RSX-S vs Eclipse GS-T/GSX

[Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust]

what traps higher stock for stock on average

i say the rsx and gotboost98 says the eclipses

[Gotboost98]

what traps higher stock for stock on average

i say the rsx and gotboost98 says the eclipses

who said on average I ment period :rotfl: ........your not even taking in account for shitty drivers in the dsm crowd. I told you same run as me he ran a 14.8@97mph stock backed with a 14.8@95mph. IBRIDESOUTHSEESTHIS

[Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust]

they trap at like 91 dude


416 14.885@87.790 9.442@72.330 1.932 JVE 91 Eclipse GSX Stock
422 14.928@97.380 9.837@75.330 2.490 HOOKSH 99 Eclipse GST Stock
423 14.948@91.220 9.595@72.520 2.200 BlackTSI 95 Talon TSi AWD Stock
425 14.981@90.520 9.534@71.470 2.091 heineken 97 Eclipse GSX
426 14.983@93.610 9.600@74.600 2.276 m_eclipse_96 96 Eclipse GST Stock
427 14.985@92.480 9.696@72.710 2.332 autoxr37 97 Eclipse GST Stock
433 15.075@87.210 9.528@71.420 1.965 Kinetik_tsi 90 Talon TSi AWD Stock
439 15.241@88.310 9.737@70.730 2.088 Sartuche24 95 Talon TSi AWD Stock
442 15.279@90.86 9.876@72 2.288 Mirage1 98 Eclipse GSX


i took out the ones w/o stock turbos

[Gotboost98]

they trap at like 91 dude

maybe for a shit ass driver :p

[cheechxu]

actually according to slushbox's list only the best drivers have trapped 91. The others are trapping like 88...

[sdiddy]

In my GST, I trapped 90-91 stock...

It was a 1997

EDIT: I wasn't that good of a driver. Still though, I can't see trapping 97mph in a stock one with just a driver improvement...

[Gotboost98]

actually according to slushbox's list only the best drivers have trapped 91. The others are trapping like 88...

yeah an thats ONE list of probably very average drivers. I have seen a few bone stock dsm an 7 bolt eclipses run these14.8s from 94mph to 97mph trap times here. im speaking from what ive seen not read on a forum :run:

[cheechxu]

that's highly possible.

but there are also some freak cases of quick RSX runs, like hitting 14.6 stock. Also isn't there a thread about hitting like 14.2 with just a CAI?

[Gotboost98]

that's highly possible.

but there are also some freak cases of quick RSX runs, like hitting 14.6 stock. Also isn't there a thread about hitting like 14.2 with just a CAI?

im one of those freak cases. 14.7@96mph bone stock in a 04 Rsx S . That eclipse time I was talking about in my first post in this tread ran that time right next to me:D But mine dynoed z1 power. 181whp bone stock woot

[smoresrock]

click this. (http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=385928)

'nuff said.

EDIT: lol, thought this was about which car would win... i still think rsx would trap higher. we have a nice final drive ratio and that 6th gear is killer.

[PsykotiK]

specify the year RSX since the change in gearing

[ihatepotholes]

same... driver's race between GS-T and rsx. i would think GSX would take the 1/4.
trap speed should be around the same.

[Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust]

specify the year RSX since the change in gearing

doesnt matter they all trap over 91

and im not arguing who would win here...just about trap speeds

cuz ben was all like FI cars always trap higher then NA cars w/ comparable hp(we were debating 03-04 cobra vs ls2 gto which he happens to be right about...im assuming the cobra is underated a bit)

[Danish]

RSX should trap higher IMO

[Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust]

none of them are even close dude...give it up

[Gotboost98]

doesnt matter they all trap over 91

and im not arguing who would win here...just about trap speeds

cuz ben was all like FI cars always trap higher then NA cars w/ comparable hp(we were debating 03-04 cobra vs ls2 gto which he happens to be right about...im assuming the cobra is underated a bit)

you quote people wrong for shit david.:p I said should generally if the cars are equal or with in a hair of each other in power. Fi has the edge. That comment I made david was from personal experince with drag racing in my 15 years of playing with cars an watching them. Whats your based off of? Site times an beating bad drivers on the road? :p

[Gotboost98]

none of them are even close dude...give it up

no:laughing:

[na_rsx]

funny thread, my co-worker who owns a 95 GS-T, dp, catback, bov, boost controller, intake wants to race me. i hava 05', injen cai, buddy club rh, buddy club pro-spec. think he got me or what.


btw his car is auto

[Gotboost98]

funny thread, my co-worker who owns a 95 GS-T, dp, catback, bov, boost controller, intake wants to race me. i hava 05', injen cai, buddy club rh, buddy club pro-spec. think he got me or what.


btw his car is auto

if his car is falling on its face an not in good shape you might win.

[Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust]

its auto...i doubt ull lose

ben they trap lower...4 mph slower then 05+...u lose..stop being so cocky

[TRICKY912]

anyone who thinks dsms trap higher stock for stock is a moron. They may have comparable hp, but awd dsms suffer more from drivetrain loss and are also heavier than the rsx.

[Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust]

anyone who thinks dsms trap higher stock for stock is a moron. They may have comparable hp, but awd dsms suffer more from drivetrain loss and are also heavier than the rsx.

so

if a + b = c

ben must be a moron ftw

bottom line...traps can vary a bit, but on a clean run an 02-04 RSX-S will trap between 92 and 94, an 05-06 will trap between 94 and 96 and a GS-T/GSX will trap from 90-92...anything else is just a fluke

no one can ever replicate these crazy good et's and traps when it comes down to it

[Gotboost98]

funny thread, my co-worker who owns a 95 GS-T, dp, catback, bov, boost controller, intake wants to race me. i hava 05', injen cai, buddy club rh, buddy club pro-spec. think he got me or what.


btw his car is auto

its auto...i doubt ull lose

ben they trap lower...4 mph slower then 05+...u lose..stop being so cocky


dude its modded an you obviously dont know how well they take to little mods like that READ HIS MOD LIST ON THE ECLIPSE. I dont think you know how much power it gives them with that. lol

[Gotboost98]

so

if a + b = c

ben must be a moron ftw

bottom line...traps can vary a bit, but on a clean run an 02-04 RSX-S will trap between 92 and 94, an 05-06 will trap between 94 and 96 and a GS-T/GSX will trap from 90-92...anything else is just a fluke

no one can ever replicate these crazy good et's and traps when it comes down to it

:rolleyes:

[Gotboost98]

anyone who thinks dsms trap higher stock for stock is a moron. They may have comparable hp, but awd dsms suffer more from drivetrain loss and are also heavier than the rsx.

right im retarded when ive seen it done many times at my local track give me a break.:sleep:

[seth812]

anyone who thinks dsms trap higher stock for stock is a moron. They may have comparable hp, but awd dsms suffer more from drivetrain loss and are also heavier than the rsx.
word

http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=439676

[savior1974]

trap speeds between rsx-s and gs-t should be about even. edge going to better driver. Gsx is the slowest trap speed wize by like an mph or two, but the fastest in the 1/4.

[TRICKY912]

right im retarded when ive seen it done many times at my local track give me a break.:sleep:


what were they trapping. I really doubt they were stock. Finding a "stock" dsm is extremely rare. Its one of the reasons why i refuse to mod mine.

[Gotboost98]

what were they trapping. I really doubt they were stock. Finding a "stock" dsm is extremely rare. Its one of the reasons why i refuse to mod mine.

check first page first pass he made 97 second backed up with a 95. It was bone stock he made the pass next to me an we talked back at the end of the track. he was like man it sucks im poor I havent got crap for money for mods. all my money goes to child support. So im sure he was stock an i saw no mods anywhere bc etc anything, didnt look like he had washers on the wg only mod he could have had that I wouldnt be able to see would be a ported o2 housing which I know dsm guys do. an the others that I saw trapt it were too on other nights. like I said im just going by what I have seen. Thats why david an I are having this discussion. He made a thread about it to see what other people thought.

[TRICKY912]

check first page first pass he made 97 second backed up with a 95. It was bone stock he made the pass next to me an we talked back at the end of the track. he was like man it sucks im poor I havent got crap for money for mods. all my money goes to child support. So im sure he was stock an i saw no mods anywhere bc etc anything, didnt look like he had washers on the wg only mod he could have had that I wouldnt be able to see would be a ported o2 housing which I know dsm guys do. an the others that I saw trapt it were too on other nights. like I said im just going by what I have seen. Thats why david an I are having this discussion. He made a thread about it to see what other people thought.


1g gst? any weight reduction?

[Gotboost98]

1g gst? any weight reduction?

gsx. None that I could see. it was clean an mint. Saw some 1st gen 6 bolts do the same as that gsx though. I see more of the 6bolts doing the t raps I mentioned here than the 7. But this gsx got down. I was shocked.

[TRICKY912]

gsx. None that I could see. it was clean an mint. Saw some 1st gen 6 bolts do the same as that gsx though. I see more of the 6bolts doing the t raps I mentioned here than the 7. But this gsx got down. I was shocked.

yea i find that really hard to believe that they were stock. A 3100lb car making 190bhp doesn't trap 97 mph were i'm from. Dsmer's are shady, just cuz they say its stock doesn't mean it is.

and all 1g's except for a small number of 94's have 6bolt motors.

[savior1974]

yea i find that really hard to believe that they were stock. A 3100lb car making 190bhp doesn't trap 97 mph were i'm from. Dsmer's are shady, just cuz they say its stock doesn't mean it is.

and all 1g's except for a small number of 94's have 6bolt motors.

LOL Very true... When people asked what was in my 11sec Gsx, I told them its stock turbo awd.

[Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust]

right im retarded when ive seen it done many times at my local track give me a break.:sleep:

15 idiots on the internet > one idiot on the internet

u fail at dsms

[TSimage]

Its going to be a drivers race as long as its not from a dig so who cares?...

Both cars are slow. Only thing is 2 thousand dollars later the RSX is still slow... :laughat:

[Danish]

yea i find that really hard to believe that they were stock. A 3100lb car making 190bhp doesn't trap 97 mph were i'm from. Dsmer's are shady, just cuz they say its stock doesn't mean it is.

and all 1g's except for a small number of 94's have 6bolt motors.


Agreed

[Ride_South]

BWHAHAHAAHA. this thread kicks ass. sorry gotboost, the rsx will trap higher stock for stock MOST of the time. there are always freaks out there and i don't doubt what you saw but generally they are trapping in the high 80's/low 90's stock. but they still get down the lane just as fast. i myself have seen a bone stock gst trap 95 and i know it was stock cause the car was my friends. so i know it can happen but it's not that common. your case could be the same but could just as easily be a 2 inch piece of metal in the vacuum lines that popped his boost up 4 psi...

[sdiddy]

Its going to be a drivers race as long as its not from a dig so who cares?...

Both cars are slow. Only thing is 2 thousand dollars later the RSX is still slow... :laughat:

QFT

[Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust]

Its going to be a drivers race as long as its not from a dig so who cares?...

Both cars are slow. Only thing is 2 thousand dollars later the RSX is still slow... :laughat:

the debate here isnt about wherther either car is slow or even which is faster, its just which puts up a higher trap speed in the 1/4 stock for stock...that is the only thing im asking

obviously the dsm is a better platform for cheap speed...thats not even up for debate

[Ride_South]

the debate here isnt about wherther either car is slow or even which is faster, its just which puts up a higher trap speed in the 1/4 stock for stock...that is the only thing im asking

obviously the dsm is a better platform for everything...thats not even up for debate

fixed...

[Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust]

lol

meh w/e

probably

[Gotboost98]

BWHAHAHAAHA. this thread kicks ass. sorry gotboost, the rsx will trap higher stock for stock MOST of the time. there are always freaks out there and i don't doubt what you saw but generally they are trapping in the high 80's/low 90's stock. but they still get down the lane just as fast. i myself have seen a bone stock gst trap 95 and i know it was stock cause the car was my friends. so i know it can happen but it's not that common. your case could be the same but could just as easily be a 2 inch piece of metal in the vacuum lines that popped his boost up 4 psi...

damnit.:thumbsup: alright I lose. :bow: lock up the thread

[Ride_South]

lol

meh w/e

probably

well except reliability... lol

damnit.:thumbsup: alright I lose. :bow: lock up the thread

+rep for bowing out like a man. lol. you put up a good fight though. crack me up...
to your credit you'll find that gs-t's will trap similiar to 02-04 rsx-s this gsx definately pulls that average down... stock that is...

[Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust]

http://forums.clubrsx.com/signaturepics/sigpic58174_6.gif

i really <3 NBP 05-06s

[Kevin949]

416 14.885@87.790 9.442@72.330 1.932 JVE 91 Eclipse GSX Stock
422 14.928@97.380 9.837@75.330 2.490 HOOKSH 99 Eclipse GST Stock
423 14.948@91.220 9.595@72.520 2.200 BlackTSI 95 Talon TSi AWD Stock
425 14.981@90.520 9.534@71.470 2.091 heineken 97 Eclipse GSX
426 14.983@93.610 9.600@74.600 2.276 m_eclipse_96 96 Eclipse GST Stock
427 14.985@92.480 9.696@72.710 2.332 autoxr37 97 Eclipse GST Stock
433 15.075@87.210 9.528@71.420 1.965 Kinetik_tsi 90 Talon TSi AWD Stock
439 15.241@88.310 9.737@70.730 2.088 Sartuche24 95 Talon TSi AWD Stock
442 15.279@90.86 9.876@72 2.288 Mirage1 98 Eclipse GSX

here's a question...I remember reading somewhere that if you spin the tires off the line that leads to a lower overall time but a higher trap, as opposed to hooking right off the bat that leads to a better time but a lower trap. Is this true? And if it is, doesn't it go into effect in this thread? Just curious, and learning.

[Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust]

people say that but im not so sure about it

[Gotboost98]

well except reliability... lol



+rep for bowing out like a man. lol. you put up a good fight though. crack me up...
to your credit you'll find that gs-t's will trap similiar to 02-04 rsx-s this gsx definately pulls that average down... stock that is...

I can admit when im wrong but I swear I saw n o changes on there motors they looked 100% stock. Maybe it was just some freaks running aroun in my town but I couldnt deny an say they couldnt trap it when I saw it with my own eyes. But I guess those werent commonm even though common at Gateway. Maybe they had the popular dsm mod, Porting the o2 housing.:dontknow: But I lose:beerchug:

[Gotboost98]

here's a question...I remember reading somewhere that if you spin the tires off the line that leads to a lower overall time but a higher trap, as opposed to hooking right off the bat that leads to a better time but a lower trap. Is this true? And if it is, doesn't it go into effect in this thread? Just curious, and learning.

Yes its true

[solis1979]

PERFORMANCE wise the 02 - 04 rsx type s IS PAR with an eclipse gst ...the gsx traps slighly less

and the 05+ type s id say traps higher not by much though.

[Ride_South]

PERFORMANCE wise the 02 - 04 rsx type s IS PAR with an eclipse gst ...the gsx traps slighly less

and the 05+ type s id say traps higher not by much though.

thank you so much!!! i don't know what we would have done without that post...

lol jk:beerchug:

[Gotboost98]

thank you so much!!! i don't know what we would have done without that post...

lol jk:beerchug:

post whore lol

[Ride_South]

post whore lol

i'm so fucking bored at work right now...:sleep:

[Gotboost98]

i'm so fucking bored at work right now...:sleep:

I can tell you should take a nap at work:laughing:

[Kibwe Walker]

The rsx traps higher for the most part but a GSX will still win the 1/4 et and in a short track it would be alot worse.

Side note, since GST's and GSX's are turbocharged they respond to things like elevation and temp in a different manner.

A gst or gsx at see level with a 14b and its 55 degrees out is a completely different animal than the same car a 4k ft above sea level and 9x degrees out. Thats a good 4-5 mph difference in traps (guestimation). Drivetrain differences, FWD manual or auto, AWD manual or auto, different turbos t25<13g<14b .

SO you can have a handfull based on the different variations.

All that to say I have NEVER seen a stock GST or GSX ;) , every single last one of them has SOMETHING done, even if you can't pick it out. Right now I know where there is a galant vr4 that looks completely stock, stock TURBO housing too, BUT it runs low 11's at 125ish, so it ain't stock.

[Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust]

The rsx traps higher for the most part

that was all you needed to say...the only thing being discussed here last week kthxbye:wavey:

[KCRSXTypeS]

Yep, the RSX will trap higher than a GST/GSX...lmao...needed the post

[vladirsx]

teh srt4 will OWNZ..!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111

[seth812]

:rotfl: @ ur new avy

[vladirsx]

:).

[Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust]

teh srt4 will OWNZ..!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111

always

[sunman]

dude its modded an you obviously dont know how well they take to little mods like that READ HIS MOD LIST ON THE ECLIPSE. I dont think you know how much power it gives them with that. lol

2g gst/gsx with only those mods (dp/catback/bc/bov) on the t25 (max 16 psi?) will be a very very close race with a i/rh/e rsx

[whoflung-poo]

Hell I don't know, But I'll vote for the hell of it.

[vladirsx]

Hell I don't know, But I'll vote for the hell of it.

:stfu:

[Buyakasha]

gsx's r dogs on the highway and say wut u want about that but my friend has a 97 gsx with his bcs taken out and an intake and from a 45 mph roll in my stock base it was even until 80 then i just walked on him and by 110 i was 2 car lengths ahead

[Buyakasha]

funny thread, my co-worker who owns a 95 GS-T, dp, catback, bov, boost controller, intake wants to race me. i hava 05', injen cai, buddy club rh, buddy club pro-spec. think he got me or what.


btw his car is auto
unless he has dsmlink cuz its a 95 so its got eprom already, u should have him cuz with the stock turbo and stock fuel system he wont be boosting more than 16 pounds or he'll probly get fuel cut and with your mods and his transmission it shouldnt be a tough race

[TSimage]

gsx's r dogs on the highway and say wut u want about that but my friend has a 97 gsx with his bcs taken out and an intake and from a 45 mph roll in my stock base it was even until 80 then i just walked on him and by 110 i was 2 car lengths ahead

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c246/J1D1H1_/shut_up_bitch.jpg

[Buyakasha]

i mean its ok to have pride but with AWD it loses it balls on the highway and u know its true especially with the stock t25 that runs out of steem at 5500 rpm

[vladirsx]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c246/J1D1H1_/shut_up_bitch.jpg

:rotfl:

[Kibwe Walker]

Well this has already been done and PROVEN by DSM owners and members but the AWD has nothing to do with top end pull.

ITS THE WEIGHT.

Add the weight of a GSX to a GST and you will find that the GST's FWD drivetrain offers NO advantage over the AWD in the GSX in terms of LOSS and pulling power. If the GSX and the GST have the same overall weight, the GSX wins EVERY TIME.

The VCU is THE lightest and THE simpliest of all AWD designs. Simple means less moving parts, less weight and LESS drivetrain loss compared to other AWD platforms.

I get tired of seeing AWD and lack of top end comments in reference to DSM's and the vr4. Thats BS. The T25 is the only thing holding up the second gen GSX. That and the maintenance of owners.

www.dsmtimes.org check out the times by turbo. Even a t25 can hit mid and low 13's :run:

14b's and up different story (12's and below).

[drumnatural]

If I could get a GSX brand new yes. But everyone I know who has one has a hard time keeping them up and running.

[Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust]

Well this has already been done and PROVEN by DSM owners and members but the AWD has nothing to do with top end pull.



:sleep:

[Ride_South]

Well this has already been done and PROVEN by DSM owners and members but the AWD has nothing to do with top end pull.

ITS THE WEIGHT.

Add the weight of a GSX to a GST and you will find that the GST's FWD drivetrain offers NO advantage over the AWD in the GSX in terms of LOSS and pulling power. If the GSX and the GST have the same overall weight, the GSX wins EVERY TIME.

The VCU is THE lightest and THE simpliest of all AWD designs. Simple means less moving parts, less weight and LESS drivetrain loss compared to other AWD platforms.

I get tired of seeing AWD and lack of top end comments in reference to DSM's and the vr4. Thats BS. The T25 is the only thing holding up the second gen GSX. That and the maintenance of owners.

www.dsmtimes.org check out the times by turbo. Even a t25 can hit mid and low 13's :run:

14b's and up different story (12's and below).


plus fucking rep for the most intelligent post so far. looks like there is more than two people on here who actually research their so called 'hobby'

[Ride_South]

If I could get a GSX brand new yes. But everyone I know who has one has a hard time keeping them up and running.

yeah... well gotta pay to play... if you get behind the wheel of a GSX with over 350awhp... you'll be tempted trust me.

[Ride_South]

gsx's r dogs on the highway and say wut u want about that but my friend has a 97 gsx with his bcs taken out and an intake and from a 45 mph roll in my stock base it was even until 80 then i just walked on him and by 110 i was 2 car lengths ahead

you drive a base... you shouldn't be speaking about performance or racing.

[Ride_South]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c246/J1D1H1_/shut_up_bitch.jpg

:rotfl: :rotfl:

+rep

[Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust]

an extra diff saps more power...how can it not matter?

[TRICKY912]

an extra diff saps more power...how can it not matter?

that's very debateable. I've seen awd dsms dynoed in fwd and awd form (disconect the drive shaft to make it fwd), and the power difference was only 3whp. Weight is the biggest factor.

[vladirsx]

plus fucking rep for the most intelligent post so far. looks like there is more than two people on here who actually research their so called 'hobby'

plus rep cause i havent seen you for evar man!!!!:eek:


:wavey: sup man, where've you been?

[Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust]

that's very debateable. I've seen awd dsms dynoed in fwd and awd form (disconect the drive shaft to make it fwd), and the power difference was only 3whp. Weight is the biggest factor.

it makes drag on the road though

[vladirsx]

drag?:confused:

[Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust]

pushing and pulling at the same time

[Buyakasha]

you drive a base... you shouldn't be speaking about performance or racing.
well i guess stock dsm's shouldnt talk about it either then cuz they r slow too and they have more problems then any other import out there

[Gotboost98]

well i guess stock dsm's shouldnt talk about it either then cuz they r slow too and they have more problems then any other import out there

:bsflag: ive seen far worse.

[xonic]

well i guess stock dsm's shouldnt talk about it either then cuz they r slow too and they have more problems then any other import out there

:rotfl: @ calling dsm's slow.

[DavidIX]

The RSX traps higher.

[Kibwe Walker]

an extra diff saps more power...how can it not matter?
Here is the kicker. Its been done over and over again, check DSMtalk and search for them if you want, they are ancient (5+ years old).

On a dyno a AWD car has to push all its drivetrain: AWD system both the FRONT and the BACK wheels, rotors etc. Every bit of loss encountered going down the road is ALSO experienced on the dyno aside from drag.

With a FWD or RWD counterpart you only have to turn either the front or the back. Whats the difference going down the road though? Going down the road not only do you turn the wheels that power the car but you have to turn the wheels that have no power going to them.

See a difference? Check the 3svidiac and look at what happens when a xxx AWHP car runs against a car with supposedly similiar FWHP or RWHP.

The DSM's and vr4's have a UNIQUE point of view in that the platform has all 3 different types of drivetrain (FWD, RWD, AWD), with that they are all powered by the SAME motor (4g63 or 6g72 respectively). Yes there are RWD DSM's and vr4's out there, some people thought RWD was better for some reason and since have found out better ;) .

The VCU is as simple as it gets. One of the guys who converted his vr4 to RWD (Bret Brinkman) lost time in the 1/4 by doing so (half a second IIRC), he also switched to the JDM 410 rear end and didn't shave any time off his 1/4 by doing so. I haven't found anyone that has improved their time or performance by going RWD on the 3s platform. On a brighter note he did place 2nd at nopi in the burnout contest that year though.

Some things are obvious if you just ask why and go about answering it ;)

We are not talking about 9" rear ends here, they are not that big or complex. Losses would be minimal at best. Biggest problem is the weight difference, equalize the weight and you can see the true effect of power at the wheels because everything else about the cars would be identical in terms of the GST vs GSX and TT swap SL vs vr4 (well the vr4 has better gearing here/ has to be a 5 speed Sl vs 6 speed vr4 for close gearing).

[Buyakasha]

:rotfl: @ calling dsm's slow.

whys that funny. stock they run high 14's and low to mid 15's wuts so fast about that. im not sayin they dont have more potential but with that potential comes all there problems

[Kibwe Walker]

whys that funny. stock they run high 14's and low to mid 15's wuts so fast about that. im not sayin they dont have more potential but with that potential comes all there problems
gotta pay to play.

Only comment on that is that the dsm is THE cheapest way to go fast in a import and dispite all the bad owners out there the 4g63 is STILL the most power 4 cylinder in the import world.

The main problem they experience is PRICE.

Think about it, its not that hard to find a DSM for less than 10k now is it? What type of person would purchase a car for that price? How much can said person afford to dumb into their car?

All these things are atleast 10 years old, and I would venture they have 10 years of hard earned miles on them but before a new owner would do the REQUIRED maintenance on the car and service it with all new fluids what do they do?

Most likely go BPU and jack up the boost. When you see the kind of abuse these cars take, day in and day out, your jaw would be on the ground. The fact that they are still running after several hundred 7k side step dumps of the clutch is a testiment to their strength.

Right now I know where there are several DSM's running over 150k on the original tranny and motor and are running solid 11's in the 1/4. What seperates these DSM's from the ones that are absolute junk?

The OWNERS. You can tell alot about a car by its OWNER, a good owner will keep a car up, a bad one will tear it apart and then blame the car for being weak like they had nothing to do with it.

I have had people get mad at me for telling them to use a full synthetic oil in their TURBOCHARGED car. I can't even imagine what dino looks like after 3k miles of being pushed through a TC'ed car at 900-1k degrees temperature.

This is why I like mk4 SUPRA owners, because when they buy a USED car for 20k+ US they don't do stupid crap like the above. They can usually afford the car and to maintain it properly and usually go above and beyond the call of duty because they are not going to hurt their investment.

Anyways it will be interesting to see all these RH, CAI, Exhaust RSX's in another 4-6 years when a few of them get over 10 years old.

[Buyakasha]

Wow u really know your shit i gotta give it to u u r totally right its just annoying when people start knocking my car cuz its not performance oriented when stock for stock from experience i know that my car isnt far behind the gst and takes it to the gsx from a roll and the way i see it if i dump tons of money into my car its gonna be really fast too even tho thats only if i dump tons of money into it. people love to hate on the rsx cuz it doesnt take to upgrades as good as a dsm. when really not too many cars do so to come into and rsx thread and knock them for not being turbocharged and easy to make fast from the factory is kinda dumb. why not go to an rx7 forum and try to do that when its been proven that they can gain 35+ whp from just exhaust upgrades. i just dont see why my opinions are completely shut out because i drive a base. everyone acts like as soon as u drive a base u become retarded when really was i smarter when i owned my gst or my saab turbo or my maxima

[TSimage]

Wow u really know your shit i gotta give it to u u r totally right its just annoying when people start knocking my car cuz its not performance oriented when stock for stock from experience i know that my car isnt far behind the gst and takes it to the gsx from a roll and the way i see it if i dump tons of money into my car its gonna be really fast too even tho thats only if i dump tons of money into it. people love to hate on the rsx cuz it doesnt take to upgrades as good as a dsm. when really not too many cars do so to come into and rsx thread and knock them for not being turbocharged and easy to make fast from the factory is kinda dumb. why not go to an rx7 forum and try to do that when its been proven that they can gain 35+ whp from just exhaust upgrades. i just dont see why my opinions are completely shut out because i drive a base. everyone acts like as soon as u drive a base u become retarded when really was i smarter when i owned my gst or my saab turbo or my maxima


http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c246/J1D1H1_/haha2fo.jpg

:stfu:

You drive a Base RSX, your 1/4 is somewhere in the high 16s and your mph is somwhere in the 80s...

How in the hell do you expect us to believe you beat cars that are so much faster than you...

you said you beat a GSX after 80mph, yet your 1/4mph tells me that you'd fall flat on your ass at the ocho mark and wouldnt be able to pick it back up.. Explain that?

The FASTEST auto Base RSX on record seen at: http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=143527&highlight=base+RSX+1%2F4+times (There is the url since you're probably too stupid to find it youself....) Is SLOWER than the slowest times I have seen for any average-below average condition GSX/TSi AWD/RS Turbo AWD... (This includes MPH) (5spds aren't much faster)

So you tell me how this should sound to us? :bsflag:

Here's the guy: http://forums.clubrsx.com/member.php?userid=12993

Ask him how many DSMs he beats and then ask him about how many mods it took him to get there. :rolleyes:

Basically you are on par with a GS/ESi/RS model. We have plenty of n/a guys talking about their races against Base RSXs on our different forums so I am gauging that that is because of your similar performance which I could only describe in one word:

Prostrated

So go back to the cave you crawled from (Your mother's cavernous vagina?) Hell, your base is even more of a POS (in a performance perspective) than the Type S and because of that I pitty you. But at the same time I feel you aren't worth the showcase of emotion. :shakehead

I've been in faster stock civics than base RSXs.. :thumbsdow

[xonic]

you drive a base... you shouldn't be speaking about performance or racing.

well i guess stock dsm's shouldnt talk about it either then cuz they r slow too and they have more problems then any other import out there

:rotfl: @ calling dsm's slow.

whys that funny. stock they run high 14's and low to mid 15's wuts so fast about that. im not sayin they dont have more potential but with that potential comes all there problems

You drive a base and call a faster car (stock for stock and by far mod for mod) slow. That's what was funny.

[Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust]

they always do that...they call type S's slow mean while we can beat them by over a second...lol the difference between a base and a type s is like the difference between a corvette and a type S

[Buyakasha]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c246/J1D1H1_/haha2fo.jpg

:stfu:

You drive a Base RSX, your 1/4 is somewhere in the high 16s and your mph is somwhere in the 80s...

How in the hell do you expect us to believe you beat cars that are so much faster than you...

you said you beat a GSX after 80mph, yet your 1/4mph tells me that you'd fall flat on your ass at the ocho mark and wouldnt be able to pick it back up.. Explain that?

The FASTEST auto Base RSX on record seen at: http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=143527&highlight=base+RSX+1%2F4+times (There is the url since you're probably too stupid to find it youself....) Is SLOWER than the slowest times I have seen for any average-below average condition GSX/TSi AWD/RS Turbo AWD... (This includes MPH) (5spds aren't much faster)

So you tell me how this should sound to us? :bsflag:

Here's the guy: http://forums.clubrsx.com/member.php?userid=12993

Ask him how many DSMs he beats and then ask him about how many mods it took him to get there. :rolleyes:

Basically you are on par with a GS/ESi/RS model. We have plenty of n/a guys talking about their races against Base RSXs on our different forums so I am gauging that that is because of your similar performance which I could only describe in one word:

Prostrated

So go back to the cave you crawled from (Your mother's cavernous vagina?) Hell, your base is even more of a POS (in a performance perspective) than the Type S and because of that I pitty you. But at the same time I feel you aren't worth the showcase of emotion. :shakehead

I've been in faster stock civics than base RSXs.. :thumbsdow

ok now i dont feel so bad cuz now i know your just fuckin retarded my car does not run high 16's or trap low 80's it runs mid to low 15's stock and traps mid to high 80's first of all and that basically the same as a stock dsm so u need to think about things a little bit more b4 u start runnin off at the mouth like your cars are godly from the factory i never said my car was faster than a type s i never said my car was faster than a gst i never said my car was faster than a gsx on the quarter all i said was i beat a gsx from a 45 mph roll which if u would take your head out of your ass instead of being an ignorant prick would realize that its actually entirely possible

[Buyakasha]

oh yea and 5-speed are much faster than the autos just to let u know buddy

[Evil04C]

oh yea and 5-speed are much faster than the autos just to let u know buddy

Shut up. Your car is slow.

[Buyakasha]

hey buddy great input your opinion is noted thanks

[Gotboost98]

hey buddy great input your opinion is noted thanks

you wont win with them im not sure why you are taking the whole thread on :chillout:

[xonic]

ok now i dont feel so bad cuz now i know your just fuckin retarded my car does not run high 16's or trap low 80's it runs mid to low 15's stock and traps mid to high 80's

okay, so a 160hp rsx translates to a low 15 sec 1/4 mile in the high 80's but a 200hp type s can only muster .2 or .3 faster? Some older models even having trouble getting into 14's?

[Gotboost98]

okay, so a 160hp rsx translates to a low 15 sec 1/4 mile in the high 80's but a 197hp type s can only muster .2 or .3 faster? Some older models even having trouble getting into 14's?

the base isnt a low 15. its mid 15 in stick form at best. There have been some a2s along with myself that got a best of 14.7. Best ive heard of for the 05-06 is 14.5 or 14.6
Hes just misinformed dont listen to him

[Buyakasha]

they r mid 15 second cars with a few rare occasions where there are some 15.2 runs

[Buyakasha]

you wont win with them im not sure why you are taking the whole thread on :chillout:
i don see how this got this far just because i beat a gsx on the highway these dsm guys just cant take it that a base beat one of their own

[Gotboost98]

they r mid 15 second cars with a few rare occasions where there are some 15.2 runs

I believe 15.5 but until ive seen proof of 15.2 for a 100% stock base I cant believe that. Sorry

[Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust]

high 15 second cars w/ a few liars in the low 15s

just like the type s...very high 14 to low 15 second car

omgz if u take the average time of the type S its the same as the best ever w/ a cherry on top base time...wow they must be the same

[Gotboost98]

i don see how this got this far just because i beat a gsx on the highway these dsm guys just cant take it that a base beat one of their own

if you beat one you beat the driver enough said. let it go.

[Buyakasha]

high 15 second cars w/ a few liars in the low 15s

just like the type s...very high 14 to low 15 second car

omgz if u take the average time of the type S its the same as the best ever w/ a cherry on top base time...wow they must be the same
who said they were the same

[Gotboost98]

high 15 second cars w/ a few liars in the low 15s

just like the type s...very high 14 to low 15 second car

omgz if u take the average time of the type S its the same as the best ever w/ a cherry on top base time...wow they must be the same

:laughing: that isnt right david hahah

[Gotboost98]

:dontknow: but it was funnywho said they were the same

[Buyakasha]

if you beat one you beat the driver enough said. let it go.

its really not that amazing guys in stock form gsx's arent quick on the highway

[Gotboost98]

its really not that amazing guys in stock form gsx's arent quick on the highway

no but its got more top end than a base.:giggitygiggity:

[Buyakasha]

until the t25 stops boosting at 5500

[Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust]

they really arent...actually w/ 89-91 mph trap a base rsx may actually have a shot from a roll..lol

what does a base trap at like 88 or 89?

[Buyakasha]

and the weight and drag start killing it

[Buyakasha]

they really arent...actually w/ 89-91 mph trap a base rsx may actually have a shot from a roll..lol

what does a base trap at like 88 or 89?
thank you

[xonic]

i don see how this got this far just because i beat a gsx on the highway these dsm guys just cant take it that a base beat one of their own

if you beat one you beat the driver enough said. let it go.

they really arent...actually w/ 89-91 mph trap a base rsx may actually have a shot from a roll..lol

what does a base trap at like 88 or 89?

from what I've read in the base form it's mid 80's at best in stock form.

[Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust]

u may be right

i bet u cant totally take an auto gsx from a roll

[Gotboost98]

they really arent...actually w/ 89-91 mph trap a base rsx may actually have a shot from a roll..lol

what does a base trap at like 88 or 89?

the eclipse traps faster it will ultimately pull even if it had a shot(base)

[Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust]

from what I"ve read in the base form it's mid 80's at best in stock form.

no way the base auto..not the manual

ls integras trap at like 88

i think the auto traps at 85 or 86 stock

[Buyakasha]

u may be right

i bet u cant totally take an auto gsx from a roll

even tho it was a 5-speed

[Buyakasha]

ok look here the autos r trapping high 80's http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=143527&highlight=base+RSX+1%2F4+times

[Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust]

well he probably messed up
turbos are odd from a roll

i ran an srt-4 in my gt-s from a 45 roll

i was next to him till 95 then he had 2 cars by 110 and about 6 by 120...if they dont have boost built up they will be slow...also they have to know where to shift so they dont lose power

[Gotboost98]

ok look here the autos r trapping high 80's http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=143527&highlight=base+RSX+1%2F4+times

It doesnt say if thats stock times or not. because :dontknow:

[xonic]

ok look here the autos r trapping high 80's http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=143527&highlight=base+RSX+1%2F4+times

uhh yea...all modded trapping high 80's. :thumbsup:

[Buyakasha]

my friend knows when to shift and at 45 where we started he was at almost the top of second its a t25 boost is almost instant especially at that rpm, the first time i went for a ride in his car i asked him why he was shifting b4 the redline and he explained it to me

[xonic]

It doesnt say if thats stock times or not. because :dontknow:

I've lurked the local kc thread long enough to know jaguer8 isn't stock.

[Buyakasha]

uhh yea...all modded trapping high 80's. :thumbsup:
yea those r autos look at the drivetrain loss between a 5-speed and an auto its like 25 whp they need mods to get to where 5-speeds r stock

[Buyakasha]

I've lurked the local kc thread long enough to know jaguer8 isn't stock.
hes got i/rh/e and reflash so yes he went from probly a 16.2 stock to a 15.7

[Gotboost98]

I've lurked the local kc thread long enough to know jaguer8 isn't stock.

I knew that but I wasnt sure if it was a stock time or his modded time:p

[Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust]

btw

Quickest ET N/A Base
1. 14.663 @ 94.38 - Klutch RSX
2. 14.945 @ 94.01 - ivtecinRSX
3. 14.999 @ 93.19 - corso28
4. 15.368 @ 91.04 - TeamBC
5. 15.410 @ 89.96 - AcuraGuy
6. 15.435 @ 90.64 - RacingHart05
7. 15.510 @ 88.92 - llwrdlfstyl
8. 15.551 @ 88.50 - MTO RSX
9. 15.577 @ 89.19 - jaguer8
10. 15.643 @ 88.92 - K20Aracer

so they do trap in the high 80s

[Buyakasha]

i'm glad we cleared that up

[xonic]

btw

Quickest ET N/A Base
1. 14.663 @ 94.38 - Klutch RSX
2. 14.945 @ 94.01 - ivtecinRSX
3. 14.999 @ 93.19 - corso28
4. 15.368 @ 91.04 - TeamBC
5. 15.410 @ 89.96 - AcuraGuy
6. 15.435 @ 90.64 - RacingHart05
7. 15.510 @ 88.92 - llwrdlfstyl
8. 15.551 @ 88.50 - MTO RSX
9. 15.577 @ 89.19 - jaguer8
10. 15.643 @ 88.92 - K20Aracer

so they do trap in the high 80s

still note sure. I see slips of modded ones hitting 88-89mph traps so a stock one should still be a few mph behind. The peeps on that list are modded anyway.

Look at this thread (http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=404759).

[Buyakasha]

klutchrsx ran stock if i remember correctly 15.6 at 89mph. with good tires not stockies a base will run 15.5 at best. and to the post above, yea true but that final gear ratio means nothing if the 3rd gear is out the powerband like the base.
theres a stock one running 89

[Gotboost98]

theres a stock one running 89

with good tires .....just stop :rotfl:

[Buyakasha]

dude tires arent the issue that would just make his et faster and maybe like .5 mph

[Gotboost98]

dude tires arent the issue that would just make his et faster and maybe like .5 mph

no but it lowers 1/4 time. you missed the point entirely where is the face that has a jet flying overhead.

[Buyakasha]

K20Aracer, this guy ran a 15.6 at 88 bone stock look through his threads http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=119119 hes in the top list too so he showed his time slip somewhere

[MyCarGoesVroom]

Who gives a shit? This one guy did this time and that time blah blah blah. The average trap speed is what MOST normal drivers would get. Just because one guy can do it doesn't mean that's what 99% of the other owners will do. Give it a rest. The RSX is no speed demon.

[Gotboost98]

my name is andrew im hardly ever on aimmmmmmmmmmmm

[MyCarGoesVroom]

my name is andrew im hardly ever on aimmmmmmmmmmmm

I'm NEVER on AIM. If you want me to hop on, just shoot me a PM.

[Kibwe Walker]

well he probably messed up
turbos are odd from a roll

i ran an srt-4 in my gt-s from a 45 roll

i was next to him till 95 then he had 2 cars by 110 and about 6 by 120...if they dont have boost built up they will be slow...also they have to know where to shift so they dont lose power
turbos are odd from a roll.

They don't quit per say. Even if you have a undersized turbo out of its efficiency range you are still light years ahead of a NA.

As long as pressure is being created in your plenum to force air into your combustion chamber at a rate greater than atmospheric pressure, your moving. Stock 9b's on my car DO NOT hold more than 9-11 psi to redline based on exhaust work. Doesn't matter. I hit 175 in mine with the car still wanting more (I ran out of road).

You could be doing 60 or 160, doesn't really matter. Put your foot down, turbos spool up and your car feels like its trying to run out from under you. Even if everything including hp is identical other than NA vs FI, I lean towards FI for the top end side of things.

If you watch modern racing look at the things that they BAN or do not permit because of a unfair advantage. In most racing scenes, turbos are on that list of banned items. Its an unfair advantage and opens up the adjustability and performance gains.

Think a K&N gives you their claim up to 30 hp? Not NA unless you have a big V8 under the but if you have a turbo or two a open element instead of that stock airbox can give you that much hp.

Think a exhaust will give you the claimed 30+ hp? Not NA unless you have a big v8 but if you have a turbo and you get all those cats out of the way, you may get alot more than just 30 hp.

I could list everything that you could possible do to a car to get more air in and more exhaust out and every single last one of them works better for a car with FI (turbo or supercharger), nitrous is FI but the gains are even more profound especially when used with a turbo.

Anyways you can learn a lot from history, doesn't matter which forum or platform you go to, its a pretty safe bet that the guy at the top (fastest car for the platform), has a turbo or two. Not just the guy at the top but the majority of the top ten have FI via a turbo.

[Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c246/J1D1H1_/haha2fo.jpg

anyways it seems like bases trap from 86-89 stock

i/e doesnt do that much to trap speeds..1 or 2 mph at best

not like the k20z1 type S where its 95-96 stock and then 100 w/ i/rh..the only reason we see gains like that is because of well...vtec...lmao everything is exagerated after the cam cross over so u need more airflow and u get more gains

similar thing w/ my gt-s, i ported the throttle body from 65mm to 68mm and it gained nothing until the cam crossover and then after it gained 4whp
http://forums.clubrsx.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=262156&stc=1&d=1169474115

ok didnt need to say all that

[MyCarGoesVroom]

VTEC is like turbo lag till 6K rpms.

[Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust]

ehh RSX's are a lot more linear then that

[MyCarGoesVroom]

Yes they are. Hell my turbo going full boost is more linear than that.

[Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust]

lift ftl

still the point of vtec is it acts like an econo car at low rpms...its supposed to "lag"..lol

[MyCarGoesVroom]

My car feels like an econobox below 3K rpms. That's how I safe gas.

[Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust]

this thread should be locked...its way off topic

what mpg do u get? city

[MyCarGoesVroom]

I average 24mpg and that's with 50% city, 30% stop and go on the highway, and 20% on the highway.

[Ride_South]

i mean its ok to have pride but with AWD it loses it balls on the highway and u know its true especially with the stock t25 that runs out of steem at 5500 rpm

it was a joke, and sign your rep bitch. check neg on cp.

[Ride_South]

well i guess stock dsm's shouldnt talk about it either then cuz they r slow too and they have more problems then any other import out there

and i know this is late but my room mates 92 talon tsi STOCK beside springs, would destroy you.

it's not that you shouldn't talk because you drive a base. you shouldn't talk because you obviously know didly shit about cars or racing, just because you have a car that looks kinda fast doesn't mean you have earned the right to spout nonsensicle ravings and neg reg without out signing... 'ass'

[TRICKY912]

and i know this is late but my room mates 92 talon tsi STOCK beside springs, would destroy you.

it's not that you shouldn't talk because you drive a base. you shouldn't talk because you obviously know didly shit about cars or racing, just because you have a car that looks kinda fast doesn't mean you have earned the right to spout nonsensicle ravings and neg reg without out signing... 'ass'


:iamwiths:

Once again here's a reminder of what happens when a modded rsx (type s) races a bone stock 1g (1st race.)

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1534291663

now just imagine what would happen to your base.

[Ride_South]

:iamwiths:

Once again here's a reminder of what happens when a modded rsx (type s) races a bone stock 1g (1st race.)

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1534291663

now just imagine what would happen to your base.

and the +rep train is comin' for ya...

[Ride_South]

plus rep cause i havent seen you for evar man!!!!:eek:


:wavey: sup man, where've you been?

been alright. finally got my tranny rebuild complete. so i'm happy about that. been goin out shooting often. but other than that just trying to decide if i want to leave a job i hate that pays well or not.

plus if i'm skimmin' the site in work hours i really only visit threads that look interesting in here now. or the 'outdoors' and 'pulpit'

[Gotboost98]

:wavey:

[Ride_South]

:wavey:

wudup yo...

[Gotboost98]

wudup yo...

eh not much the campus net is lagging like usual. It likes to do that when I get on. It has it out for me im convinced of it. How about you?

[Ride_South]

eh not much the campus net is lagging like usual. It likes to do that when I get on. It has it out for me im convinced of it. How about you?

not much just at work... as i almost always am when on here... but about to get on a hour long call with a prospective student. :yawn:

[Gotboost98]

not much just at work... as i almost always am when on here... but about to get on a hour long call with a prospective student. :yawn:

I see. Whats her name :laughing: +rep

[Buyakasha]

:iamwiths:

Once again here's a reminder of what happens when a modded rsx (type s) races a bone stock 1g (1st race.)

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1534291663

now just imagine what would happen to your base.

yea no shit it will beat it from a dig that wasnt wut was in question

[Ride_South]

I see. Whats her name :laughing: +rep

lol... i wish. i just get tired of asking students the same questions over and over... rep returned.

[Gotboost98]

lol... i wish. i just get tired of asking students the same questions over and over... rep returned.

Its safe to say you are a student too or are you teacher:dontknow:

[Ride_South]

Its safe to say you are a student too or are you teacher:dontknow:

yeah man i'm still a student. but i work for a 'for profit' university. not one of those fly by night bullshit places. it's a fully accredited institution, i'm an admissions advisor so when people are considering coming to school here, they speak with me.

[Gotboost98]

yeah man i'm still a student. but i work for a 'for profit' university. not one of those fly by night bullshit places. it's a fully accredited institution, i'm an admissions advisor so when people are considering coming to school here, they speak with me.

I should come there to speak with you an ask you a million questions an then be like nah :laughing: :shady: Thats cool though you ge to scope out all the possible girls to come :love:
Also gst/gsx>base rsx
*edit* time to go study for the next class in an hour in 10 min:(

[vladirsx]

been alright. finally got my tranny rebuild complete. so i'm happy about that. been goin out shooting often. but other than that just trying to decide if i want to leave a job i hate that pays well or not.

plus if i'm skimmin' the site in work hours i really only visit threads that look interesting in here now. or the 'outdoors' and 'pulpit'

i hear ya man..

[MyCarGoesVroom]

i hear ya man..

I'm having fun in the Birds and the Bees section.

[vladirsx]

post link

[TSimage]

Silly base reatard.. I'm gunna knick name you "Base-head" cause it just seems to fit you...

[MyCarGoesVroom]

post link

Just the entire section. It has some pretty random stuff.

Silly base reatard.. I'm gunna knick name you "Base-head" cause it just seems to fit you...

I prefer dumbshit.

[TRICKY912]

yea no shit it will beat it from a dig that wasnt wut was in question


I still question your stock base beating a gsx.

[MyCarGoesVroom]

The GSX had a broken center and rear differential and a front half shaft was missing so it was just driving in circles.

[vladirsx]

nope........it was an rs with gsx badges

[Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust]

I still question your stock base beating a gsx.

why the hell is your talon tsi a dd and not your rsx?

[TRICKY912]

why the hell is your talon tsi a dd and not your rsx?

Cuz i'm funny like that.

[Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust]

lol

fwd racer
awd dd

odd

[Kibwe Walker]

nope........it was an rs with gsx badges
I second this motion.

[Ride_South]

Silly base reatard.. I'm gunna knick name you "Base-head" cause it just seems to fit you...

though i agree with you... isn't it retard....? :rotfl:

[TSimage]

though i agree with you... isn't it retard....? :rotfl:

No its a specific kind. When the "a" is added it denotes "asshole" thus he is a reatard"

"Google that shit... it exist, believe me" - D.C.

[Ride_South]

No its a specific kind. When the "a" is added it denotes "asshole" thus he is a reatard"

"Google that shit... it exist, believe me" - D.C.

LOL :rotfl:

[TSimage]

Why does this stupid thread keep auto reviving itself?

[Gotboost98]

Why does this stupid thread keep auto reviving itself?

because if someone votes on the poll it does t hat. lol

[TSimage]

because if someone votes on the poll it does t hat. lol

Close that damn poll lol..

[Gotboost98]

Close that damn poll lol..

I cant im powerless :laughing:

[Ride_South]

hey... shut up...

[Gotboost98]

hey... shut up...

hey diaf :wavey: :p :D :beerchug:

[Ride_South]

hey diaf :wavey: :p :D :beerchug:

lol... does that mean die in a fire? i've never heard what that means. but if it was up to me that'd be it.

[Gotboost98]

lol... does that mean die in a fire? i've never heard what that means. but if it was up to me that'd be it.

yes it is :bow: :beerchug: :thumbsup:

[Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust]

diaf

do it ehhh ftw

[04azuremach]

I voted RSX :noes:

[Gotboost98]

I voted RSX :noes:

:p alright alright I was wrong! stop voting assholes :rotfl:

[Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust]

lol

[Gotboost98]

lol

shut up david lol

[PwN_tHiS]

Both cars are slow hunks of shit.. ive driven an 02 Type S modded and a 1997 GSX modded.. neither come close to being able to trap high 97.. a 97 mph trap for AWD is high 13s territory.. 97 for an RSX is like mid 14-low 14s territory

The gsx was faster than the type s but still a fuckin dog.. ill keep my tractionless neon over those 2 cars thanks

[TSimage]

Both cars are slow hunks of shit.. ive driven an 02 Type S modded and a 1997 GSX modded.. neither come close to being able to trap high 97.. a 97 mph trap for AWD is high 13s territory.. 97 for an RSX is like mid 14-low 14s territory

The gsx was faster than the type s but still a fuckin dog.. ill keep my tractionless neon over those 2 cars thanks

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :laughat: :laughat: :run: :run: :lawl: :lawl: :lawl:

[vladirsx]

:deadhorse:die thread die:deadhorse:

[6thgenpimp]

I say rsx. I would hang with my buddies gst from a roll with my tourqeless 99 civic si, with just intake, i wouldnt win but i would be right there, and my rsx would demolish my si. Just my opinion.

[6thgenpimp]

man im so late with this post close thread.

[WRX STi KILLA]

i was side by side with a 02-03 GTS
from a dead stop.
in the lexus RX300

[WRX STi KILLA]

:deadhorse:die thread die:deadhorse::rotfl: :rotfl:

[vladirsx]

i was side by side with a lingenfelter tt in my rsx, and my suby will demolish my rsx..:shady:
the lingenfelter tt was unaware of the race cause i used the "overtake" method of racing where only one person is aware that a race is happening:run:

[6thgenpimp]

sux 4 ^

[WRX STi KILLA]

i was side by side with a lingenfelter tt in my rsx, and my suby will demolish my rsx..:shady:
the lingenfelter tt was unaware of the race cause i used the "overtake" method of racing where only one person is aware that a race is happening:run:that way, you'll have a win everytime.:thumbsup:

[vladirsx]

yup:bow:
i have a very long kill list:noes:

[vladirsx]

I sux joo^

naw, its ok

[wishihadaskyline]

WTB dead thread

[6thgenpimp]

naw, its ok

Yeah real mature changing posts. (fucking ricer)

[vladirsx]

ricer? :rotfl:
wow, real original there bud:rolleyes:
sometimes i get sad just talking to you your so pathetic.....ima stop now....peace:finger:

[6thgenpimp]

what the hell im pathetic obviously your the one who is pathetic i mean look at your posts count you sit in front of screen all day jerking off to the official babe thread on here and im the one who is pathetic, pllleeeeaaassse. Your probably the type of person who was picked on a young buck, and now you go out and find front wheel drive owners and clown on them behind a screen man I wish I was back in socal right just so I can run you at the track, and your probably going to say "oh look at this ricer calling me out durrrrr" well you know thats right me and you when I get back in january that way when I smoke your ass I can come on here and blast your ass in front of everyone. Now I'm done.

[vladirsx]

what the hell im pathetic obviously your the one who is pathetic i mean look at your posts count you sit in front of screen all day jerking off to the official babe thread on here and im the one who is pathetic, pllleeeeaaassse. Your probably the type of person who was picked on a young buck, and now you go out and find front wheel drive owners and clown on them behind a screen man I wish I was back in socal right just so I can run you at the track, and your probably going to say "oh look at this ricer calling me out durrrrr" well you know thats right me and you when I get back in january that way when I smoke your ass I can come on here and blast your ass in front of everyone. Now I'm done.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaha:rotfl::lawl:

[vladirsx]

:run:oh noes!!11:run:
im scerrrdd:nervous:
:rotfl::laughat:

[6thgenpimp]

you are impossible to try and conversate with. W/E guy later and see you in another thread.

[vladirsx]

http://home.maine.rr.com/mattyg/wambulance.jpg
im being threatened by an:
http://telekinesis.org/images/ethug.jpg
:rotfl:

[vladirsx]

you are impossible to try and conversate with. W/E guy later and see you in another thread.

conversate with? lmao:mam:
you blurt out stupid shit, repeatedly....you claim utter bullshit continuously...... wait wait, what was that about them slips you were going to post up of you doing 13.9 with i/rh/e????!!!:confused: cause i sure as hell dont see em:crying::laughat:
then you apologize for being a dumbass, and everything is cool.....till the next time some other noob starts saying stupid shit and i call him on it too, and you flame me behind him cause your such a pussy.....

[vladirsx]

you constantly claim stupid f&f shit and expect to get some respect? you claim to have an rsx with mods half of which you are unaware of since "you bought it like that":rolleyes:
before you start to talk out of your ass like a noobasaurus douche, you need to realize that your immature bashing is not doint much but making me laugh....you are going to be in cali in january? :eek: holy shit i think i just farted im so scerrd:nervous:
please oh please dont call me out cause ill get smoke and youll bash me on the internetz:run::crying:
id love to see you at a local meet someday, so i can see if you are as retarded in person as you are on the internet:rotfl:

[6thgenpimp]

You said you were going to stop and I guess I win seeing that you feel threatened. But this will just keep going how about I just say you get the last word and thats it. Thats what you want anyway.

[vladirsx]

get your "TOO SOON JR" ass onto some informative sites and read up on performance info, so that when you blurt stuff out or claim shit it doesnt sound so rediculously ricey and stupid and people at least give you the benefit of the doubt and not laugh at you altogether:thumbsup:

[vladirsx]

You said you were going to stop and I guess I win seeing that you feel threatened. But this will just keep going how about I just say you get the last word and thats it. Thats what you want anyway.

threatened? aaaaaaaahahaha:rotfl:
thats why id love for you to come down to sacramento, ca huh? cause im so scerd and rather get flamed on the internetzzz:run::nervous:
god, your stupider than i thought:(

[vladirsx]

see, some people are cool to argue over the internet cause they at least put up a fight or bring some sort of amusement......you are just sad: you neither have any sarcasm, nor wit, or any kind of smart info in your brain to use to get out of situations like this, so yo say stupid shit like: ill race you :run:oh noez!!!
you can bring you sorry i/rh/e/whateverthef ass over any time, i havent pwnt a noob in a while like this....:mam:

[6thgenpimp]

And what about you mr if you dont own turbo car or awd car you cant have anything to do with cars, if you love cars so much than why cant you just respect what other people bring to the table or have. I mean i'm pretty sure you drive a decent car, but you are not the only one, I drive an rsx I started fromt the bottom with a 95 dx that i worked hard to pay in cash yeah it was the slowest piece of shit car but it was mine i cared about nothing other people said about it, it was mine. Now about me being at a meet one day in due time oh yes in due time.

[vladirsx]

well how about till then you stfu about racing me untill you back your shittalk up huh? k thnx:thumbsup:

oh and also shut your trap about the mr awd and all that other bullshit...the reason i make fun of you has absolutely NOTHING to do with the fact that you own an rsx.....i love the rsx, and i respect average joes that dont have much money tinkering with their cars on a budget and making them faster cause they're enthusiasts....what i DO have a problem with, is your complete lack of knowledge and blurting stupid shit out and claiming comblete bullshit.....example: where the fuck are those timeslips you promised? you dont have any? why casue you lied? thats right.. shut the fuck up...
the only reason i brought up me smoking your ass in your rsx is cause your ricey ass brought it up in the first place: "ill smoke you an dthen bash you on the internet" :rolleyes: f*ckn 13 year old:laughat:

[vladirsx]

in fact, i was the one that argued the most with the awd folks in here for bashing the rsx....just look in other threads.....hell, i still go at it with tsimage cause in every one of his posts he claims the rsx to be the anus of the automotive world and pisses on them with every word that comes out of his mouth.....so dont even go there bud...

[vladirsx]

the rsx is a very nice daily driver that is nice in every aspect (except fwd:o) and i have respect for it....what makes me sad is lil kids like yourself being able to afford one nowadays and getting them after watching the f&f series and being complete fucktards and ricing them out and being hella stupid with them...it gives the rsx a bad name and is one of the reasons i sold mine.....i had 4 of them btw:thumbsup: so dont even try to act like you know shit more than me about them......ok, we are done here:
next:wavey:

[6thgenpimp]

later

[vladirsx]

later johhny tran:wavey:

[6thgenpimp]

later girl on johhny trans bike j/k its a joke. Later

[vladirsx]

she was hot..id tap that ass
http://www.filmz.de/film_2001/the_fast_and_the_furious/bilder/rick_yune.jpg
..if i wasnt married:laughing:

[FLiP]

lol, wow just wow.

[vladirsx]

sacramento holla :wavey:

[FLiP]

woop woop

[6thgenpimp]

she was hot..id tap that ass
http://www.filmz.de/film_2001/the_fast_and_the_furious/bilder/rick_yune.jpg
..if i wasnt married:laughing:

we look good together :rotfl: and so would I but yeah...... Married!!!!!!

[vladirsx]

woop woop

i just checked out your ride...nice man, abp is teh sex....now you gotta lower it though, wheel gaps ftl:(

[FLiP]

i just checked out your ride...nice man, abp is teh sex....now you gotta lower it though, wheel gaps ftl:(

thanks dude, yea im workin on it.. hehe

[TSimage]

funny how the tide turns..:rolleyes:

[vladirsx]

its ok. the argument ended...no more input is required from you, thanx:thumbsup:

[Broken5hifT]

its ok. the argument ended...no more input is required from you, thanx:thumbsup:

lmao. ouch

[vladirsx]

he was just going to stir shit up anyways:o

[young3]

lets have a shoot out.

[Broken5hifT]

he was just going to stir shit up anyways:o

thats what he gets for trying to take my job

[TSimage]

thats what he gets for trying to take my job

Bah, I neeeded not say anything else. My point was proven. lol

[xrs_racer]

i think the gsx

[vladirsx]

:shakehead

[FLiP]

Just let it die!

[vladirsx]

:deadhorse

[The-S]

I has a crayon!

[vladirsx]

naw, fuk dat:
http://smiliesftw.com/x/crayon.gif

[dc4todc5]

ive driven a friends TSI AWD which was stock with just a few of the DSM boy tricks done to it and managed a 14.4@94mph.. his runs consisted of better times with lower traps.. overall i think 90-92ish give or take is fair for the average GSX/TSI AWD.. i havent run my TypeS yet but from what ive seen for 04 and downs 94mph is very hard to achieve and the average is more like 93ish..

[vladirsx]

are you joking? on my shittiest run, which was 2 months after getting my black one and not knowing how to launch it for shit, not to mention my tires were overinflated to 35psi, i got a 94mph trap...iono who you been talkin to, but if someone tells you its hard to achieve a 94 trap on a type-s, they are retarded or 16 and cant drive for shit yo.....a properly driven type-s should be getting 14.8-14.9@95mph.....94 if you cant drive for shit....anything less and you need like 1000hours of fucking practice or are retarded

[6thgenpimp]

35 psi whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Gotboost98]

Just let it die!

QFT

[vladirsx]

http://modus-ponens.minotaurcomputing.com/blog/images/black_superman.jpg

[Buyakasha]

http://modus-ponens.minotaurcomputing.com/blog/images/black_superman.jpg

he would beat the gsx from a dig

[1JZ Type-S]

^^true story. I seen him beat a Ferrari from a 200mph roll.