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htotheizo
01-12-2007, 04:44 PM
Well, the other night I pulled up next to a 3000gt and I noticed it was not a vr4. It had exhaust and I'm not sure what else but it sounded really good. Surprisingly good. He was reving it up and seemed like he wanted to show me what it could do. There were a couple cars on the road with us so we never really got a good race in but I got up next to him and we both got on it at the same time from about 30 or so and I pulled out ahead and got in front of him and left him behind before we started catching up to the next traffic light. I think he was getting on it hard as shit because his engine was going crazy. Sounded like it would have whooped my ass but the car was nothing special in terms speed. Then at the light he was still behind me and I nailed it just to sort of play around and he tried to keep up and pass me and he was really getting into it again. He got in the lane next to me but was already 1-2 cars behind and never was able to gain any distance he just kept falling behind and then at about 80 or so I let off to let him catch up and get next to me and so we could run them and he just went passed and then started darting threw the traffic ahead and I never got near him again. He totally pussed out and would not even look at me he just disappeared in the traffic. I think we both knew even though his car sounded and looked awesome I was totally beating up on it. It was funny because I always wanted one of those cars when I was younger.
My cars stock BTW
MaxOwner
01-12-2007, 04:48 PM
nice run
htotheizo
01-12-2007, 05:03 PM
It was fun. As soon as I saw it wasn't a vr4 i knew we were pretty close in performance. I was surprised it wasn't faster though. Maybe it was an auto or badly maintained. I think it was probably a stick though because he was chirping when shifting. I have driven some non-vr4's that were pretty fast, or at least i thought they were at the time.
sdiddy
01-12-2007, 05:14 PM
Well, the other night I pulled up next to a 3000gt and I noticed it was not a vr4. It had exhaust and I'm not sure what else but it sounded really good. Surprisingly good. He was reving it up and seemed like he wanted to show me what it could do. There were a couple cars one the road with us so we never really got a good race in but I got up next to him and we both got on it at the same time from about 30 or so and I pulled out ahead and got in front of him and left him behind before we started catching up to the next traffic light. I think he was getting on it hard as shit because his engine was going crazy. Sounded like it would have whooped my ass but the car was nothing special in terms speed. Then at the light he was still behind me and I nailed it just to sort of play around and he tried to keep up and pass me and he was really getting into it again. Then he got in the lane next to me but was already 1-2 cars behind and never was able to gain any distance he just kept falling behind and then at about 80 or so I let off to let him catch up and get next to me and so we could run them and he just went passed and then started darting threw the traffic ahead and I never got near him again. He totally pussed out and would not even look at me he just disappeared in the traffic. I think we both knew even though his car sounded and looked awesome I was totally beating up on it. It was funny because I always wanted one of those cars when I was younger.
My cars stock BTW
:rotfl:
INB4DAFLAMEZ!!!
htotheizo
01-12-2007, 05:18 PM
i figured i would get some flaming for some reason its all good but what is funny though?
Reframe
01-12-2007, 05:35 PM
hahaha
sdiddy
01-12-2007, 05:48 PM
A stock RSX-S pulling on a 3000gt VR4 that looked to be modded = :rotfl:
1.) Either the VR4 was in terrible mechanical condition,
or 2.) it was an SL with a VR4 badge.... which makes sense since you said you heard it chirp between shifts... or was that 'chirp' between shifts actually a BOV... hmmm.. If thats the case, theory one is more likely
htotheizo
01-12-2007, 05:58 PM
A stock RSX-S pulling on a 3000gt VR4 that looked to be modded = :rotfl:
1.) Either the VR4 was in terrible mechanical condition,
or 2.) it was an SL with a VR4 badge.... which makes sense since you said you heard it chirp between shifts... or was that 'chirp' between shifts actually a BOV... hmmm.. If thats the case, theory one is more likely
dude are you dumb? can you read? it says straight up in like the first line "I pulled up next to a 3000gt and I noticed it was not a vr4"
htotheizo
01-12-2007, 06:02 PM
and then in my post after that i even said this:
It was fun. As soon as I saw it wasn't a vr4 i knew we were pretty close in performance
i dont see where you could have possibly got confused.
z24sport
01-12-2007, 06:12 PM
Thread started edited his posts....maybe he said it was a VR4 at first? who knows....who cares.
htotheizo
01-12-2007, 06:17 PM
Thread started edited his posts....maybe he said it was a VR4 at first? who knows....who cares.
dude thats totally weak. i edited my spelling errors. But what i wrote stayed the same.
And look at post #4 posted by sdiddy he quoted the original thread and i could not have edited his. So go look at that. He responded to the original.
Man tough crowd out here.
z24sport
01-12-2007, 06:21 PM
I was just guessing...Sdiddy must've edited the quoted part out. Don't blame me lol. From what I seen, it just looked like that's what happened.
I believe ya though. Good race. Don't ya hate sore losers who just fly by when you wanna either talk to them or give them another chance and they just run away...probably to tell their friends he smoked ya.
htotheizo
01-12-2007, 06:22 PM
yeah it seems that happens more then anything else.
MaxOwner
01-12-2007, 06:50 PM
I saw the post when it was created.. he stated it wasn't a VR4 .. his edit was after my post.. so he didn't change his post
htotheizo
01-12-2007, 06:53 PM
I saw the post when it was created.. he stated it wasn't a VR4 .. his edit was after my post.. so he didn't change his post
Thank you MaxOwner your the man. :wavey:
i guess there are some cool people left on clubrsx afterall
sdiddy
01-12-2007, 07:11 PM
dude are you dumb? can you read? it says straight up in like the first line "I pulled up next to a 3000gt and I noticed it was not a vr4"
troof...
reading > me
:o
I was skimming... All I read was ...
vr4.... it had exhaust... race... I pulled.....my car is stock...
htotheizo
01-12-2007, 07:23 PM
troof...
reading > me
:o
Its all good man. I didnt mean to be too defensive there but i just dont want to come off as just another bullshiter.
htotheizo
01-12-2007, 07:37 PM
i actually tried to get a vr4 to race one time. He just laughed at me as i tore off down the road with wheels squealing and front tires hoppin. It was funny as shit i was laughin at me too.
WRX STi KILLA
01-12-2007, 11:41 PM
good kill man..
The None VR-4 3000GT's have like 220HP I think.
but weight over 3000Lbs. so it's not going to touch a well driven RSX-S.
WRX STi KILLA
01-12-2007, 11:43 PM
0-60 in 8.5
1/4 mile in 16.40
3000SL is WEAK.
IlovemyIS
01-13-2007, 02:19 AM
Im lucky enough to own a 3000gt Spyder SL, love the thing, its decent in speed but withing the next year im planing on droping in the GTO vr4 in it =D
nice run
PackerManDan35
01-13-2007, 04:15 AM
0-60 in 8.5
1/4 mile in 16.40
3000SL is WEAK.
8.5??? Wow...I would have thought the SL's would be quicker than that. Like maybe around 7 seconds or something.
daversx
01-13-2007, 02:43 PM
hahahah I know what you mean.. when I was younger I remember thinking 3000gt's were like ferrari's or something. I wanted one real bad for awhile. I was thinking about buying a wrx before the rsx. turns out my friend who owns a wrx says he likes my car a lot better. its always nice to be stoked on your 'whip' :)
htotheizo
01-13-2007, 04:01 PM
hahahah I know what you mean.. when I was younger I remember thinking 3000gt's were like ferrari's or something. I wanted one real bad for awhile. I was thinking about buying a wrx before the rsx. turns out my friend who owns a wrx says he likes my car a lot better. its always nice to be stoked on your 'whip' :)
yeah me too man. Those cars are still sexy. And I'm a sucker for a good jap v6 or inline 6 especially if it's a twin turbo. That was my favorite era for jap cars and id take a supra TT, 300zx TT, 3000gt vr4, or nsx before id take any of the evos or wrxs or any of those type of cars out today. Because not only do they have power they have sexiness and style and class. And alot of them are sort of legendary. I used to have a supra turbo and i miss it alot.
There were 2 models below the vr4, one was an SL and the other was a base. The SL had dual exhause and 220hp and the base had single exhaust with 160hp, and even the bases sound good with an exhaust set up.
My guess is you raced an SL.
Good job :)
ibkwibewalker
htotheizo
01-13-2007, 04:42 PM
There were 2 models below the vr4, one was an SL and the other was a base. The SL had dual exhause and 220hp and the base had single exhaust with 160hp, and even the bases sound good with an exhaust set up.
My guess is you raced an SL.
Good job :)
ibkwibewalker
Yeah I think it was an SL because I would say it definetly had more then 160 because it was moving good and they are heavy. And it had dual exhaust. He also seemed pretty confident in his car at first and underestimated mine. I guess i couldnt really be sure though. :dontknow:
MyCarGoesVroom
01-13-2007, 11:43 PM
Yeah I think it was an SL because I would say it definetly had more then 160 because it was moving good and they are heavy. And it had dual exhaust. He also seemed pretty confident in his car at first and underestimated mine. I guess i couldnt really be sure though. :dontknow:
All 3000GTs have dual exhausts. Those cars were so bad ass many years ago. I still wanted the Evo over it though. :p
All 3000GTs have dual exhausts. Those cars were so bad ass many years ago. I still wanted the Evo over it though. :p
Oh wait, your right. I was thinking of the stealths, they were the ones that had a single exhaust outlet :Dj
Kibwe Walker
01-14-2007, 03:11 PM
Oh wait, your right. I was thinking of the stealths, they were the ones that had a single exhaust outlet :Dj
only for 1st gens, with pop up headlights.
All 94+ 3k's and stealths have dual exhaust.
http://www.team3s.com/FAQ-Specs1.htm
They all sound mean, especially the NA's. I had a single in dual out flowmaster 40 series setup on my SL back in the day. That thing is still remembered today. Could set off alarms with the shockwave of just idling by.
Sounded like a Ferrari down low and at 4k RPMS when the baffles shifts in the intake plenum the tone switched towards a high pitched F1 type sound. Thats the only thing I miss about my NA, I will never be able to get that sound out of either of my TT's because the turbos muffle the exhaust so much.
Kibwe Walker
01-14-2007, 03:22 PM
Yeah I think it was an SL because I would say it definetly had more then 160 because it was moving good and they are heavy. And it had dual exhaust. He also seemed pretty confident in his car at first and underestimated mine. I guess i couldnt really be sure though. :dontknow:
Even though they all look the same, they are not. Can't really tell the difference between a sl and a base with a casual look.
Only the internal luxuries can tell them apart especially if the wheels have been changed.
vladirsx
01-14-2007, 07:05 PM
not trying to thread jack but let me just point out that:
THE CONDITION OF THE 3000GT MATTERS LIKE LIFE AND DEATH:run:
....seriously, i never beleived it to be this drastic but:
as ive stated b4 in norcal threads, my car went back to stock since im going to be selling it soon.....all ive got is a comptech ice-box.....couple nights ago i drive around with a few buddies and meet up with these fools on : 3000gt vr4, eclipse gsx, and 04 honda accord v6 auto.... guys were really cool and asked me if i wanted to run them...i agreed...i raced the vr4 (mods: exhaust) from 2nd gear three times and would pull at least 3-4 cars on him by mid/end of 4th....no joke:eek: then we went again from a stop and he had me by a car 1st and 2nd (launching it btw) and i would still reel him in by 3rd and pass him by 4th gear....
then i race this accord: 3 runs and each time i would pull on him much slower than the vr4...........
i knew either something was very wrong with the mitsu or it was a beat up pos...
so yeah, not saying i would even stand a chance against a properly maintained adn driven one...........but the condition of it REALLY matters..
vladirsx
01-14-2007, 07:08 PM
just to make sure i wasnt going crazy, i called up a buddy of mine on a 96 stealth tt(properly maintained and lightly modded) that same night and we went for a couple runs:
he walked the shit out of me:laughing:
releived, i drove home...:)
gag23118
01-14-2007, 10:28 PM
i believe you bro i'm new here but i can tell you can even take those eclipses 02-05 v6, rx-8, 03-05 wrx (not the sti) they range on 220 hp+...
MyCarGoesVroom
01-15-2007, 03:04 AM
not trying to thread jack but let me just point out that:
THE CONDITION OF THE 3000GT MATTERS LIKE LIFE AND DEATH:run:
....seriously, i never beleived it to be this drastic but:
as ive stated b4 in norcal threads, my car went back to stock since im going to be selling it soon.....all ive got is a comptech ice-box.....couple nights ago i drive around with a few buddies and meet up with these fools on : 3000gt vr4, eclipse gsx, and 04 honda accord v6 auto.... guys were really cool and asked me if i wanted to run them...i agreed...i raced the vr4 (mods: exhaust) from 2nd gear three times and would pull at least 3-4 cars on him by mid/end of 4th....no joke:eek: then we went again from a stop and he had me by a car 1st and 2nd (launching it btw) and i would still reel him in by 3rd and pass him by 4th gear....
then i race this accord: 3 runs and each time i would pull on him much slower than the vr4...........
i knew either something was very wrong with the mitsu or it was a beat up pos...
so yeah, not saying i would even stand a chance against a properly maintained adn driven one...........but the condition of it REALLY matters..
:bsflag: There's no way you could've beat that Accord when it was in 3rd gear VTEC. :giggitygiggity:
95rtturbo
01-15-2007, 07:32 AM
All 94+ 3k's and stealths have dual exhaust.
I don't think that is completely true. All 3000GT's, and Stealth RT/TT's have dual exhaust (of course not true dual exhaust), all years. I am nearly positive, the 94+ base model Stealth's only have a single exhaust, and only the 95-96 RT's (non turbos) have dual exhaust.
0-60 in 8.5
1/4 mile in 16.40
Those NA times are probably for for the auto (which still seems slower than it should be), which are a more than a second slower in the 1/4 mile than the 5 speeds. A properly driven 5 speed SL or DOHC base 3000GT (which is actually lighter than the SL), should be in the mid to low 15 seconds stock. The RSX Type S is a tad quicker.
MyCarGoesVroom
01-15-2007, 09:13 AM
I don't think that is completely true. All 3000GT's, and Stealth RT/TT's have dual exhaust (of course not true dual exhaust), all years. I am nearly positive, the 94+ base model Stealth's only have a single exhaust, and only the 95-96 RT's (non turbos) have dual exhaust.
Those NA times are probably for for the auto (which still seems slower than it should be), which are a more than a second slower in the 1/4 mile than the 5 speeds. A properly driven 5 speed SL or DOHC base 3000GT (which is actually lighter than the SL), should be in the mid to low 15 seconds stock. The RSX Type S is a tad quicker.
Evo 16g? Are you going with the 9's 16g? 10.5 hotside and larger housing.
95rtturbo
01-15-2007, 09:48 AM
Evo 16g? Are you going with the 9's 16g? 10.5 hotside and larger housing.
Actually I'm not sure if it's the same turbo that's in the EVO 8 or 9. Does the 9 come with a different turbo than the 8?
The Tech-1
01-15-2007, 10:03 AM
:bsflag: There's no way you could've beat that Accord when it was in 3rd gear VTEC. :giggitygiggity:
True. When coupled with the V2 it's known to disband solar systems (see pluto's loss of planetary status)
Kibwe Walker
01-15-2007, 10:10 AM
Actually I'm not sure if it's the same turbo that's in the EVO 8 or 9. Does the 9 come with a different turbo than the 8?
IIRC the later model 8's and the MR have the 10.5 hotside as do the 9's.
95rtturbo
01-15-2007, 10:14 AM
IIRC the later model 8's and the MR have the 10.5 hotside as do the 9's.
Thanks Kibwe Walker, that's good to know. You post on 3si a lot, correct? You always seem to have a lot of good info in your posts. :)
MyCarGoesVroom
01-15-2007, 12:17 PM
True. When coupled with the V2 it's known to disband solar systems (see pluto's loss of planetary status)
Blame Hondas for Pluto's loss.
IIRC the later model 8's and the MR have the 10.5 hotside as do the 9's.
The 9s also come with a larger compressor housing.
Kibwe Walker
01-15-2007, 02:18 PM
Thanks Kibwe Walker, that's good to know. You post on 3si a lot, correct? You always seem to have a lot of good info in your posts. :)
Yes, thanks.
I am only going with 13t's. I still HATE LAG, lol . Some of the bolts for the stock FP are putting up a major fight though, so it will be PB blaster everyday for a week for them.
I will get it out this weekend, and then go with the solid mounts and turbos right after. Everything is sitting in my storage closet right now, I just need the time to do it. I have the pte 550 inj's in already as is the apexi NEO, so I have a base tune in and my boost is down to 12 psi for safety because the 550's are too much for the stock FP. Car still pulls pretty nice because of the additional timing though.
High 11's in the 115-120 area and I am good for a little while, then cosmetics.
ihatepotholes
01-15-2007, 02:22 PM
f@ck evo's 16G, we want 50trim+:laughing:
Kibwe Walker
01-15-2007, 02:26 PM
I don't think that is completely true. All 3000GT's, and Stealth RT/TT's have dual exhaust (of course not true dual exhaust), all years. I am nearly positive, the 94+ base model Stealth's only have a single exhaust, and only the 95-96 RT's (non turbos) have dual exhaust.
You sir are correct. I don't even think about the base models but they are there. I use to even have a base 95 stealth that I autocrossed (thing weighed nothing). Honestly though I wish they never made them.
They should have just made the vr4/rtTT models and left the base, SL, rt, and ES models out of the lineup. It was just competition for the eclipses anyways and today they just hurt the image of the 3s because they all LOOK the same to the untrained eye, and due to price you can't keep them out of the hands of people who should be driving civics in reality.
Even though you get them for relatively cheap, you really can't afford to treat them that way. They deserve premium fuel, and oil, as well as a high and strict level of maintenance. Then they run hard for a long time. My 93 has 172k+ miles on her, and STILL can crush cars right of the showroom floor. That thing has 300+ AWHP and has been pushing that for most of its life, and in a little will be over 400 AWHP.
Your car on the other hand will pushing over 500 AWHP when you get it all tuned. Good luck with that:)
I still hate lag though, so I won't go big until I can afford a 3.7 stroker and that 12-15k in just the motor and valvetrain is not happening any time soon. GOTTA KEEP THE WIFE HAPPY:thumbsup:
Kibwe Walker
01-15-2007, 02:34 PM
f@ck evo's 16G, we want 50trim+:laughing:
For vr4's and rt/tt's 16g's have a little different results. It comes with the TT setup and that extra litre of displacement.
So far the highest dyno for evoIII's is 660 AWHP (28 psi), and best time is 10.57 @ 135 at 30 psi .
There is only one guy running a 50 trim that I know of and he made 78x AWHP with spray. Has not made a pass at that power level yet.
All to say evoIII's are plenty on a 6g72. Over 500 AWHP on pump gas and over 600 on race gas with 10's and mid 130's traps.
www.3squicklist.com
ihatepotholes
01-15-2007, 02:40 PM
mr. curt brown? lol nobody knows his mod lists. nobody can dupricate it either... so... stock turbo running 10s is almost out of question.
ihatepotholes
01-15-2007, 02:42 PM
BB 50trim is THE best street use turbo... spools around 300rpm slower than stock turbo, 400+ on straight pump, no meth/alky. holds boost all the way pass 7000rpm. for evos im talking...
DavidIX
01-15-2007, 03:31 PM
As soon as you said it wasnt a Vr-4 I lost interest. You should of beat him regradless, those cars are boats and extremely Slow.
Better competition for them would be a Celica Gt or something lol.
Good kill( Assuming you won, I hope).
vladirsx
01-15-2007, 03:32 PM
:bsflag: There's no way you could've beat that Accord when it was in 3rd gear VTEC. :giggitygiggity:
:laughing: your forgetting i have 3rd gear vtaak too;)
vladirsx
01-15-2007, 03:34 PM
As soon as you said it wasnt a Vr-4 I lost interest. You should of beat him regradless, those cars are boats and extremely Slow.
Better competition for them would be a Celica Gt or something lol.
Good kill( Assuming you won, I hope).
try actually reading the thread? lol
DavidIX
01-15-2007, 03:39 PM
try actually reading the thread? lol
:shady:
Kibwe Walker
01-15-2007, 05:05 PM
BB 50trim is THE best street use turbo... spools around 300rpm slower than stock turbo, 400+ on straight pump, no meth/alky. holds boost all the way pass 7000rpm. for evos im talking...
no comment on that.
I can only say that it may be worse on a 6g72 being that each turbo would only be fed by 1 bank and 1.5 litres as opposed to a inline 4 with 2.0 litres.
tdo5's don't really kick in until 4500 rpms. Not a bad thing if you are racing but horrible if you daily drive the car. tdo4's spool up around 2700-3k rpms. With our exoticly long gearing lag can turn a fun car into a slug with a vtec on steroids type personality.
Nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, and then BOOOM you are at 20+ psi and 500+ AWHP, rocketing into the horizon.
I live for the low and midrange punch. I need just enough top end to keep most things away but my bottom end and the AWD launch (traction) is what makes these things a blast to drive, EVERY DAY.
MyCarGoesVroom
01-15-2007, 10:10 PM
:laughing: your forgetting i have 3rd gear vtaak too;)
But the RSX wasn't in the race. Of course it would decimate all with overnight parts from Japan.
vladirsx
01-16-2007, 12:18 AM
But the RSX wasn't in the race. Of course it would decimate all with overnight parts from Japan.
more like mexico:rotfl:
MyCarGoesVroom
01-16-2007, 12:23 AM
more like mexico:rotfl:
My car runs on rice, not beans. You think I drive a Ford Festiva or 88 Civic with bean burrito exhaust, chrome fender lining, and chrome hub caps?
ihatepotholes
01-16-2007, 12:24 AM
no comment on that.
I can only say that it may be worse on a 6g72 being that each turbo would only be fed by 1 bank and 1.5 litres as opposed to a inline 4 with 2.0 litres.
tdo5's don't really kick in until 4500 rpms. Not a bad thing if you are racing but horrible if you daily drive the car. tdo4's spool up around 2700-3k rpms. With our exoticly long gearing lag can turn a fun car into a slug with a vtec on steroids type personality.
Nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, and then BOOOM you are at 20+ psi and 500+ AWHP, rocketing into the horizon.
I live for the low and midrange punch. I need just enough top end to keep most things away but my bottom end and the AWD launch (traction) is what makes these things a blast to drive, EVERY DAY.
um... there r several different kinda 50trim turbos out. buschur n TTR's ball bearing spools REALLY fast. just a tad slower than the stockie. icic u live on lower to mid rpm. im so used to the way this car drives, i guess i don't mind being without power below 2300rpm lol.
MyCarGoesVroom
01-16-2007, 12:28 AM
um... there r several different kinda 50trim turbos out. buschur n TTR's ball bearing spools REALLY fast. just a tad slower than the stockie. icic u live on lower to mid rpm. im so used to the way this car drives, i guess i don't mind being without power below 2300rpm lol.
Blowzilla anyone?
ihatepotholes
01-16-2007, 12:40 AM
Blowzilla anyone?
that monster hair drier is almost the size of my toilet bowl:laughing: with that on its like driving a regular Lancer running on 3 cylinder through traffic... before u hit 20psi, gotta slam on the break, cause u'd be doin 100+ in residential :laughing:
peak boost comes at what? 6000rpm lol
MyCarGoesVroom
01-16-2007, 12:44 AM
that monster hair drier is almost the size of my toilet bowl:laughing: with that on its like driving a regular Lancer running on 3 cylinder through traffic... before u hit 20psi, gotta slam on the break, cause u'd be doin 100+ in residential :laughing:
peak boost comes at what? 6000rpm lol
Pretty much. :weeeeeeeeee:
Seriously though I'm still comtemplating a GT3071R, GT35R, or a 50 trim.
Where the hell did everyone go? Come back! I'm bored off my ass at work.
ihatepotholes
01-16-2007, 12:51 AM
Pretty much. :weeeeeeeeee:
Seriously though I'm still comtemplating a GT3071R, GT35R, or a 50 trim.
Where the hell did everyone go? Come back! I'm bored off my ass at work.
well is this car ur daily driver? GT3071R is arguebly one of the best turbo for circuit racing. HKS' shop car uses that exact turbo to set the record time in Tsukuba circuit, no other car came close touching that time. it flows about the same as a 50trim. which is 50lb/min, 30R is 53lb/min i believe... both r good for street use, it's just a lil more expensive. GT35R is a dangerous weapon! it flows the same as a GT40, 67lb/min, with a lil faster spooling time. my friend's evo with that gt35r set up ran 11.1 trapping 123mph on straight pump no meth/alky... so either one u go with is gonna be helluva faster than 99% of cars on the road :thumbsup:
good luck picking one :laughing:
MyCarGoesVroom
01-16-2007, 12:53 AM
well is this car ur daily driver? GT3071R is arguebly one of the best turbo for circuit racing. HKS' shop car uses that exactly turbo to set the record time in Tsukuba circuit, no other car came close touching that time. it flows about the same as a 50trim. which is 50lb/min... both r good for street use, it's just a lil more expensive. GT35R is a dangerous weapon! it flows the same as a GT40, 67lb/min, with a lil faster spooling time. my friend's evo with that gt35r set up ran 11.1 trapping 123mph on straight pump no meth/alky... so either one u go with is gonna be helluva faster than 99% of cars on the road :thumbsup:
good luck picking one :laughing:
I'm leaning towards the GT35R but I'm torn between that and the GT30. Does your friend have a stroker motor? If not, what RPM does he go full boost?
ihatepotholes
01-16-2007, 12:55 AM
how about a 20g lt9? direct bolt on, it still flows almost as good as a 50trim. at 47lb/ min its good for 400whp on pump.
ihatepotholes
01-16-2007, 12:58 AM
I'm leaning towards the GT35R but I'm torn between that and the GT30. Does your friend have a stroker motor? If not, what RPM does he go full boost?
no stroker, full spool is around 4700rpm... so it's not exactly the best one for street use. but then again, it DOES START spooling in lower rpm. so it's DEFINITELY doable for street use. on pump gas he is at 460whp.
MyCarGoesVroom
01-16-2007, 01:14 AM
Damn that late? I thought it was closer to 4K on our cars. Looks like GT3071 is for me!
Kibwe Walker
01-16-2007, 09:33 AM
um... there r several different kinda 50trim turbos out. buschur n TTR's ball bearing spools REALLY fast. just a tad slower than the stockie. icic u live on lower to mid rpm. im so used to the way this car drives, i guess i don't mind being without power below 2300rpm lol.
If you go to dynamic racing, even though they won't come out and state it, I believe their Dr800 kit is a twin 50 trim setup. They still spool up at 4k+ and you can just different turbine setups for spool vs top end.
Our gearing is a good deal longer than yours, so lag is more profound in our cars because you have to wait that much longer to get into your spool rpm area. 2300 rpms for you is not even idling in our cars. 4k rpms is close to 2k rpms, if you are getting the picture of mph vs gear vs rpm. At 7k rpms in 3rd this thing can pull 120 mph, fuel cut is 7300 rpms so you can get more out of each gear.
I shift in the 6600-7k area though. In a 3rd gear that pulls 120 at 7k rpms means you are doing 60 at 3500 rpms. Can you see that 3rd gear pull, if the spool area doesn't start until 4500 rpms, means you are doing over 70 mph before your real power kicks in.
Without the turbos this thing is nothing more than a low compression 3.0 litre v6, making 200 hp or less and worse yet pushing it to all 4 wheels. I know I got this car in particular because it didn't and doesn't feel like a turbocharged car. It feels more like a small v8 than anything else making 315 lbs of tq at just 2500 rpms. If I am going to change the power band for more topend by sacrificing my bottom end it makes no FINANCIAL sense to do it in this car.
To modify a import is expensive but to modify this one is on another level since it is a exclusive market for the most part. If all I cared about was top end and speed I would have bought a 2nd gen GSX and been modifying that for 1/3 to 1/2 the price it would cost to modify this one, with 1 turbo vs 2, more parts available and more competition in the market. Better yet if all I cared about was the 1320 I would have a late 80's stang and just run through a Jegs, or summit catalog and call it a day. SO MUCH cheaper to modify domestic.
Anyways if you look at my sig you will see that I get as much stuff from the DSM, and evo crowd as possible. My Hallmans came from MachV, my DSM SMIC's came from a couple of 1st gen DSM's and was welded up by a EVO/DSM guru, my K&N is for a 2nd gen DSM (bigger yet cheaper), even the turbos that are going on are the 13t's for the wrx modified to fit my car. I am putting the performance of my car through a magnifier.
Improving without compromising anything. More topend without sacrificing my bottom end, better handling without sacrificing my ride, better cooling without changing the bumper (looks stock), etc, etc. My car looks stock for the most part, even when you pop the hood, but it doesn't run that way.
ihatepotholes
01-16-2007, 10:22 AM
120 in third... wow my gears r really damn short, my fourth tops out around 113-115. u r right the trade off of spooling faster is top end, especially for my car. i was wondering if u were gonna stay with the twin set up or a big single.
ihatepotholes
01-16-2007, 10:27 AM
Damn that late? I thought it was closer to 4K on our cars. Looks like GT3071 is for me!
he has an evo8, mivec should help us a lil. oh yea... get Revolver cams if u can. :laughing:
GT3071 is more ideal if u wanna do straight pump or pump+meth/alky. 35Rs don't shine on pump gas... the best results on 35R is C16.
Kibwe Walker
01-16-2007, 10:55 AM
120 in third... wow my gears r really damn short, my fourth tops out around 113-115. u r right the trade off of spooling faster is top end, especially for my car. i was wondering if u were gonna stay with the twin set up or a big single.
Twins for now.
Only single worth anything is being produced by IPS motorsports. IF you check 3si, there is a guy on there that goes by the name of Hillbillyhomeboy. His car has a single GT42r setup on it.
It dynoed 85x AWHP at 28 psi , and has already made a few mid and low 10 passes at 140+. Very stout. He says the single setup reduced a lot of clutter in the engine bay but no pics until IPS is ready to ship them out for sale.
Single may be cheaper but for a V style motor a twin setup is better IMO. For inline setups a single will work best. Besides I am not power crazy yet. I just want a measely 400-430 on pump gas and I can get that with a solid 17-18 psi on 93 octane with 13t's.
MyCarGoesVroom
01-16-2007, 11:44 PM
he has an evo8, mivec should help us a lil. oh yea... get Revolver cams if u can. :laughing:
GT3071 is more ideal if u wanna do straight pump or pump+meth/alky. 35Rs don't shine on pump gas... the best results on 35R is C16.
If I really want the GT35R, I'll go with the JUN stroker kit. :p
Twins for now.
Only single worth anything is being produced by IPS motorsports. IF you check 3si, there is a guy on there that goes by the name of Hillbillyhomeboy. His car has a single GT42r setup on it.
It dynoed 85x AWHP at 28 psi , and has already made a few mid and low 10 passes at 140+. Very stout. He says the single setup reduced a lot of clutter in the engine bay but no pics until IPS is ready to ship them out for sale.
Single may be cheaper but for a V style motor a twin setup is better IMO. For inline setups a single will work best. Besides I am not power crazy yet. I just want a measely 400-430 on pump gas and I can get that with a solid 17-18 psi on 93 octane with 13t's.
I agree that a twin turbo set up makes more sense on a V configuration motor than say an inline. All runners can feed into the turbo quite nicely on an inline but a V not so much. Many of the Zs I've seen are also running a 16g twin turbo set up.
k20a2typer
05-23-2007, 01:04 AM
my friend used to have a 3000gt ... one of the fastest non turbo 3000gt's on the east coast (3si.org)... anyway it had a fully refurbished engine with some head work and an exhaust.. needless ot say it sat on coilovers that pretty much did nothing for performance\... we went on 40 mph rolls and it took me twice.. bur for regular 3000gts with high mileage they arnt that fast anymore..
Gotboost98
05-23-2007, 01:12 AM
my friend used to have a 3000gt ... one of the fastest non turbo 3000gt's on the east coast (3si.org)... anyway it had a fully refurbished engine with some head work and an exhaust.. needless ot say it sat on coilovers that pretty much did nothing for performance\... we went on 40 mph rolls and it took me twice.. bur for regular 3000gts with high mileage they arnt that fast anymore..
you just bumped a almost 4 month old thread
vladirsx
05-23-2007, 04:28 AM
whyyyyyyyyy?:crying:
why must somebody always have to do that?
its so gay:shakehead
W1lson
05-23-2007, 11:01 AM
bump
vladirsx
05-23-2007, 02:58 PM
ok, fuck it:
bump.......price reduced:thumbsup:
dc5jimbo
02-04-2008, 06:18 PM
0-60 in 8.5
1/4 mile in 16.40
3000SL is WEAK.
that slow damn
Gotboost98
02-04-2008, 06:23 PM
nice job bumping an old thread.
dc5jimbo
02-04-2008, 06:23 PM
nice job bumping an old thread.
anytime:thumbsup:
Gotboost98
02-04-2008, 06:30 PM
anytime:thumbsup:
GTFO noob, check neg when off rep lock:shakehead
TYPEzachS
02-04-2008, 06:56 PM
GTFO noob, check neg when off rep lock:shakehead
:wavey:Don't forget about me :wavey:
Gotboost98
02-04-2008, 07:00 PM
:rotfl:
dc5jimbo
02-05-2008, 06:27 PM
GTFO noob, check neg when off rep lock:shakehead
oh god im gunna cry u neg reped me stop bitchin and
http://i32.tinypic.com/eughmp.jpg
fuzzyjenkins
02-05-2008, 06:34 PM
oh god im gunna cry u neg reped me stop bitchin and
http://i32.tinypic.com/eughmp.jpg
Oh boy......:rolleyes:
DesiRSX
02-06-2008, 05:00 PM
I remember I raced a non-vr4 and we were pretty much even...gave me a honk and a farewell at end...good fella
prrnrngr
02-07-2008, 04:10 PM
There is some old guy by my house who has a 3000gt non vr4 and is always driving like a dickwad ie. on a 2 lane stoplight that merges to 1 at the other side of the intersection he gets in the right turn lane and somehow outruns people in his 5000 lb beast. so whenever i come across this 65 year old stuck in high school i have a little fun too and will pace him etc.
htotheizo
02-08-2008, 12:06 PM
this was like the first or second thread i ever started. its really weird to see it pop up again.
RSX02boosted
08-23-2008, 12:09 AM
non boosted 3000GT's and 300ZX's are slow unless boosted. RSX's are faster stock:giggity:
AWD s0n
08-23-2008, 09:50 AM
non boosted 3000GT's and 300ZX's are slow unless boosted. RSX's are faster stock:giggity:
no they are not, they are slow as shit
DarkMatter
08-23-2008, 09:53 AM
no they are not, they are slow as shit
:iamwiths:
BlackSS
08-23-2008, 10:02 AM
non boosted 3000GT's and 300ZX's are slow unless boosted. RSX's are faster stock:giggity:
Same for rsx's.
Oh wait....they're slow boosted too :laughing:
Machina
08-23-2008, 10:46 AM
Every car ever is slow. My car runs 6s in the 1/4 which means I can call whatever car in the world slow. Veyrons can eat my corn-filled feces for all I care. SRT-4s give you more bang for your buck than any car ever made. RSXs are overpriced pieces of garbage, so slow why do people buy them, they look like chick cars. FWD is for fools. America makes the best cars ever. No car is better than the Z06, it's even better than the ZR1. Supercharged e46 M3s can trap 200 mph no problem. I like the plaid interior of my car. S4s are the most reliable cars ever built. The STi can drift better than a Supra. GT-R is Godzilla. The GT-R cheated. Rick Astley, lolcat, and so on.
Shipwr3K
08-23-2008, 11:59 AM
oh god im gunna cry u neg reped me stop bitchin and
http://i32.tinypic.com/eughmp.jpg
lol
Shipwr3K
08-23-2008, 12:01 PM
non boosted 3000GT's and 300ZX's are slow unless boosted. RSX's are faster stock:giggity:
maybe faster than a base 3000gt, but not a dohc.
VSR17PA
08-23-2008, 12:08 PM
3000 gt's are nice looking and sound great but i had a feeling they are slow pieces of shit . . . what do you expect from a mitsubishi
AWD s0n
08-23-2008, 12:12 PM
3000 gt's are nice looking and sound great but i had a feeling they are slow pieces of shit . . . what do you expect from a mitsubishi
i expect a stock evo to beat your modded car
DarkMatter
08-23-2008, 12:15 PM
Every car ever is slow. My car runs 6s in the 1/4 which means I can call whatever car in the world slow. Veyrons can eat my corn-filled feces for all I care. SRT-4s give you more bang for your buck than any car ever made. RSXs are overpriced pieces of garbage, so slow why do people buy them, they look like chick cars. FWD is for fools. America makes the best cars ever. No car is better than the Z06, it's even better than the ZR1. Supercharged e46 M3s can trap 200 mph no problem. I like the plaid interior of my car. S4s are the most reliable cars ever built. The STi can drift better than a Supra. GT-R is Godzilla. The GT-R cheated. Rick Astley, lolcat, and so on.
lol.
I'd rep you. but, well, youknow.
Shipwr3K
08-23-2008, 12:15 PM
haha vr4's r not slow. They just carry a lot of unnecessary shit like tunable exhaust, aero spoiler and ecs suspension, they r also hard 2 modified cuz it involves a lot of custom work most companies dont make shit for them; but its worthed cuz u dont see a clean 3000gt everyday.
Shipwr3K
08-23-2008, 12:16 PM
i expect a stock evo to beat your modded car
lol a 92 galant vr4 will walk his ass. i want that car so bad, shit is rare as hell.
non boosted 3000GT's and 300ZX's are slow unless boosted. RSX's are faster stock:giggity:
the rsx must be your first car lol
3000 gt's are nice looking and sound great but i had a feeling they are slow pieces of shit . . . what do you expect from a mitsubishi
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r275/nitemarecr3w/0817081752b.jpg
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r275/nitemarecr3w/0823080939.jpg
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r275/nitemarecr3w/0823080940a.jpg
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r275/nitemarecr3w/0823080941.jpg
im expecting this slow mitsu to beat you when its done:wavey:
Gotboost98
08-23-2008, 08:34 PM
non boosted 3000GT's and 300ZX's are slow unless boosted. RSX's are faster stock:giggity:
Than a 3000gt yes, 300zx no. Stop bumping old threads you stupid dickmo.
Gotboost98
08-23-2008, 08:36 PM
Every car ever is slow. My car runs 6s in the 1/4 which means I can call whatever car in the world slow. Veyrons can eat my corn-filled feces for all I care. SRT-4s give you more bang for your buck than any car ever made. RSXs are overpriced pieces of garbage, so slow why do people buy them, they look like chick cars. FWD is for fools. America makes the best cars ever. No car is better than the Z06, it's even better than the ZR1. Supercharged e46 M3s can trap 200 mph no problem. I like the plaid interior of my car. S4s are the most reliable cars ever built. The STi can drift better than a Supra. GT-R is Godzilla. The GT-R cheated. Rick Astley, lolcat, and so on.
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
3000 gt's are nice looking and sound great but i had a feeling they are slow pieces of shit . . . what do you expect from a mitsubishi
evo's and dsm's own your life
i expect a stock evo to beat your modded car
:laughing::laughing::laughing:
5_Lug_B
08-23-2008, 08:54 PM
Nice kill
Shipwr3K
08-23-2008, 10:06 PM
the rsx must be your first car lol
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r275/nitemarecr3w/0817081752b.jpg
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r275/nitemarecr3w/0823080939.jpg
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r275/nitemarecr3w/0823080940a.jpg
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r275/nitemarecr3w/0823080941.jpg
im expecting this slow mitsu to beat you when its done:wavey:
that shit looks like a fucking monster :bow:. what turbo and how much boost r u running?
Shipwr3K
08-23-2008, 10:08 PM
Than a 3000gt yes, 300zx no. Stop bumping old threads you stupid dickmo.
a stock 3000gt SL should be able to get a stock rsx-s. a 3000gt base is a slow pos.
Shipwr3K
08-23-2008, 10:10 PM
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
evo's and dsm's own your life
:laughing::laughing::laughing:
QFT.
So many ppl dont know shit bout mitsubishi's. lol
Shipwr3K
08-23-2008, 10:13 PM
lol a n/a 3000gt is a lot slower than a type S, and a type S is dogshit slow. POS 200hp cars
there r 2 n/a 3000gt the sohc and dohc.
Shipwr3K
08-23-2008, 10:17 PM
Okay, I will get a real car, thanks for the advice buddy your r like awesome!
AWD s0n
08-23-2008, 10:17 PM
Yeah, they are both dogshit slow. Even the twin turbo VR4 is low 14 second car because its so fucking heavy.
Mitshitbishi FTL rice FTL get a real car
again i bet your car is some gay ass cobalt ls:noes::noes::noes:
that shit looks like a fucking monster :bow:. what turbo and how much boost r u running?
thanks:bow: right now it has a 20g on it but its leaking oil on the exhust side. im going to get a 16g for right now from a friend.
right now i have it set on stock boost since the car isnt tuned yet. running on stock tune ftl. its cool though since im not even driving it at the moment. ima wait till i get the other turbo in and i take it to get tuned before i start driving it
Gotboost98
08-24-2008, 12:17 PM
a stock 3000gt SL should be able to get a stock rsx-s. a 3000gt base is a slow pos.
I dont agree 100% with that statement, I ran 14.7@96mph with my 04 type S stock. However thats not the norm for a type s. I still think any 3000gt thats not a vr4 is a pos. Just my opinion. :beerchug:
Shipwr3K
08-25-2008, 12:44 PM
I see from where ya r coming but the SL should be able to get into the 14's unless its got a shitty driver. There r a couple of SL on the 10s and 11s. I ran 14.7 with my rsx a while back I had only cai. I havent taken the vr4 to the track yet, it should be in the 13s after taking some extra weight out.
boostedNB
07-15-2009, 02:54 PM
not trying to thread jack but let me just point out that:
THE CONDITION OF THE 3000GT MATTERS LIKE LIFE AND DEATH:run:
....seriously, i never beleived it to be this drastic but:
as ive stated b4 in norcal threads, my car went back to stock since im going to be selling it soon.....all ive got is a comptech ice-box.....couple nights ago i drive around with a few buddies and meet up with these fools on : 3000gt vr4, eclipse gsx, and 04 honda accord v6 auto.... guys were really cool and asked me if i wanted to run them...i agreed...i raced the vr4 (mods: exhaust) from 2nd gear three times and would pull at least 3-4 cars on him by mid/end of 4th....no joke:eek: then we went again from a stop and he had me by a car 1st and 2nd (launching it btw) and i would still reel him in by 3rd and pass him by 4th gear....
then i race this accord: 3 runs and each time i would pull on him much slower than the vr4...........
i knew either something was very wrong with the mitsu or it was a beat up pos...
so yeah, not saying i would even stand a chance against a properly maintained adn driven one...........but the condition of it REALLY matters..
Dis man speaks de troof
Sour Diesel
07-15-2009, 02:59 PM
Dis man speaks de troof
:rotfl::rotfl:
i would edit that post if i were you. :shady:
Gotboost98
07-15-2009, 04:37 PM
oh lord
boostedNB
07-15-2009, 04:38 PM
:coffee: whats going on in here guyths:coffee:
Gotboost98
07-15-2009, 04:39 PM
you bumping old threads to raise your post count for starters
boostedNB
07-15-2009, 04:40 PM
We need OG members like ihatepotholes, kibwe, and all the others in this thread to start posting in "vs all" again. This place is going down the toilet without the OG members:(
I miss 04-05:(
Gotboost98
07-15-2009, 04:41 PM
If I recall Ihatepotholes got away from the car scene last I spoke with him on aim. Which was 3 years ago or so
boostedNB
07-15-2009, 04:43 PM
you bumping old threads to raise your post count for starters
I could honestly give a fuck about my post count. I wouldn't mind if someone re-set it actually.
If I recall Ihatepotholes got away from the car scene last I spoke with him on aim. Which was 3 years ago or so
Eh. At least you, hump, and a couple others are still here:o
You remember Wickdmonkey and Alexf20c? :rotfl: that was some funny shit
Gotboost98
07-15-2009, 05:02 PM
I could honestly give a fuck about my post count. I wouldn't mind if someone re-set it actually.
Eh. At least you, hump, and a couple others are still here:o
You remember Wickdmonkey and Alexf20c? :rotfl: that was some funny shit
I was joking about the post count thing. :p
Yeah I remember those guys. Threads went on forever.:laughing:
boostedNB
07-15-2009, 05:05 PM
lol 40+ pages:D
TheMagicalBra
07-15-2009, 07:06 PM
[dude are you dumb? can you read? it says straight up in like the first line "I pulled up next to a 3000gt and I noticed it was not a vr4"
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
dc5mike06
07-15-2009, 07:06 PM
no vid...no care...but nice run i guess
Arcticblue
07-15-2009, 07:39 PM
fuckin' christ...This thread was a fucking year old and was bumped...KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!
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