Traction: A
Temperature: A
Speed Rating: VR

But different load ratings:

Ziex ZE-512 - 91
ST-115 - 94 (higher load capacity than the Ziex ZE-512)

The infomation above is from http://www.discounttiredirect.com


My question is what tire would be best for me?

Thanks
Keith

Go with with 512's. It's a great all year round tire. In fact I've road raced my RSX at Summit Point with 512's on I thought for the money they did great.

[krnb0iek]

I'm also stuck in between these 2 tires. I'm kind of leaning towards the st-115 because i heard they are quiet.

Bump for some answers with pro's/con's!

[HurriSkiest]

I just got an 05 Type - S, I would like to know what would be the best tires for my car, I have Snow tires now. So I just like for a Ultra High Performance Tire. I was looking at Falken Tires, But im not sure If you could help me out that would be great Im all so getting rims in the summer thinkin about 18's.

Thank,
HurriSkiest (Mike)

[hjteq]

:thumbsup: I am about to buy a set of tires and I would also like to know. Thanks

[SpoonEM2]

what about FK-451 compare to ST-115......any good?
FK-451
Treadwear: 280
http://www.falkentire.com/images/IMGtire_451_angle.jpg

ST-115
Treadwear: 360
http://www.falkentire.com/images/IMGtire_115_angle.jpg

[krnb0iek]

i believe the fk-451 are summer tires and the st-115 are all season.

[DC5type_S]

Just replaced my tires today. I went with ST115's. Had the RT115s before.

[SpoonEM2]

Just replaced my tires today. I went with ST115's. Had the RT115s before.

if u dont minds, how much you paid for the st-115....what size?
tks

[kevjam79]

Are you ever going to drive in snow? If not, get the ST-115s. I was one of the first on the board to get these and continue to run them as summer tires. They are quiet and perform very well in the rain and at an auto-x. For the price you can't beat them. I have them wrapped around ATS Comp Lites (15.5 lbs) 17"x7.5" w/ the ST-115s in 225-45-17. They make for a great combination especially matched with the A-Spec suspension and Type-R - 22mm rear sway.

Good luck.

Kevin

[krnb0iek]

which is better for daily driving? the ST-115 or ZE-512?

and are the ST-115's noticeably quieter than the ZE-512's?

[SpooN-FED]

I just bought the 512's for my parents accord and will install it this weekend so i'll let you guys know how it drives. For my Type S, I use toyo T1R's for the summer...and they are great I highly recommend them, but at the expensive of a hefty pricetag.


I just got an 05 Type - S, I would like to know what would be the best tires for my car, I have Snow tires now. So I just like for a Ultra High Performance Tire. I was looking at Falken Tires, But im not sure If you could help me out that would be great Im all so getting rims in the summer thinkin about 18's.

Thank,
HurriSkiest (Mike)

[kevjam79]

They are noticeably quieter than any other high performance tire I have run or road in. Most performance tires start out quiet but over time as the tread pattern wears the tread blocks begin to talk. With the ST-115s, I have not experienced an increase in volume that is noticeable over the usage of the tires. For daily driving you will get better traction with the ST-115 because of the tread design and block size. It is designed for dry and wet traction, absolutely no snow. The 512s are designed as an all-season and can handle most weather conditions (remember to never out drive your tires).

[ShoDaoGUN]

i have a set of 225/50/16 st 115s sitting in my room ready for me to put on my stockies. do you think they're quieter than stock tires kevjam?

[cammyman1]

i'm running the st-115s down here in fl. and i'm very pleased with the performance. they are great in the rain and their quiet.

[rix 05 type-s]

i'm running the st-115s down here in fl. and i'm very pleased with the performance. they are great in the rain and their quiet.
:iamwiths: me too!:thumbsup:

[DC5type_S]

if u dont minds, how much you paid for the st-115....what size?
tks

i paid 100 each that includes mounting and balancing

[DC5type_S]

i have a set of 225/50/16 st 115s sitting in my room ready for me to put on my stockies. do you think they're quieter than stock tires kevjam?

definitely quiter than stock. stocks are loud on the freeway imo.

[RsxFan123]

i have the Falken ZE-512 on some 18s... from what ive heard from the ST-115, and the ones that i have right now... u cant go wrong w/ either.... and i have no complaints about my ZE.... i think they are really good for the price.... Personally, i think its gonna come down to which thread u like most...:wavey:

[Nickeleye]

I'm curious about two things:

1. With either tire, how do they compare/contrast noise-wise to the stock tires?

2. Is there any noticable difference performance with the new tires over stock?

Right now I've got stock suspension on my '06 S, but plan to add a rear sway bar and get new shocks & springs in the future. I'm in southern California so I don't have to really worry about snow and rain is fairly limited, although when it does rain I can tell the stock tires lose a significant amount of grip. Although I don't drive on wet roads often, I still want to be sure I have traction when I do have to drive them. So I can't tell if the all season tires are what I should look into or if the summer tires would also be fine.

**EDIT**
I was just on the discount tire website and did a search for the tires that would fit the stock 17" wheels and the Falkens didn't come up even though they have the tires on the site.

[element_dc5]

i have the falken ziex 512s. good all season tires

firm/stiff feel(thick sidewalls), quiet....much better than the stock michelins

[krnb0iek]

i have the falken ziex 512s. good all season tires

firm/stiff feel(thick sidewalls), quiet....much better than the stock michelins

so the 512s are quieter than stock, but not as quiet as the ST-115s right?

[element_dc5]

so the 512s are quieter than stock, but not as quiet as the ST-115s right?

the st-115s are quieter

[Adidasx4L]

They are noticeably quieter than any other high performance tire I have run or road in. Most performance tires start out quiet but over time as the tread pattern wears the tread blocks begin to talk. With the ST-115s, I have not experienced an increase in volume that is noticeable over the usage of the tires. For daily driving you will get better traction with the ST-115 because of the tread design and block size. It is designed for dry and wet traction, absolutely no snow. The 512s are designed as an all-season and can handle most weather conditions (remember to never out drive your tires).

Thanks for the feedback kevjam79. I am not going to be driving in the snow. Also I need as much traction for mostly daily driving and for the track. So the ST-115s should be the ones for me.

Thanks
Keith

[kevjam79]

i have a set of 225/50/16 st 115s sitting in my room ready for me to put on my stockies. do you think they're quieter than stock tires kevjam?

As others have said, they are definitely quieter.

Thanks for the feedback kevjam79. I am not going to be driving in the snow. Also I need as much traction for mostly daily driving and for the track. So the ST-115s should be the ones for me.

Thanks
Keith

Your welcome. I enjoying giving advice when the person asking is receptive. Most folks on here never respond once advice is given. Good luck in your purchase.

Also, I think these are some of the best performing tires in the rain.

Kevin

[o6dc5S 3.25.05<3]

st115. i had 225/45/17s on my old car and they performed real well. real quiet too. i really loved them. plus they have a lot of grip in rain (the 2 huge grooves in the pattern) they also stick to the pavment during dry weahter too. they dont preform as well as the rt215s in dry, but these can be on all year round also. i say get the st115. spend the extra hundred bucks or so to get them. you wont regret it. good luck :]

[jjm004]

i believe the fk-451 are summer tires and the st-115 are all season.


neither of those tires are all season tires.

i just got the st-115 but havent mounted them yet.

[Nickeleye]

These tires will fit on the stock 17" Type S wheels, right?

[aznkukuboi]

I have Falken ZE 512's on my other car.

Yes they are quiet, but when I feel the tires, they feel all soft as if it has low treadwear. I'm afraid they'll be gone in 20k miles. lol

[Adidasx4L]

As others have said, they are definitely quieter.



Your welcome. I enjoying giving advice when the person asking is receptive. Most folks on here never respond once advice is given. Good luck in your purchase.

Also, I think these are some of the best performing tires in the rain.

Kevin

Perfect it rains like crazy in California.

Thanks
Keith

[Adidasx4L]

I have Falken ZE 512's on my other car.

Yes they are quiet, but when I feel the tires, they feel all soft as if it has low treadwear. I'm afraid they'll be gone in 20k miles. lol


Treadwear #'s: "The higher the number, the longer you can expect the tread to last."

That's what http://auto.howstuffworks.com/tire2.htm says.

Only 20k miles for the Falken ZE 512's (Treadwear 360)? The stock tires have a Treadwear of 300.

You must be running your tires really hard then?

Both the ZE 512's and ST-115's have the same Treadwear of 360. I would think they would last a little bit longer than the stock tires (Treadwear 300).

FYI: I have 25K miles on the stock tires (Daily driving and drag racing at the track). The stock tires should last me until 30K miles. Then the ST-115's will be on.

Thanks
Keith

[clay7160]

i have had both, and continue to sell both......i prefer to sell falken over any other, due to price and overall quality......st115 are so versitile in rain, at the track and are the most quiet tires i have ever ridden on......and 512's are not far off.....i find the 512'd ride a little smoother (softer sidewall maybe).....and handling is a little better, but wear faster (i know they have the same treadwear rating), and tire for tire they are a little cheaper

[ShoDaoGUN]

great feedback guys :thumbsup: i think i made the right choice with the st 115s.

[apettey]

115's are extremely quiet. i had them on my old rims untill i got in a wreck and ruined the wheels and tires. i thought my car needed insulation untill i put those suckers on. they also hold the road well, but if your just looking for a tire better than the stock micheline...i dont think theres a tire out there with more road noise and slip on the road as bad as the michelines do...but if its between the 512's and 115's...go for the 115's

[hjteq]

I can't find anything that says that the ST 115's are all season tires I mean can those run on snow?

[kevjam79]

As stated before, they are not all-season and are not recommend on snow.

[krnb0iek]

yea that was my mistake. i was getting confused with the 512's. so its the 512s that are all season, not the ST-115s.

[joriz RSX]

how's the sidewall on the ST-115? stiffer than the ziex 512?

[superric10]

I would go with reliability man..

[HurriSkiest]

I just bought the 512's for my parents accord and will install it this weekend so i'll let you guys know how it drives. For my Type S, I use toyo T1R's for the summer...and they are great I highly recommend them, but at the expensive of a hefty pricetag.
Hey SpooN-FED,
I was wondering how much were the Toyo T1R's I was looking at them and they cool very nice. cuz the rim's I picked out are: Giovanna Anzio 18X7.5
so Im think of getting 225/40ZR18. what do thing?

[Adidasx4L]

I did not get my new tires yet. I am still debating on which tire to get.

I did some research and found out that (1) Falken ZE-512 tire weight 4 Lbs. less than (1) Falken ST-115 tire.

Both tires weights:

Falken Ziex Ze 512
20.5Lbs.
205/55/16

Falken Azenis St115
24.5Lbs.
205/55/16

I have read and been told that the heavier the tire; the more power and time will be needed to get them moving from a stop.

My question is if I do get the Falken ST-115 will my quarter mile time be slower?

Keep in mind that (4) Falken ST-115 tires weight 16 Lbs. more than the (4) Falken ZE-512 tires.

Thanks
Keith

[Speeddemon69]

I did not get my new tires yet. I am still debating on which tire to get.

I did some research and found out that (1) Falken ZE-512 tire weight 4 Lbs. less than (1) Falken ST-115 tire.

Both tires weights:

Falken Ziex Ze 512
20.5Lbs.
205/55/16

Falken Azenis St115
24.5Lbs.
205/55/16

I have read and been told that the heavier the tire; the more power and time will be needed to get them moving from a stop.

My question is if I do get the Falken ST-115 will my quarter mile time be slower?

Keep in mind that (4) Falken ST-115 tires weight 16 Lbs. more than the (4) Falken ZE-512 tires.

Thanks
Keith

hmm that's some good reasearch you did there! I was going to look for the weights between the two since I'm also stuck between the two tires, but you saved me from doing it!

How much does the stock tires weigh compared the two falkens listed in this thread?

I also wonder how much noise difference there is between both falken tires?

[clay7160]

the difference in weight will be noticed....it wont be tremendous...but if you would run two different setups back to back...you would feel it......2nd question is yes, one is quieter..... the st 115 tires....the quietest i have ever used, i have used everything from pirelli, bf goodrich, goodyear, dunlap, yokohama.....i have tried them all.....(over 30 sets of wheels and tires from low riders to imports...to suv's....

[Adidasx4L]

hmm that's some good reasearch you did there! I was going to look for the weights between the two since I'm also stuck between the two tires, but you saved me from doing it!

How much does the stock tires weigh compared the two falkens listed in this thread?

I also wonder how much noise difference there is between both falken tires?

Stock tire weight:

I have read that the stock tire is 22 Lbs.

Keith

[Adidasx4L]

the difference in weight will be noticed....it wont be tremendous...but if you would run two different setups back to back...you would feel it......2nd question is yes, one is quieter..... the st 115 tires....the quietest i have ever used, i have used everything from pirelli, bf goodrich, goodyear, dunlap, yokohama.....i have tried them all.....(over 30 sets of wheels and tires from low riders to imports...to suv's....

So you mean the Falken ST-115 will make my quarter mile a little bit slower?
Compared to the Falken ZE-512?

Thanks
Keith

[BryanP]

I previously had ST-115s mounted on the car until it went bald so I got myself a set of ZE-512s and mounted it on today.

I must say they are VERY comfortable tires to ride on. The comfort level is along the lines of the ST-115 (I personally feel that the ZE-512 are a bit more comfy to ride on).

In terms of noise, even when the tread level was low on the ST-115s, it was still quieter in than ZE-512s. However, the noise level in general is very low. It's not annoying in anyway and gives a good, low-noise ride.

In terms of handling, the ZE-512s stick pretty well. It's not as sticky as the ST-115s which isn't surprising, but it still gets the job done for it's particular level of function.

Weight is somewhat noticable. The ZE-512s are a little more lighter than the ST-115s.

I can't guage how long these tires will last in comparison to the ST-115s based on personal experience (and for the most part, just daily driving), but I must say, they both have their pros and cons that equally balance out.

Thus in conclusion, going with either tires will yield to a great experience. The point is you can't go wrong when you decide between these two.

[Adidasx4L]

I previously had ST-115s mounted on the car until it went bald so I got myself a set of ZE-512s and mounted it on today.

I must say they are VERY comfortable tires to ride on. The comfort level is along the lines of the ST-115 (I personally feel that the ZE-512 are a bit more comfy to ride on).

In terms of noise, even when the tread level was low on the ST-115s, it was still quieter in than ZE-512s. However, the noise level in general is very low. It's not annoying in anyway and gives a good, low-noise ride.

In terms of handling, the ZE-512s stick pretty well. It's not as sticky as the ST-115s which isn't surprising, but it still gets the job done for it's particular level of function.

Weight is somewhat noticable. The ZE-512s are a little more lighter than the ST-115s.

I can't guage how long these tires will last in comparison to the ST-115s based on personal experience (and for the most part, just daily driving), but I must say, they both have their pros and cons that equally balance out.

Thus in conclusion, going with either tires will yield to a great experience. The point is you can't go wrong when you decide between these two.

I changed my mind, I will go with the ZE-512s.

Thanks
Keith

[LickyMYwalker]

would the grip of the st115 make up for the weight of it though? thats all i was wondering. like if you get better grip with the 115 but the 512 weighs less and doesnt grip as well then which one would u have a faster quarter mile with? i have the 512's right now and i love mine.

[cvillersxs]

I say skip them both and go Avon Tech M550 A/S if you want all season with great wet performance.

If I had to choose one I'd go with the ST-115s though, they're nice and quiet.

[Adidasx4L]

would the grip of the st115 make up for the weight of it though? thats all i was wondering. like if you get better grip with the 115 but the 512 weighs less and doesnt grip as well then which one would u have a faster quarter mile with? i have the 512's right now and i love mine.

Yes, I would like to know as well.

Keith

[phattony3333]

Where and how cheap can you get the 512's and 115's for? Ive searched discounttire/discounttiredirect. I dont know anywhere else..

Adididas..When do you plan on buyin these tires?

[Adidasx4L]

Where and how cheap can you get the 512's and 115's for? Ive searched discounttire/discounttiredirect. I dont know anywhere else..

Adididas..When do you plan on buyin these tires?

I am going to get them at discounttiredirect.

I will get them after Summer Season is over.

[OboMbiN-BiN-RoBiN]

The ST115 is an extremely quiet setup and they provide for a nice ride, but I can't really say much more than that. After doing endless research and seeing that the last post on this tire was more than a year ago, I wish I had went with something else. At $117 each, I was expecting a little more performance-wise. These tires are more of an all-season type imo. Furthermore, I can't tell a big difference from my old stockies except that they're really really "quiet," but that was never a concern. Guess once winter comes around I appreciate them more.

[Nate2003]

reviving old thread..:coffee:

I'm wanting to get some new tires before winter comes here. You guys had good experience with the Falken Ziex ZE-512s? I'm thinking about replacing my Hankook k106s with these since they are also all season. Discount Tire has them for $105 in my size.
I gotta say though the Hankooks have lasted, I've got like 44k miles on them and still not bald.

[imbest123]

reviving old thread..:coffee:

I'm wanting to get some new tires before winter comes here. You guys had good experience with the Falken Ziex ZE-512s? I'm thinking about replacing my Hankook k106s with these since they are also all season. Discount Tire has them for $105 in my size.
I gotta say though the Hankooks have lasted, I've got like 44k miles on them and still not bald.

they are replaced by the 912s and discount tire will price match with any online price + shipping.

[Nate2003]

they are replaced by the 912s and discount tire will price match with any online price + shipping.

I changed my mind recently. Going by Discount Tire's place after work and putting money down for some BF Goodrich g-force super sport a/s to be ordered.

[imbest123]

I changed my mind recently. Going by Discount Tire's place after work and putting money down for some BF Goodrich g-force super sport a/s to be ordered.

idk how their all season are but i hated their g force super sport summer tires. they gripped well but was the most uncomfortable ride ever. sometimes i thought my car just fell off a 10 story building after hitting a pothole.

[Nate2003]

idk how their all season are but i hated their g force super sport summer tires. they gripped well but was the most uncomfortable ride ever. sometimes i thought my car just fell off a 10 story building after hitting a pothole.

guess it's a gamble just about no matter what you get, thanks for the info btw,

Seems like the main thing I hear about these Falken's is how quick they wear out.

ugg you got me second guessing myself man lol.. just looked at consumer reports and the 912 is like one of the best UHP all season tires rated but does show poor tread life as well

[My06_types]

I am planning on getting a new pair of snow tires and running my rt-615s on my new wheels that i will get after winter. I would not recommend the rt-615s though unless you are doing alot of road coarses because it has extremely soft rubber. I have had these tires for about 5 months and i took my wheels off and there are actual little rocks stuck up inside the rubber. I didnt know that they were that soft when i got them and was just mainly looking for good summer/drag street tires but guess the best way to find out is to test it out.

Tires b4 that were parada spec2's and i thought they did good for summer tires but absolutely horrible in the rain but good besides that.

I am using my stockies now just for snow wheels so what would be the best tires for mainly snow tires?

Sorry for the some what hijack