The Scion tC isn't a bad car after all :)

[Unxpectederror]

hey sup guys, the tC isnt a bad car at all

about 3 months back i was in the market for a car and i test drove just about everything under the sun including 3 RSX-S's. well the last place i decided to go was a Toyota dealership to go look a getting a tC and i left very impressed with everything the car offered for the price .i also thought the car looked really nice, its a very attractive car i think. the next day i had an appointment to test drive another rsx-s after test driving it i decided right then i wanted the tC instead. i went back to the Toyota dealership the next day and bought a 08 tC

while the tC is a great car stock it is slower overall and doesn't handle as good as the type-s. however the tC has much less road noise then an rsx and is a lot faster in the first 2 gears. its is sometimes hard to shift smoothly though, this is because there is to much slack in the clutch peddle on both sides(easily fixed). with the first 2 gears being really short you need to stay on top of your game but you get used to it after a while. regardless i still think its a better daily driver imho as it has more power down low where you usually need it driving around in normal situations.

now i ordered my car with the oem body kit , the TRD struts and shocks , lowering springs and TRD rear sway. i must say my car handles awesome now.it handles much better now then any of the rsx-s's i test drove and it still has a smother ride compared to them too:thumbsup:

i still absolutely love the rsx-s its an awesome car but for me the tC is just a much better daily driver and a better bang for my buck...... oo and there pretty awesome with a small bit of boost and have a huge aftermarket :D


pic of my tC right after i bought it
http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/personal/56360_3.jpg


and a nice engine shot of it now with new grill, TRD CIA... heck i think i get another 10 whp just from the TRD license plate alone ;) .. also have the TRD exhaust now too .. has a nice deep non-ricey sound to it:thumbsup:
http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/personal/56360_6.jpg

and one more for good luck lol
http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/personal/56360_5.jpg

[EJspoon]

cool car...it's capable of a lot of power through boost. 2.4 right? :thumbsup:

[killertofupanda]

lovely, nice car. asshole reputation. second to that of srt-4. at least the 2az-fe is reliable and boost friendly. better upgrade your suspension because tC's basically drive like a camry. obtw, please don't speed. this car has terrible high speed stability. too many cases on scionlife about people losing control on the highway. at least it's crash reliable.

[IntegraS]

eh...

[18psi]

um....good job with the purchase and nice looking scion you got there, but wtf is the point of this thread? just wondering, cause you dont see the rsx owners coming into scion forums talking how their cars are faster and better do you? just some food for thought

[DOHCtor]

man i thought this was a scion flaming thread :thumbsdow

i been tricked in here.

[18psi]

hahaha......well, you can flame him for making a pointless thread, but otherwise no

[killertofupanda]

http://images22.fotki.com/v754/photos/1/127099/1923196/ike_where_this_thread_is_going-vi.jpg

[18psi]

:run:

[Machina]

hey sup guys, the tC isnt a bad car at all

about 3 months back i was in the market for a car and i test drove just about everything under the sun including 3 RSX-S's. well the last place i decided to go was a Toyota dealership to go look a getting a tC and i left very impressed with everything the car offered for the price .i also thought the car looked really nice, its a very attractive car i think. the next day i had an appointment to test drive another rsx-s after test driving it i decided right then i wanted the tC instead. i went back to the Toyota dealership the next day and bought a 08 tC

while the tC is a great car stock it is slower overall and doesn't handle as good as the type-s. however the tC has much less road noise then an rsx and is a lot faster in the first 2 gears. its is sometimes hard to shift smoothly though, this is because there is to much slack in the clutch peddle on both sides(easily fixed). with the first 2 gears being really short you need to stay on top of your game but you get used to it after a while. regardless i still think its a better daily driver imho as it has more power down low where you usually need it driving around in normal situations.

now i ordered my car with the oem body kit , the TRD struts and shocks , lowering springs and TRD rear sway. i must say my car handles awesome now.it handles much better now then any of the rsx-s's i test drove and it still has a smother ride compared to them too:thumbsup:

i still absolutely love the rsx-s its an awesome car but for me the tC is just a much better daily driver and a better bang for my buck...... oo and there pretty awesome with a small bit of boost and have a huge aftermarket :D


pic of my tC right after i bought it
http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/personal/56360_3.jpg


and a nice engine shot of it now with new grill, TRD CIA... heck i think i get another 10 whp just from the TRD license plate alone ;) .. also have the TRD exhaust now too .. has a nice deep non-ricey sound to it:thumbsup:
http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/personal/56360_6.jpg

and one more for good luck lol
http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/personal/56360_5.jpg

You keep telling yourself that all this is true, pal. :rotfl:

[killertofupanda]

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[Unxpectederror]

lovely, nice car. asshole reputation. second to that of srt-4. at least the 2az-fe is reliable and boost friendly. better upgrade your suspension because tC's basically drive like a camry. obtw, please don't speed. this car has terrible high speed stability. too many cases on scionlife about people losing control on the highway. at least it's crash reliable.

yeah i already upgraded the suspension it handles awesome now but your right it does drive like a camry stock haha...but i don't have problems with car being stable at high speeds.. then again i dont have stock suspension. you are right about the assholes that own scions, half the guys i know from meets think there car is the best thing since sliced bread which i know its not .. i just look down and shake my head when they start acting like that.

um....good job with the purchase and nice looking scion you got there, but wtf is the point of this thread? just wondering, cause you dont see the rsx owners coming into scion forums talking how their cars are faster and better do you? just some food for thought


i don't think the tC is a better car then the RSX-S ether so please don't get me wrong. stock for stock the RSX-s is the better car hands down however for the money i was gonna spend on a 3-4 year old rsx-s i could get a brand new car right off the truck that was a great daily driver and thats what i was really looking for i guess... sometime speed isn't everything but i know if i ever want it the potential is there

btw i decided to make this thread because i miss this site and im a RSX-S enthusiasts no doubt... i didn't sign up to make this thread ive been here for a while, i love your cars :) . i also made it because i noticed everyone likes to flame this car and i actually think its mostly uncalled for. sure this car has its faults but most are easily corrected. its actually pretty nice car for the $$$... i guess its just them asshole owners that bring down its image

btw no need for flaming here keep it civil

[killertofupanda]

at the end of the day, they're all fail wheel drive cars.

[Machina]

yeah i already upgraded the suspension it handles awesome now but your right it does drive like a camry stock haha...but i don't have problems with car being stable at high speeds.. then again i dont have stock suspension. you are right about the assholes that own scions, half the guys i know from meets think there car is the best thing since sliced bread which i know its not .. i just look down and shake my head when they start acting like that.

i don't think the tC is a better car then the RSX-S ether so please don't get me wrong. stock for stock the RSX-s is the better enthusiasts car hands down however for the money i was gonna spend on a 3 year old rsx-s i could get a brand new car right off the truck that was a great daily driver and thats what i was really looking for i guess... sometime speed isn't everything but i know if i ever want it the potential is there

btw i just decided to make this thread because i miss this site and i also noticed everyone likes to flame this car and i actually think its mostly uncalled for. sure this car has its faults but most are easily corrected. its actually pretty nice car for the $$$... i guess its just them asshole owners that bring down its image

btw no need for flaming here keep it civil

There's a reason why the Type-S costs more used. Also, your car with upgraded TRD shocks and springs still can't outhandle a stock Type-S. Moreover, Acura offers a suspension upgrade to the Type-S that puts it even further above the tC.

As for them both being FWD- ITR > tons of RWD and AWD cars.

[Reloaded]

i would neg rep you but somehow..the reputation option is disabled right now...

[INNOVA]

Awesome! My wife's POS '04 camary has the same engine. lol

[Unxpectederror]

There's a reason why the Type-S costs more used. Also, your car with upgraded TRD shocks and springs still can't outhandle a stock Type-S. Moreover, Acura offers a suspension upgrade to the Type-S that puts it even further above the tC.

As for them both being FWD- ITR > tons of RWD and AWD cars.


o no doubt with upgrades the rsx would destroy my mild suspension setup tC but the tC actually takes extremely well to suspension mods.. more so then i initially thought myself. i would say it pretty much handles "atleast" on par with a stock rsx-s if not slightly better but its not worlds ahead... Stock the RSX-S is an great handling car for sure however the a stock tC's handling sucks balls

[wesessiah]

scion tc:
Zero to 30 mph: 2.4
40 mph: 3.8
50 mph: 5.3
60 mph: 7.4
70 mph: 9.7
80 mph: 12.6
90 mph: 16.4
100 mph: 20.9
110 mph: 28.4
Street start, 5-60 mph: 8.0

rsx-s
0-30 mph 2.3 s
0-40 mph 3.7 s
0-50 mph 5.0 s
0-60 mph 6.2 s
0-70 mph 8.5 s
0-80 mph 10.3 s
0-90 mph 13.3 s
0-100 mph 16.1 s
0-110 mph 19.2 s
Street Start, 5-60 mph 5.95 s

hmm... guess the tc makes a hole in the time/space continuum to make it faster in first and second gear but still shows slower clocked times in both gears.

[DOHCtor]

scion tc:
Zero to 30 mph: 2.4
40 mph: 3.8
50 mph: 5.3
60 mph: 7.4
70 mph: 9.7
80 mph: 12.6
90 mph: 16.4
100 mph: 20.9
110 mph: 28.4
Street start, 5-60 mph: 8.0

rsx-s
0-30 mph 2.3 s
0-40 mph 3.7 s
0-50 mph 5.0 s
0-60 mph 6.2 s
0-70 mph 8.5 s
0-80 mph 10.3 s
0-90 mph 13.3 s
0-100 mph 16.1 s
0-110 mph 19.2 s
Street Start, 5-60 mph 5.95 s

hmm... guess the tc makes a hole in the space/time continuum to make it faster in first and second gear but still shows slower clocked times in both gears.

wtf, with a rolling start the tc is actually slower going 0-60 :rotfl:

[wesessiah]

wtf, with a rolling start the tc is actually slower going 0-60 :rotfl:

lol... i was surprised by the rolling start too... that's from c&d btw.

[Machina]

I'll give you a scion tC with upgraded shocks and springs handling about as well as a stock Type-S with four people in it. If you wanted handling then you should've gone with a Celica GTS, though.

[Machina]

scion tc:
Zero to 30 mph: 2.4
40 mph: 3.8
50 mph: 5.3
60 mph: 7.4
70 mph: 9.7
80 mph: 12.6
90 mph: 16.4
100 mph: 20.9
110 mph: 28.4
Street start, 5-60 mph: 8.0

rsx-s
0-30 mph 2.3 s
0-40 mph 3.7 s
0-50 mph 5.0 s
0-60 mph 6.2 s
0-70 mph 8.5 s
0-80 mph 10.3 s
0-90 mph 13.3 s
0-100 mph 16.1 s
0-110 mph 19.2 s
Street Start, 5-60 mph 5.95 s

hmm... guess the tc makes a hole in the time/space continuum to make it faster in first and second gear but still shows slower clocked times in both gears.

Type-S gearing > Scion tC "torque" :rotfl:

[Machina]

Post some pics of the 98 Trans Am, though.

[IntegraS]

I'll give you a scion tC with upgraded shocks and springs handling about as well as a stock Type-S with four people in it. If you wanted handling then you should've gone with a Celica GTS, though.

it is sad that TC "replaced" the GTS

[Unxpectederror]

scion tc:
Zero to 30 mph: 2.4
40 mph: 3.8
50 mph: 5.3
60 mph: 7.4
70 mph: 9.7
80 mph: 12.6
90 mph: 16.4
100 mph: 20.9
110 mph: 28.4
Street start, 5-60 mph: 8.0

rsx-s
0-30 mph 2.3 s
0-40 mph 3.7 s
0-50 mph 5.0 s
0-60 mph 6.2 s
0-70 mph 8.5 s
0-80 mph 10.3 s
0-90 mph 13.3 s
0-100 mph 16.1 s
0-110 mph 19.2 s
Street Start, 5-60 mph 5.95 s

hmm... guess the tc makes a hole in the time/space continuum to make it faster in first and second gear but still shows slower clocked times in both gears.


well the butt dyno tells me its quicker in them gears lol.... hey it keeps up pretty well up till around 50 .... then it fails miserably

something seems fishy with them times though... aren't most people stock trapping in the low 90's?? so you guys run stock mid 13's to low 14's in the 1/4 mile haha


I'll give you a scion tC with upgraded shocks and springs handling about as well as a stock Type-S with four people in it. If you wanted handling then you should've gone with a Celica GTS, though.

btw i have a rear sway.. but your right though a tC with only upgraded shocks and springs doesn't out handle a type-S .. the sways are what the tC really needs.. that and some better tires

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/projectcars/0511scc_project_scion_tc_part_1/results.html

[Machina]

Tires are the single most important part of getting better handling. The new tires paid off well. Its suspension geometry is still lackluster.

[wesessiah]

well the butt dyno tells me its quicker in them gears lol.... hey it keeps up pretty well up till around 50 .... then it fails miserably

something seems fishy with them times though... aren't most people stock trapping in the low 90's?? so you guys run stock mid 13's to low 14's in the 1/4 mile haha




btw i have a rear sway.. but your right though a tC with only upgraded shocks and springs doesn't out handle a type-S .. the sways are what the tC really needs.. that and some better tires

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/projectcars/0511scc_project_scion_tc_part_1/results.html

0-90 is 13.3... but if you look at 0-100 it's 16.1... and the type s traps around 94-95, so it wouldn't be 13.3 according to those times... i think it was 14.8 in that particular scenario...

don't get me wrong, i'm not trying to bash your car though... i think they look great, and 2.4l is a great starting point. the tc also likes boost and i hear can easily handle 14ish psi... i'm sure there's a lot of room for cfm increase with headwork too.

[killertofupanda]

http://www.dragtimes.com/Acura-RSX-Timeslip-11455.html
1/4 Mile ET: 15.959
1/4 Mile MPH: 87.950
1/8 Mile ET: 10.268
1/8 Mile MPH: 68.430
0-60 Foot ET: 2.345
Temperature F: 70.0
Timeslip Scan:
Car Make: Acura
Car Model: RSX
Car Type: base
Car Year: 2002

http://www.dragtimes.com/Scion-tC-Timeslip-11461.html
1/4 Mile ET: 15.878
1/4 Mile MPH: 87.210
1/8 Mile ET: 10.245
1/8 Mile MPH: 68.660
0-60 Foot ET: 2.423
Temperature F: 0.0
Timeslip Scan:
Car Make: Scion
Car Model: tC
Car Type:
Car Year: 2006

i don't think a tC can compare to a type-s. a base model would be more appropriate in its category.

[Unxpectederror]

Tires are the single most important part of getting better handling. The new tires paid off well. Its suspension geometry is still lackluster.

and why would you say the geometry is lackluster back that up with facts?? i honestly would like to know why ... no hating or nuttin just wanna know why you think it is? im curious



i don't think a tC can compare to a type-s. a base model would be more in its category.

ooo i agree , i never said it could keep up with one other then in the lower gears, i know the type-s is a lot faster

the Rsx is a better car then the type-s to be compared with the tC

[wesessiah]

like someone else asked... pics of the t/a?

[MyCarGoesVroom]

and why would you say the geometry is lackluster back that up with facts?? i honestly would like to know why ... no hating or nuttin just wanna know why you think it is? im curious




ooo i agree , i never said it could keep up with one other then in the lower gears, i know the type-s is a lot faster

the Rsx is a better car then the type-s to be compared with the tC

Suspension geometry is designed and built based on the purpose of the car. Camber, caster, toe, etc etc all come in to play when it comes to ultimate grip. Some suspension systems out there do not want a fairly rigid and surgically precise response because a lot of times it's a trade off on comfort/ride quality. The tC was made to look sporty, but that's amount it. The car was never designed in any aspect to be a performance vehicle.

Another thing, this guy has managed to stay this cool up until this point. Either he's a really cool guy, or the asshole crew is losing focus. Shame on all of you.

Oh, I have to upholad my reputation; This thread reeks of fail.

[killertofupanda]

the tC's chassis is highly based off the toyota avensis while the rsx shares its design with the late ep3 civic. the greatest drawback about the tC's performance is that its chassis was not breed for the tracks to begin with. dc5 integra type-r and ep3 civic type-r performances trickled down to the lower models. so you see, the tC's potential does not match with what the rsx can achieve. it's also heavy to begin with.

[wesessiah]

Suspension geometry is designed and built based on the purpose of the car. Camber, caster, toe, etc etc all come in to play when it comes to ultimate grip. Some suspension systems out there do not want a fairly rigid and surgically precise response because a lot of times it's a trade off on comfort/ride quality. The tC was made to look sporty, but that's amount it. The car was never designed in any aspect to be a performance vehicle.

Another thing, this guy has managed to stay this cool up until this point. Either he's a really cool guy, or the asshole crew is losing focus. Shame on all of you.

Oh, I have to upholad my reputation; This thread reeks of fail.

:lawl: i think it's a little of both...

ben? :laughing:

[Unxpectederror]

like someone else asked... pics of the t/a?

ill do one better here is a walk around a rev vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk3WDVAhero


you see my tC is only my daily driver... daily driving is what the tC is good at ... i didn't need another fast car...

[wesessiah]

nice... why selling/trading? don't tell me you're getting rid of it and only keeping the tc.

[killertofupanda]

i will have to agree you really can't argue about a tC's luxury...

[Dubs03RSX]

with the first 2 gears being really short you need to stay on top of your game but you get used to it after a while.


yeh i have that problem in my sti.. my gears are short and IM NOT ON TOP OF MY GAME!

























:run::run::run::run::run::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rot fl::rotfl::rotfl:

[Unxpectederror]

nice... why selling/trading? don't tell me you're getting rid of it and only keeping the tc.


eh was thinking about it after all its just sitting around right now don't have much use for it in the snow... but thats actually from when i was gonna sell it and just get a type-s i need to edit my sig

i might keep it around though its a nice cruising / fun car for the summer especially with the tops down

[wesessiah]

sts turbo kit and it would be really fun.

[Game]

/life

[Gotboost98]

Suspension geometry is designed and built based on the purpose of the car. Camber, caster, toe, etc etc all come in to play when it comes to ultimate grip. Some suspension systems out there do not want a fairly rigid and surgically precise response because a lot of times it's a trade off on comfort/ride quality. The tC was made to look sporty, but that's amount it. The car was never designed in any aspect to be a performance vehicle.

Another thing, this guy has managed to stay this cool up until this point. Either he's a really cool guy, or the asshole crew is losing focus. Shame on all of you.
Oh, I have to upholad my reputation; This thread reeks of fail.
lol I wasnt around I just saw this
:lawl: i think it's a little of both...

ben? :laughing:

read above lol


This thread is fail. Rsx S will always own> tc. An thread starter your comparing your modded stock car from the factory to a STOCK SUSPENSION TYPE S. Epic fail.

[Dubs03RSX]

Epic fail.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/pirateneko/other%20crap/f8a930c6.jpg

[Gotboost98]

ill do one better here is a walk around a rev vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk3WDVAhero


you see my tC is only my daily driver... daily driving is what the tC is good at ... i didn't need another fast car...

um you need a fast car, both of your cars are slow. Just a bit of a news flash for you.:coffee: 13s and 12s isnt fast...........:yawn:

[wesessiah]

pictures of said fail? :laughing:

edit: guess i posted this a few seconds late, lol.

[MyCarGoesVroom]

lol I wasnt around I just saw this


read above lol


This thread is fail. Rsx S will always own> tc. An thread starter your comparing your modded stock car from the factory to a STOCK SUSPENSION TYPE S. Epic fail.

It's a good thing my 2nd in command takes full responsibility. As supreme dictator ruler your lordship, I'll forgive you... if you'll let me poop on your intercooler...

[Gotboost98]

It's a good thing my 2nd in command takes full responsibility. As supreme dictator ruler your lordship, I'll forgive you... if you'll let me poop on your intercooler...

andrew your killing me this morning:rotfl:

[Dubs03RSX]

It's a good thing my 2nd in command takes full responsibility. As supreme dictator ruler your lordship, I'll forgive you... if you'll let me poop on your intercooler...

THERE IS NO ROOM FOR YOUR INSOLENCE ..

http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/1188096596016.gif

[Unxpectederror]

An thread starter your comparing your modded stock car from the factory to a STOCK SUSPENSION TYPE S. Epic fail.

how is that fail, you guys should take that as a compliment since your cars handle so well with out having to do anything to them

and yes stock for stock the type-s will always own the tC

[MyCarGoesVroom]

andrew your killing me this morning:rotfl:

THERE IS NO ROOM FOR YOUR INSOLENCE ..

http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/1188096596016.gif

Instead of killing you, I'll let you live so you can explain to him how running around with the seal of epic fail and abusing the power can result in this young man's demise. His 300+ whp car may not be able to put the power to the ground... after the wheels go flying off because someone loosened all the lug nuts.. :shady: That's your job btw.

[Gotboost98]

It's a good thing my 2nd in command takes full responsibility. As supreme dictator ruler your lordship, I'll forgive you... if you'll let me poop on your intercooler...

how is that fail, you guys should take that as a compliment since your cars handle so well with out having to do anything to them

and yes stock for stock the type-s will always own the tC

I dont own a type s. It might be a compliment but it makes you look ridiculous comparing modded to stock an is going to get you flammed here in this section.

[Gotboost98]

Instead of killing you, I'll let you live so you can explain to him how running around with the seal of epic fail and abusing the power can result in this young man's demise. His 300+ whp car may not be able to put the power to the ground... after the wheels go flying off because someone loosened all the lug nuts.. :shady: That's your job btw.

:laughing::laughing::laughing:

[MyCarGoesVroom]

:laughing::laughing::laughing:

Make sure you grab the turbo and top mount as soon as the car stops. I hear I can make money from those parts... :chuck:

[Dubs03RSX]

Instead of killing you, I'll let you live so you can explain to him how running around with the seal of epic fail and abusing the power can result in this young man's demise. His 300+ whp car may not be able to put the power to the ground... after the wheels go flying off because someone loosened all the lug nuts.. :shady: That's your job btw.


THY SHALL NOT! Ben knows better

[Unxpectederror]

I dont own a type s. It might be a compliment but it makes you look ridiculous comparing modded to stock an is going to get you flammed here in this section.

how and why when im giving them a compliment on how great there car is, if there so egger to flame then thats fine but it just shows there maturity level about being able to have a reasonable thread about a car thats not of there own.

[Gotboost98]

how and why when im giving them a compliment on how great there car is, if there so egger to flame then thats fine but it just shows there maturity level about being able to have a reasonable thread about a car thats not of there own.

I dont personally care what they do. I like the tc actually. But we are the rsx vs all asshole crew an were not nice :) Im the founder:wavey:

If you take the net serious about someone bashing your tc then you have more issues than having two slow cars. :)

[Gotboost98]

oh an btw trapping 105 in a stock trans am with a ET of 13.4 you are a horrible drag racer. You should be ripping off 13.00s. Some have even done 12s :)

[MyCarGoesVroom]

I found my other time slip! yay party. I ran a 12.01 @ 111 mph. The time slip right after that says I ran a 21.48 @ 64 mph. My lower intercooler piping went boom just after the 60' mark. Something's not right when you see an integra fly up and pass you like he's John Force and he just ran a 16.

[wesessiah]

I dont personally care what they do. I like the tc actually. But we are the rsx vs all asshole crew an were not nice :) Im the founder:wavey:

If you take the net serious about someone bashing your tc then you have more issues than having two slow cars. :)

http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/internet_serious_businessmo.thumbnail.jpg

[Unxpectederror]

oh an btw trapping 105 in a stock trans am with a ET of 13.4 you are a horrible drag racer. You should be ripping off 13.00s. Some have even done 12s :)

naa thats a normal time / speed for a stock auto t/a ... maybe if i had some nice tires i could pull 12's , mine are a bit worn atm... and what skill its an auto you don't need skill just rev up and then gas it, thats it

[Gotboost98]

I found my other time slip! yay party. I ran a 12.01 @ 111 mph. The time slip right after that says I ran a 21.48 @ 64 mph. My lower intercooler piping went boom just after the 60' mark. Something's not right when you see an integra fly up and pass you like he's John Force and he just ran a 16.

thats a good time congrats on the 12.01 @111. LOL@ john force

[killertofupanda]

here's some reason this became a flame.
why this thread fails:

1. smiley face for thread title :)
that was already asking for it.

2. noob member
you're naturally flame bait.

3. posted in wrong section about car purchase
the RSX vs. All is usually reserved for racing and comparison. you would have been better off with the Auto related section or the off topic, General section. more flame invited.

4. defensiveness for neutrality and open discussion
that kinda talk attracts attention for assholeness.

5. comparing an nonhonda car to an honda car
hey, this is an rsx. it was bias to begin with.

[Gotboost98]

http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/internet_serious_businessmo.thumbnail.jpg

:laughing:

[Gotboost98]

naa thats a normal time / speed for a stock auto t/a ... maybe if i had some nice tires i could pull 12's , mine are a bit worn atm... and what skill its an auto you don't need skill just rev up and then gas it, thats it

I missed the a4 that you were auto my mistake, your correct. ATM? Ass to mouth!??!?!?!?! :noes:

[MyCarGoesVroom]

http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/internet_serious_businessmo.thumbnail.jpg

Hell yea! That little Thai prostitute learned her lesson the hard way about messing around with the internet business.

naa thats a normal time / speed for a stock auto t/a ... maybe if i had some nice tires i could pull 12's , mine are a bit worn atm... and what skill its an auto you don't need skill just rev up and then gas it, thats it

It takes a lot of skill. Before you even rev it up and gas it, you have to put a cowboy hat on over the mullet, get in the car without spilling the budweiser, then rev up, gas it, and get to the end but you have to make sure you've finished your beer and had dirty thoughts about your mother's brother's son's girlfriend who's your 1st cousin as well.

[killertofupanda]

http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/internet_serious_businessmo.thumbnail.jpg

http://www.ljplus.ru/img/l/o/lorellin/pedobear_seal.gif

[MyCarGoesVroom]

http://www.ljplus.ru/img/l/o/lorellin/pedobear_seal.gif

If there's never been grass on the field, play ball..................sacks in her mouth.

[Gotboost98]

Hell yea! That little Thai prostitute learned her lesson the hard way about messing around with the internet business.



It takes a lot of skill. Before you even rev it up and gas it, you have to put a cowboy hat on over the mullet, get in the car without spilling the budweiser, then rev up, gas it, and get to the end but you have to make sure you've finished your beer and had dirty thoughts about your mother's brother's son's girlfriend who's your 1st cousin as well.

:rotfl::rotfl:

[Gotboost98]

http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-2006/2006-Evolve-Volvo-C30-Concept-Wheel-1280x960.jpg

[wesessiah]

holy caliper batman!

[MyCarGoesVroom]

Damn crazy 20 pot calipers.

[Gotboost98]

Damn crazy 20 pot calipers.

14:rotfl:

[Dubs03RSX]

If there's never been grass on the field, play ball..................sacks in her mouth.


AFTER 12 IS LUNCH

[Gotboost98]

http://www.seriouswheels.com/cars/top-2006-Evolve-Volvo-C30-Concept.htm

[Unxpectederror]

here's some reason this became a flame.
why this thread fails:

1. smiley face for thread title :)
that was already asking for it.

2. noob member
you're naturally flame bait.

3. posted in wrong section about car purchase
the RSX vs. All is usually reserved for racing and comparison. you would have been better off with the Auto related section or the off topic, General section. more flame invited.

4. defensiveness for neutrality and open discussion
that kinda talk attracts attention for assholeness.

5. comparing an nonhonda car to an honda car
hey, this is an rsx. it was bias to begin with.

i guess your right on most behalfs so maybe a mod please could move this to a difference section then??

also that C30 is pretty slick

[Dubs03RSX]

The front caliper assembly consists of more than 100 components resulting in a 14-piston billet aluminum work of art. Rear calipers are six piston assemblies.

[MyCarGoesVroom]

14:rotfl:

Didn't that company make sure crazy ass 20 pot calipers? Pots are all the size of a damn dime.

AFTER 12 IS LUNCH

OoOOoO Ben he's calling you out! Fight behind the cafeteria!

[Gotboost98]

Didn't that company make sure crazy ass 20 pot calipers? Pots are all the size of a damn dime.



OoOOoO Ben he's calling you out! Fight behind the cafeteria!

Idk about the brakes .

LOL no hes not

[MyCarGoesVroom]

maybe a mod please could move this to a difference section then??

The mods don't really come in here until there's some really nasty stuff going on. Just think of this as the Beirut of ClubRSX. If something goes really wrong, just bomb us.

[Gotboost98]

The mods don't really come in here until there's some really nasty stuff going on. Just think of this as the Beirut of ClubRSX. If something goes really wrong, just bomb us.

:rotfl:

[DOHCtor]

damn, thread has gone crazy. credit goes to ben. remember, i'm still your superior, member #-1

[Gotboost98]

damn, thread has gone crazy. credit goes to ben. remember, i'm still your superior, member #-1

:laughing: liessssssss lol

[03ssmrsx]

lol

[RavenDee]

hey sup guys, the tC isnt a bad car at all

about 3 months back i was in the market for a car and i test drove just about everything under the sun including 3 RSX-S's. well the last place i decided to go was a Toyota dealership to go look a getting a tC and i left very impressed with everything the car offered for the price .i also thought the car looked really nice, its a very attractive car i think. the next day i had an appointment to test drive another rsx-s after test driving it i decided right then i wanted the tC instead. i went back to the Toyota dealership the next day and bought a 08 tC

while the tC is a great car stock it is slower overall and doesn't handle as good as the type-s. however the tC has much less road noise then an rsx and is a lot faster in the first 2 gears. its is sometimes hard to shift smoothly though, this is because there is to much slack in the clutch peddle on both sides(easily fixed). with the first 2 gears being really short you need to stay on top of your game but you get used to it after a while. regardless i still think its a better daily driver imho as it has more power down low where you usually need it driving around in normal situations.

now i ordered my car with the oem body kit , the TRD struts and shocks , lowering springs and TRD rear sway. i must say my car handles awesome now.it handles much better now then any of the rsx-s's i test drove and it still has a smother ride compared to them too:thumbsup:

i still absolutely love the rsx-s its an awesome car but for me the tC is just a much better daily driver and a better bang for my buck...... oo and there pretty awesome with a small bit of boost and have a huge aftermarket :D


pic of my tC right after i bought it
http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/personal/56360_3.jpg


and a nice engine shot of it now with new grill, TRD CIA... heck i think i get another 10 whp just from the TRD license plate alone ;) .. also have the TRD exhaust now too .. has a nice deep non-ricey sound to it:thumbsup:
http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/personal/56360_6.jpg

and one more for good luck lol
http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/personal/56360_5.jpg

thats a type-r killah right there:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

[Unxpectederror]

thats a type-r killah right there:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

actually no its not

[RavenDee]

actually no its not

sorry i thought the :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: implied my sarcasm

[Unxpectederror]

sorry i thought the :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: implied my sarcasm

hell its a Z06 killer get it right :p;):rotfl:

[Matrix86]

nice pick up, I like Tc's a lot.. was thinking of getting one too... but they aren't faster then a type-s in any gear.... stock for stock...



Oh and btw where is the REP system!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :noes:

[Game]

nice pick up, I like Tc's a lot.. was thinking of getting one too... but they aren't faster then a type-s in any gear.... stock for stock...



Oh and btw where is the REP system!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :noes:

http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=535341

Even though I'm premy, I think it sucks.

[Gotboost98]

http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=535341

Even though I'm premy, I think it sucks.
finally someone agrees thats a premmie

[Machina]

and why would you say the geometry is lackluster back that up with facts?? i honestly would like to know why ... no hating or nuttin just wanna know why you think it is? im curious




ooo i agree , i never said it could keep up with one other then in the lower gears, i know the type-s is a lot faster

the Rsx is a better car then the type-s to be compared with the tC

I don't think you know what I mean when I say suspension geometry, in the first place. First of all, when you enter a turn, your car's suspension doesn't sit there, it moves around. Your back wheel outside wheel, for instance, when going around a corner should be gaining some negative camber, that is the bottom will turn out a little bit to accommodate for the turn. Not all cars move around in the same way, suspension-wise. Some cars, like a a Corolla, for example, will barely budge at all. It's designed to sit still and provide the driver with a comfortable ride. The RSX's suspension geometry is designed to move a great deal more as it was designed to do so. It was built to corner well and compromise with its suspension. There's more to a suspension than shocks and springs. Heck, look at the rear suspension of a BMW e36 M3 and a Mustang. Notice anything? One's built for corners, one's built for handling loads of power. The independent rear suspension is what makes the e36 M3 handle so well, not springs and shocks that make it a little closer to the ground and firm up the ride a little.

There's really a lot more to a suspension than you might think. You should read up on it to realize what holds back some cars and what gives others better potential. This is the key difference between the handling characteristics of the RSX and the tC. The RSX was built to corner better, and it does. Its suspension moves better to pull the car around a turn better.

The example you posted was of a car that got not only tires that grip better, but wider tires as well, front and back, and it got coilovers, which are extremely aggressive replacements for your stock suspension's springs and shocks. It also got some additional chassis braces.

I respect your car very much, but if I went around showing off a Civic in an NSX forum asking for people to acknowledge it, or if I went around showing off an NSX in a Civic forum, I'd consider myself a complete jerk for spending my time wiggling my dick around on the internet, the place where somebody always has a better car anyway.

[BlackSS]

Should of bought D1SC procharger, cam, 6.0L heads, stall, and the other supporting mods for the T/A. The scion is a great car if you aren't into performance/speed and it will be your only car. Performance car, it is not. I hope you didn't buy the car for a DD to save $$ from driving the T/A. The extra car and insurance payment are not worth the 5 or so mpg you're saving with the Tc.

naa thats a normal time / speed for a stock auto t/a ... maybe if i had some nice tires i could pull 12's , mine are a bit worn atm... and what skill its an auto you don't need skill just rev up and then gas it, thats it

Ya....autos are so easy to launch :rolleyes: . My car is fairly mild in the f-body world, you should try and launch it sometime!

[SentraSER2RSX]

I think I might trade in my porsche now for scion that writeup was so sweeet! :thumbsup:

[Unxpectederror]

I don't think you know what I mean when I say suspension geometry, in the first place. First of all, when you enter a turn, your car's suspension doesn't sit there, it moves around. Your back wheel outside wheel, for instance, when going around a corner should be gaining some negative camber, that is the bottom will turn out a little bit to accommodate for the turn. Not all cars move around in the same way, suspension-wise. Some cars, like a a Corolla, for example, will barely budge at all. It's designed to sit still and provide the driver with a comfortable ride. The RSX's suspension geometry is designed to move a great deal more as it was designed to do so. It was built to corner well and compromise with its suspension. There's more to a suspension than shocks and springs. Heck, look at the rear suspension of a BMW e36 M3 and a Mustang. Notice anything? One's built for corners, one's built for handling loads of power. The independent rear suspension is what makes the e36 M3 handle so well, not springs and shocks that make it a little closer to the ground and firm up the ride a little.

There's really a lot more to a suspension than you might think. You should read up on it to realize what holds back some cars and what gives others better potential. This is the key difference between the handling characteristics of the RSX and the tC. The RSX was built to corner better, and it does. Its suspension moves better to pull the car around a turn better.

The example you posted was of a car that got not only tires that grip better, but wider tires as well, front and back, and it got coilovers, which are extremely aggressive replacements for your stock suspension's springs and shocks. It also got some additional chassis braces.

I respect your car very much, but if I went around showing off a Civic in an NSX forum asking for people to acknowledge it, or if I went around showing off an NSX in a Civic forum, I'd consider myself a complete jerk for spending my time wiggling my dick around on the internet, the place where somebody always has a better car anyway.



well all i know is that the tc has independent suspension... the car is just set up really bad stock thus why they have trd options .. the settings that they have on there coilovers are pretty close to my trd setup they however have the hotchkis front and rear sways. i only have the TRD rear sway which is not as stiff and yes they have much better tires then me...but if you look around the tC always places very high at time attack and autox events

Toyota is starting to offer some great options for these cars this year they have added TRD coilovers and TRD LSD

Should of bought D1SC procharger, cam, 6.0L heads, stall, and the other supporting mods for the T/A. The scion is a great car if you aren't into performance/speed and it will be your only car. Performance car, it is not. I hope you didn't buy the car for a DD to save $$ from driving the T/A. The extra car and insurance payment are not worth the 5 or so mpg you're saving with the Tc.



Ya....autos are so easy to launch :rolleyes: . My car is fairly mild in the f-body world, you should try and launch it sometime!

well i bought the tC as a daily driver and im not looking for speed in it. i do however like spirited corning thus the suspension stuff... also its about 6-7 mpg and the tC uses regular not premuim so another 20-30 cents in my pocket every gallon too.... and the insurance on the trans am is much much higher, full coverage on my tC is cheaper then just liability for my trans am .. ill be saving 1-2k a year driving the tC i don't know about you but thats a lot of money to me

and yes its not as easy as i made it sound to launch a high hp auto but its a bit simpler then a stick thats all

[BlackSS]

Please explain to me how adding a $17000 car, another insurance bill, and only getting 6 mpg more (when mine was stock i averaged 19mpg, when I had my tC I averaged 23mpg) is saving you money in the long run? The idea of a DD to SAVE money is getting a little $500-$1000 car that is almost nothing on insurance and get's 30+mpg. All three of the latter the tC is NOT. Now if you just wanted another car to drive, sure, whatever floats your boat. But don't fool yourself that you are saving money in the long run.

[CoLdSuN GSR]

ya the only way your saving money is REPLACING the car with something thats cheaper in gas and insurance. Because like others have said...your just adding another insurance bill/car payment and another car to feed gas too. :laughat:

[Blown330]

i would neg rep you but somehow..the reputation option is disabled right now...


No real mystery here...:dontknow:

[mateo]

Crap car. Nothing but crap. Just sitting in it will make you not want one.

[Matrix86]

http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=535341

Even though I'm premy, I think it sucks.

finally someone agrees thats a premmie

that sucks super bad...

I liked the rep system... helped point out the retards and the people who knew what they were talking about...... and I had a lot :D
:pray: bring back the rep.. I don't have $50buxs to blow on that...

[Blown330]

ya the only way your saving money is REPLACING the car with something thats cheaper in gas and insurance. Because like others have said...your just adding another insurance bill/car payment and another car to feed gas too. :laughat:


Not entirely true. Depending on how you go about it you can buy a cheap DD and the total cost is STILL cheaper than the cost of gas and regular maintenance of the other vehicle. Wouldn't buy a brand new car but you can find good used car that costs practically nothing to insure and run. My DD is a 1995 Maxima that cost all of $2,500 with 90K on the clock. Insurance is only $30/month and an oil change in only $11 every 5,000 miles....perfect beater really...:D

[BlackSS]

So let's say your saving $2000 a year on gas with your new car v. just the T/A. So if you put $5000 down on this car it would take two and a half years to justify the upfront financial burden of this purchase. Then, another 2-3 years before you would actually becoming ahead with the extra payments. And that's not including the interest on the car loan that you are throwing away since you already had one vehicle that I'm assuming was already paid for.

You are not looking at the whole picture. Yes, you will save money on gas and maybe a little on maitnence. But the OVERALL expense will be more and will take quite a few years before you break out even. And I'm willing to bet you probably won't even have the tC by year 5-6 anymore.

[KillaICM]

Grats on the car, I am actually liking the style now. My sis might get one also. You have any plans on putting a s/c on it?

[orangekeebler]

oh lookie, a cute girl car. weeeeeeeeeee.

tc's = fail.

[18psi]

holy crap, this thread just skyrocketed:run:
nice entertainment for this morning before we go to the snow;)
the winnar for most hilarious is by far mycargoesvroom though:rotfl:
ben is the runner up:laughing:

[RavenDee]

nice pick up, I like Tc's a lot.. was thinking of getting one too... but they aren't faster then a type-s in any gear.... stock for stock...



Oh and btw where is the REP system!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :noes:


chris dye needs to change the rep fluid in his magical CRSx machine.

i think its on back order:p

[Machina]

well all i know is that the tc has independent suspension... the car is just set up really bad stock thus why they have trd options .. the settings that they have on there coilovers are pretty close to my trd setup they however have the hotchkis front and rear sways. i only have the TRD rear sway which is not as stiff and yes they have much better tires then me...but if you look around the tC always places very high at time attack and autox events

Toyota is starting to offer some great options for these cars this year they have added TRD coilovers and TRD LSDl

Like I said, you clearly don't understand what I mean by suspension geometry. Read this:

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/tech/0711_sccp_2008_subaru_impreza_suspension/index.html

Then you'll see what I mean. ...Hopefully. :shakehead

[Machina]

http://images.sportcompactcarweb.com/tech/0711_sccp_22_z_+2008_subaru_impreza+new_suspension .jpg


http://images.sportcompactcarweb.com/tech/0711_sccp_23_z_+2008_subaru_impreza+old_suspension .jpg

See how they are DIFFERENT? Please read the whole article and educate yourself.

[18psi]

is that a wrx suspension pic i see on the lower pic? :)

[Machina]

New WRX on top, old on bottom.

[MyCarGoesVroom]

damn, thread has gone crazy. credit goes to ben. remember, i'm still your superior, member #-1

The negative part distorts the space time continuum and you may not survive without the ultra protective Type-R flux capacitor. I call dibs on his Evo.

[Machina]

Speaking of which, he actually wins the Batmobile in the future from Taco Bell, which I claim now as it will be transported to the present day in exactly 9.8 hours due to the disruption of the space time continuum.

[MyCarGoesVroom]

Speaking of which, he actually wins the Batmobile in the future from Taco Bell, which I claim now as it will be transported to the present day in exactly 9.8 hours due to the disruption of the space time continuum.

Bringing the Batmobile back to present times will end the world. I call dibs on being Legend so I can yell at manikins. Peter is that you? WTF are you doing there? If you're real, you better tell me! Wait what? You bought a tC and you're extremely happy with it? I hope the zombie/dracula things pwn you with their vtak.

[Machina]

Hunting deer from the window of a tC is my favorite pastime...

[MyCarGoesVroom]

Make sure you have the TRD struts, springs, and sway beer to outhandle the deers.

[BlackSS]

Make sure you have the TRD struts, springs, and sway beer to outhandle the deers.

You said beer :drink::drink::drink:

[MyCarGoesVroom]

You said beer :drink::drink::drink:

Beer, I can haz one.

[Unxpectederror]

Like I said, you clearly don't understand what I mean by suspension geometry. Read this:

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/tech/0711_sccp_2008_subaru_impreza_suspension/index.html

Then you'll see what I mean. ...Hopefully. :shakehead

well here is what the tC has for suspension maybe you could point out to me what it should have? its suspension and braking system is taken from the celica ... whats so bad about that? i always thought the celica had better suspension then even the rsx

- It uses a torsionally rigid unit-body chassis.

- It uses a MacPherson strut front suspension, with a full subframe that supports the suspension links for stable handling.

- The double wishbone rear suspension is mostly derived from the late celica. A-shaped control arms and rigid upper arms connected to the subframe provide low unsprung weight.

- The stock spring rate in the front is 25.5 N/mm. The TRD springs provide 29.8 N/mm.

- The stock spring rate in the rear is 45 N/mm. The TRD springs provide 57 N/mm.

- There are 3 lateral reinforcement braces not found on cars in this class. They run across the rear floor deck, and in front of and behind the rear suspension to reduce overall flex.



ya the only way your saving money is REPLACING the car with something thats cheaper in gas and insurance. Because like others have said...your just adding another insurance bill/car payment and another car to feed gas too. :laughat:

well i don't have to pay extra insurance or gas because the other car is off the road... and no im not making any car payments ether i own both straight out
so between the savings on gas and the insurance i make out pretty good

[Axix23]

good looking car.. :) Toyota did good...

[Machina]

well here is what the tC has for suspension maybe you could point out to me what it should have? its suspension and braking system is taken from the celica ... whats so bad about that? i always thought the celica had better suspension then even the rsx

- It uses a torsionally rigid unit-body chassis.

- It uses a MacPherson strut front suspension, with a full subframe that supports the suspension links for stable handling.

- The double wishbone rear suspension is mostly derived from the late celica. A-shaped control arms and rigid upper arms connected to the subframe provide low unsprung weight.

- The stock spring rate in the front is 25.5 N/mm. The TRD springs provide 29.8 N/mm.

- The stock spring rate in the rear is 45 N/mm. The TRD springs provide 57 N/mm.

- There are 3 lateral reinforcement braces not found on cars in this class. They run across the rear floor deck, and in front of and behind the rear suspension to reduce overall flex.





well i don't have to pay extra insurance or gas because the other car is off the road... and no im not making any car payments ether i own both straight out
so between the savings on gas and the insurance i make out pretty good

Like I said, you don't understand. Look at the two WRX comparisons. See how though they're the same setup, they work completely differently? One's clearly better? Do you see this? Does this make sense to you? Do you now understand how the new setup stomps the old one? Can you please tell me what you don't get here? The suspension moves around to deal with curves differently! It's that simple. Your suspension geometry doesn't move like the Type-S's does, not at all, that's why it doesn't handle well. And the Celica has much more potential because it's simply so freaking light. God, it's not astrophysics here, look at the diagrams in the pictures in that link, PLEASE, and try to understand how much differently the old and new WRX suspension works and apply that to how your car is worse at handling than, say, an Evo.

[Machina]

Okay, I'm going to try and explain it...


Suppose you have two cars. They have identical weights to them. They have identical tires. They both use MacPherson struts in the front and double wishbones in the rear.

Now, they go around a corner. One is able to hold higher lateral gs through the turn than the other. How is this possible? One car turns out its wheels better to adjust to going around the corner.

http://i.a.cnn.net/nascar/.element/img/2.0/sect/kyn/101/glossary/camber.gif


Some cars can do this (above) better than others. Better either means it's more suited for the car, or it just simply allows for greater camber change, et cetera. Some cars simply are not built to be put around the track, in fact most cars are not. This means that shocks and springs will lower a car a bit, and help it slightly, but the car is still working with the same suspension geometry, it's just lower to the ground so the wheels squat out a little more normally, so when it gets to a corner the wheels are already in place for the weight of the car shifting to the side.

This is the primary issue with the tC's suspension. It was never designed to corner like some cars, and bolt-ons will never make up for that difference. It's still severely limited by its geometry. This is how cars like an old 1995 BMW M3 are such great handlers, not "because its rwd lololol" like a bunch of fanboys out there think, but because the rear suspension was designed brilliantly to handle a corner. It's a work of art! This is also why the Integra Type-R does so well in corners, because it was essentially built to corner. This is also why the FC3S doesn't handle as well as the FD3S, because of the changes made to the geometry that mimic the changes between the previous generation WRX and the new generation WRX. Again, look at the pictures in that article, they're a side-by-side comparison of the old and new suspension on the WRX... it shows how slightly different parts move completely differently to adjust for a turn, and that's why the new WRX, though uglier, is a giant step forward in the world of handling.

[Unxpectederror]

Like I said, you don't understand. Look at the two WRX comparisons. See how though they're the same setup, they work completely differently? One's clearly better? Do you see this? Does this make sense to you? Do you now understand how the new setup stomps the old one? Can you please tell me what you don't get here? The suspension moves around to deal with curves differently! It's that simple. Your suspension geometry doesn't move like the Type-S's does, not at all, that's why it doesn't handle well. And the Celica has much more potential because it's simply so freaking light. God, it's not astrophysics here, look at the diagrams in the pictures in that link, PLEASE, and try to understand how much differently the old and new WRX suspension works and apply that to how your car is worse at handling than, say, an Evo.

i never said that my car could out handle a evo lol..

btw thanks for trying to explain it in :)

though from what i know and learned ... Double wishbone > multi-link > McPherson

doesnt the rsx use just McPherson set up?

[killertofupanda]

i never said that my car could out handle a evo lol..

btw thanks for trying to explain it in :)

though from what i know and learned ... Double wishbone > multi-link > McPherson

doesnt the rsx use just McPherson set up?

you apparently need to learn how to research...

[Unxpectederror]

you apparently need to learn how to research...

my bad the fronts are a Control-Link MacPherson Strut and the rear is a compact double wish bone... like i said i never knocked the rsx its an awesome handling car and awesome car all together :bowdown: stock for stock the tc is not the better car at all, it is however cheaper for me as a DD

[XxXpornstarXxX]

my bad the fronts are a Control-Link MacPherson Strut and the rear is a compact double wish bone... like i said i never knocked the rsx its an awesome handling car and awesome car all together :bowdown: stock for stock the tc is not the better car at all, it is however cheaper for me as a DD

damn wtf is wrong with you? why are you even in this club? does this look like club tc to you?:firemad: i f@@ken hate tc.:mad:

[MugsyTheGr8]

my bad the fronts are a Control-Link MacPherson Strut and the rear is a compact double wish bone... like i said i never knocked the rsx its an awesome handling car and awesome car all together :bowdown: stock for stock the tc is not the better car at all, it is however cheaper for me as a DD

you missed what he was trying to say. while both the tc and rsx do use a mcpherson setup, the rsx setup was made to adjust mid corner while the tc setup was not. that simple:)

[Unxpectederror]

you missed what he was trying to say. while both the tc and rsx do use a mcpherson setup, the rsx setup was made to adjust mid corner while the tc setup was not. that simple:)

there we go... so what allows it to adjust ? just wondering

thanks

damn wtf is wrong with you? why are you even in this club? does this look like club tc to you?:firemad: i f@@ken hate tc.:mad:

hate all you want....i used to be a rsx owner when i was younger... i owned it before my e36 bmw 328i

the car got hit and totaled so took the money and bought the bmw... then my bmw got hit and totaled and i bought the trans am and kept the extra money that was left over.... and now i have a tc... and btw nether of the accidents were my fault i just have bad luck :(

the rsx was a 02 black auto base... only had it for about 8 months:thumbsdow
but always like that car alot i just got a amazing deal on the bmw thats why i didnt get another one... i always wanted to get a type-s thats why i went and looked at them when i went shopping for cars.. but i realized that for me the tC was a more practical car

[Machina]

The way Honda engineers built it.

But again you're STILL missing it. Read my post, two cars with the same setup, that is, imagine two cars with MStruts in the front and DWishbones in the rear. But one still handles better. Why is this? Just ponder how this is a possibility, okay?

[MugsyTheGr8]

there we go... so what allows it to adjust ? just wondering

thanks

a few things. control arm angle, shock angle, shock length... the hard part is knowing how all that will effect the chassis and what things to change to make it balanced and handle as well as it can. the link mach posted was a good example of that.

[Gotboost98]

i never said that my car could out handle a evo lol..

btw thanks for trying to explain it in :)

though from what i know and learned ... Double wishbone > multi-link > McPherson

doesnt the rsx use just McPherson set up?

bmw uses mcpherson................ going to say the corvettes suspension sucks next because it uses the old leaf style suspension?

[Unxpectederror]

bmw uses mcpherson................ going to say the corvettes suspension sucks next because it uses the old leaf style suspension?

actually most bmw's use multilink

[BlackSS]

well i don't have to pay extra insurance or gas because the other car is off the road... and no im not making any car payments ether i own both straight out
so between the savings on gas and the insurance i make out pretty good

You still aren't getting it. Even if you are saving $5000 a year because of less gas and insurance, you are still waiting AT LEAST 3 years before your purchase of the car is justifiable as far as saving money goes. If you just bought it to have another car, then good for you. But please stop believing you are saving money by buying the tC.

Also....you outright paid for a 2008 tC but your T/A remained stock? :shakehead Do the performance world a favor and sell your T/A to someone that will actually use it and have fun with it! Hell, since it's off the road and won't be driven, I'll take it off your hands.

[DC5BO]

clean looking tC

[Gotboost98]

actually most bmw's use multilink

they still use them so you saying MOST doesnt really matter. An im aware whats used. They still use mcpherson.........your point is moot:)

[imbest123]

well to start off, very nice looking tC. its not a bad looking car at all and definately has the aftermarket support to help back it up but the car just seems sooo slow. my friend with a tC rs2.0 gutted his car, including bumper reinforcment and airbags, put on a megan racing header, s pipe, 2.5" megan racing exhaust, trd cai, agency pullies, trd shocks, trd springs, trd strut bar, hotchkis rsb, optima redtop (i know that and the next mod dont count but its funny =P), and a grounding kit and he tried taking me when i only had my cai.

first we went to the weigh station where i weighed in at 2870 with my sound system and full interior, as well as a bunch of school stuff (like books) and he weighed in at 2810 completely gutted. after that we went from a stop onto the freeway and i hit 110 and he was car lengths behind me. the tC is an amazing show car but nothing else.

2 door saloon :p

[kramerbuccs24]

tC=good looking car/slow as hell

RSX-S=good looking car/pretty fast




/thread

[ScOoTLy]

tC=good looking car/slow as hell

RSX-S=good looking car/slow but not slow as hell




/thread

Fixed :thumbsup:

[kramerbuccs24]

Fixed :thumbsup:

:chuck:

you picky son of a bitch;)



when compared to a tC, an RSX is a twin turbo F430.

[distrachi]

Okay, I'm going to try and explain it...


Suppose you have two cars. They have identical weights to them. They have identical tires. They both use MacPherson struts in the front and double wishbones in the rear.

Now, they go around a corner. One is able to hold higher lateral gs through the turn than the other. How is this possible? One car turns out its wheels better to adjust to going around the corner.

http://i.a.cnn.net/nascar/.element/img/2.0/sect/kyn/101/glossary/camber.gif


Some cars can do this (above) better than others. Better either means it's more suited for the car, or it just simply allows for greater camber change, et cetera. Some cars simply are not built to be put around the track, in fact most cars are not. This means that shocks and springs will lower a car a bit, and help it slightly, but the car is still working with the same suspension geometry, it's just lower to the ground so the wheels squat out a little more normally, so when it gets to a corner the wheels are already in place for the weight of the car shifting to the side.

This is the primary issue with the tC's suspension. It was never designed to corner like some cars, and bolt-ons will never make up for that difference. It's still severely limited by its geometry. This is how cars like an old 1995 BMW M3 are such great handlers, not "because its rwd lololol" like a bunch of fanboys out there think, but because the rear suspension was designed brilliantly to handle a corner. It's a work of art! This is also why the Integra Type-R does so well in corners, because it was essentially built to corner. This is also why the FC3S doesn't handle as well as the FD3S, because of the changes made to the geometry that mimic the changes between the previous generation WRX and the new generation WRX. Again, look at the pictures in that article, they're a side-by-side comparison of the old and new suspension on the WRX... it shows how slightly different parts move completely differently to adjust for a turn, and that's why the new WRX, though uglier, is a giant step forward in the world of handling.

The same can be said about the RSX's suspension being limited by its geometry. There's a reason why Comptech/Spoon prefer the TSX over the RSX for competition use. I believe I read somewhere that Spoon even prefers the little Honda Fit over the DC5.

Here's the link where Spoon's president talks why the TSX (CL7）is a better platform than the (DC5). (http://asia.vtec.net/article/Spoon2/index.html) Pay attention to the part where he says the DC5 platform is closely related to the Honda Stream (http://www.km77.com/marcas/honda/stream_01/med/3-4del.jpg) Minivan platform. So anyone saying anything about the tC being based on Camry/Avensis and therefore it can't perform well doesn't know the roots of the DC5 platform.

[Gotboost98]

:chuck:

you picky son of a bitch;)



when compared to a tC, an RSX is a twin turbo F430.

that is a horrible comparison an not even close............ Its more like the
Srt4 vs Rsx S comparison.

[killertofupanda]

The same can be said about the RSX's suspension being limited by its geometry. There's a reason why Comptech/Spoon prefer the TSX over the RSX for competition use. I believe I read somewhere that Spoon even prefers the little Honda Fit over the DC5.

Here's the link where Spoon's president talks why the TSX (CL7）is a better platform than the (DC5). (http://asia.vtec.net/article/Spoon2/index.html) Pay attention to the part where he says the DC5 platform is closely related to the Honda Stream (http://www.km77.com/marcas/honda/stream_01/med/3-4del.jpg) Minivan platform. So anyone saying anything about the tC being based on Camry/Avensis and therefore it can't perform well doesn't know the roots of the DC5 platform.

the tC's chassis is highly based off the toyota avensis while the rsx shares its design with the late ep3 civic. the greatest drawback about the tC's performance is that its chassis was not breed for the tracks to begin with. dc5 integra type-r and ep3 civic type-r performances trickled down to the lower models. so you see, the tC's potential does not match with what the rsx can achieve. it's also heavy to begin with.

the question is, how closely related is the Stream Minivan to that of the DC5/EP3? it might have been the perfect platform honda choosed to make the rsx and civic si from, suitable for the track because of versatility. the tC is not the case because it's very much a Avensis but made with two doors and jazzed with hip-hop gadgets. the tC was made with the idea of customizing features, more of a show car than actual performance. it can still do drag racing but limited in auto X. and like the Avensis, the tC was designed to drive comfortably, not trashing. i know because those tC's are very unstable at high speeds, and every other week, you can literally read an thread on scionlife.com how someone in a tC will lose control in steering, spin their car, and crash while driving on the highway.

of course, the RSX and ep3 civic si is related to many other cars like the honda CR-V and the accord. you are right that sharing platforms does not mean the cars in them are the same in driving, but modifications are made to accommodate to what they're expected to perform. think of it like evolution.

there's another car that very much falls into the similar pitfall like the tC. the 4th gen. mitsubishi eclipse performs (nonspeed wise) very blatantly. do you know why though? it's because it's a galant with two doors and in different sheet metal. it rides like a galant because the two cars' share the same platform and are chassis wise very similar. perhaps it would have been fine if mitsubishi had designed around the platform, but the car just doesn't show it. it is also somewhat unstable in high speeds.

there are cars that are made as sports cars. some are made more sporty than others, and there are those primarily made to look sporty.

[wesessiah]

The same can be said about the RSX's suspension being limited by its geometry. There's a reason why Comptech/Spoon prefer the TSX over the RSX for competition use. I believe I read somewhere that Spoon even prefers the little Honda Fit over the DC5.

Here's the link where Spoon's president talks why the TSX (CL7）is a better platform than the (DC5). (http://asia.vtec.net/article/Spoon2/index.html) Pay attention to the part where he says the DC5 platform is closely related to the Honda Stream (http://www.km77.com/marcas/honda/stream_01/med/3-4del.jpg) Minivan platform. So anyone saying anything about the tC being based on Camry/Avensis and therefore it can't perform well doesn't know the roots of the DC5 platform.

that doesn't say anything to indicate they share the same suspension or chassis components... about the only thing is the fact they have k20's, and this statement

"However the DC5 was specifically designed from scatch (using the same base as the Stream though) to be an all-out FF performance coupe"

it looks like it's indicating they may have used a few similar features, but does say it was made from scratch. the only thing that's probably the same, and deters spoon from wanting to use the dc5 is the front macpherson strut.

it would have been nice though, if the dc5 would have had double wishbone in the front.

[Gotboost98]

It would be nice to rob a bank but I dont see any of you wanting to help

[killertofupanda]

It would be nice to rob a bank but I dont see any of you wanting to help

my fear of going to jail and getting anally rape prevents me from accompanying you with the crime. i love money, but i love to keep my butt clean and happy.

[18psi]

:inout:

[HotRSX21]

welcome, congrats on the purchase....

now gtfo CRSX..this isn't a scion forum

btw, check neg

[Gotboost98]

my fear of going to jail and getting anally rape prevents me from accompanying you with the crime. i love money, but i love to keep my butt clean and happy.

Hey, whats this jail you speak of? I have the getaway car, ill be driving, we wont get caught:giggitygiggity:

[Gotboost98]

welcome, congrats on the purchase....

now gtfo CRSX..this isn't a scion forum

btw, check neg

:rotfl: id rep you for that but im not a premmie lol

[wesessiah]

i'm in... as long as you're still in the 11's we can get away with a quickness :shady:

[HotRSX21]

:rotfl: id rep you for that but im not a premmie lol

go premy and rep me dammit :D

[distrachi]

there are cars that are made as sports cars. some are made more sporty than others, and there are those primarily made to look sporty.

All based on opinion since there's no concrete definition of what constitutes an actual sporty car versus a car made to only look sporty.

To me tC and RSX basically in same group. . . sporty grocery getters.

[18psi]

a sporty car is at least one that doesnt still run 15's after installing an optional supercharger:rotfl:

[XxXpornstarXxX]

welcome, congrats on the purchase....

now gtfo CRSX..this isn't a scion forum

btw, check neg

:iamwiths::lawl:
ill rep you put i dont know how.

[HotRSX21]

:iamwiths::lawl:
ill rep you put i dont know how.

you gotta be premy, lol

[Gotboost98]

haha sean im not paying 5 bucks just to rep you. You can although still rep me if you want :p

[DOHCtor]

i'm not a premium member but for some odd reasin i can still have a sigpic :laughing:

[Gotboost98]

i'm not a premium member but for some odd reasin i can still have a sigpic :laughing:

fucking bastard :rotfl:

[HotRSX21]

haha sean im not paying 5 bucks just to rep you. You can although still rep me if you want :p

b00...ok, ill rep ya :)

i'm not a premium member but for some odd reasin i can still have a sigpic :laughing:

you keep your sig pic when you get rid of premy, which is pretty cool...however, you can't change it..you have to go premy in order to do that

[Gotboost98]

b00...ok, ill rep ya :)



you keep your sig pic when you get rid of premy, which is pretty cool...however, you can't change it..you have to go premy in order to do that

I might be joining premmie I was talked into it I think lulz

[HotRSX21]

I might be joining premmie I was talked into it I think lulz

do it...then rep me :D

[Gotboost98]

do it...then rep me :D

I will :p

[HotRSX21]

I will :p

:thumbsup:

now....waiting for my rep :coffee:

:laughing:

[NOLAtypeS]

boost that car and you'll STILL lose to a NA near stock type s

[Gotboost98]

boost that car and you'll STILL lose to a NA near stock type s

a turbo tc on 7psi will walk the shit out of a NA rsx. They run 12.4s Check neg when im off lock

[03ssmrsx]

i think he was implying the TRD s/c kit

[Machina]

a turbo tc on 7psi will walk the shit out of a NA rsx. They run 12.4s Check neg when im off lock

I thought they ran 4.21's.

[MugsyTheGr8]

All based on opinion since there's no concrete definition of what constitutes an actual sporty car versus a car made to only look sporty.

To me tC and RSX basically in same group. . . sporty grocery getters.

are you basing that on their stock performance?

[18psi]

:coffee:

[MyCarGoesVroom]

My car's faster.

[BlackSS614]

the tc is a pathetic excuse for a sport compact car. both cars in my signature have walked all over them with the optional centrifugal supercharger. boost does not make them any less pathetic.
/flame

[ODUB]

scion TC's suck. it's a nice car if you're a 17 year old girl... but if it were a popular 17 year old girl or at least one with better taste, she'd be in a new civic, or an RSX...or even a Fit

[peewee27]

I Still Rather Stay With My Rsx-s

[18psi]

the tc is a pathetic excuse for a sport compact car. both cars in my signature have walked all over them with the optional centrifugal supercharger. boost does not make them any less pathetic.
/flame
i hope you only mean s/c boost....cause when you turbo those things they get quick....damn quick....quick enough to take a shit on a bolt on cobalt for sure....
once you go turbo on those things, and turn the boost up a little 14+psi, although its still gay and has fail wheel drive, it holds its own agains other fwd econoboxes...
scion TC's suck. it's a nice car if you're a 17 year old girl... but if it were a popular 17 year old girl or at least one with better taste, she'd be in a new civic, or an RSX...or even a Fit
thats a retarded comment....how is the scion any worse than the civic or fit or even rsx base for that matter? please explain
for a 17 yo girl who doesnt give a sht about performance, the scion is a great car. period...what about the fit and civic makes them better huh? if you say they suck cause of looks, well looks are subjective...some will say your evo looks like a peice of diahrreal shit, but does that mean it is? well ill let you decide.

[MyCarGoesVroom]

i hope you only mean s/c boost....cause when you turbo those things they get quick....damn quick....quick enough to take a shit on a bolt on cobalt for sure....
once you go turbo on those things, and turn the boost up a little 14+psi, although its still gay and has fail wheel drive, it holds its own agains other fwd econoboxes...

thats a retarded comment....how is the scion any worse than the civic or fit or even rsx base for that matter? please explain
for a 17 yo girl who doesnt give a sht about performance, the scion is a great car. period...what about the fit and civic makes them better huh? if you say they suck cause of looks, well looks are subjective...some will say your evo looks like a peice of diahrreal shit, but does that mean it is? well ill let you decide.

You take that back you slut. Say it ain't so!

P.S. The WRX looks like sharted diarrheal backdoor bandit rectal ravaging shit.

[18psi]

:rotfl:

[MyCarGoesVroom]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zbgm6dplW4&feature=related

I win. There's me in my F-18 hornet beating civic.

[18psi]

oh shit, :rotfl::lawl: that is awesome

[ODUB]

i hope you only mean s/c boost....cause when you turbo those things they get quick....damn quick....quick enough to take a shit on a bolt on cobalt for sure....
once you go turbo on those things, and turn the boost up a little 14+psi, although its still gay and has fail wheel drive, it holds its own agains other fwd econoboxes...

thats a retarded comment....how is the scion any worse than the civic or fit or even rsx base for that matter? please explain
for a 17 yo girl who doesnt give a sht about performance, the scion is a great car. period...what about the fit and civic makes them better huh? if you say they suck cause of looks, well looks are subjective...some will say your evo looks like a peice of diahrreal shit, but does that mean it is? well ill let you decide.

i just don't like scion TC's. how about that? the comment i made was more of a joke than anything. didn't mean to upset the scion community. i'm not really concerned with what scion TC driver's say about my EVO. i didn't buy the EVO for the looks (although it does look badass), i bought it because it's fun to drive, and fast as hell. i also don't care what a scion TC driver thinks about the EVO because the EVO is hailed the world over as one of the best performance cars on the market. respected highly EVERYWHERE. the scion TC is respected highly by unpopular 17 year old girls.

[killertofupanda]

i just don't like scion TC's. how about that? the comment i made was more of a joke than anything. didn't mean to upset the scion community. i'm not really concerned with what scion TC driver's say about my EVO. i didn't buy the EVO for the looks (although it does look badass), i bought it because it's fun to drive, and fast as hell. i also don't care what a scion TC driver thinks about the EVO because the EVO is hailed the world over as one of the best performance cars on the market. respected highly EVERYWHERE. the scion TC is respected highly by unpopular 17 year old girls.

but i love those 17 year old girls. just barely illegal, the way i like them.
http://www.kupols.net/oldsite/pedobear.jpg

[MyCarGoesVroom]

It's pedobear!

[PN0YM0DE]

rsx>tc


rsx ftw

[18psi]

i just don't like scion TC's. how about that? the comment i made was more of a joke than anything. didn't mean to upset the scion community. i'm not really concerned with what scion TC driver's say about my EVO. i didn't buy the EVO for the looks (although it does look badass), i bought it because it's fun to drive, and fast as hell. i also don't care what a scion TC driver thinks about the EVO because the EVO is hailed the world over as one of the best performance cars on the market. respected highly EVERYWHERE. the scion TC is respected highly by unpopular 17 year old girls.

first of all, i am by no means a scion owner...just pointed out how retarded your post was. second of all, your fanboyism is so strong i suddenly want to throw up....here, let me bold the parts that make you look like a fanboi ass:thumbsup: that second to last bolded part almost took the cake with its "head up your own ass" fanboyism.
as far as scions go, they are respected by levelheaded various car owners for what it is: a nice little economy car that is great as a daily driver and a perfect car for a girl to drive, popular or not.....you try to hide the fact that you were a complete fucktard in that last post by playing it off as a "joke" :rolleyes: when everyone on here knows quite well that it wasnt....have a great day:wavey:

[ODUB]

first of all, i am by no means a scion owner...just pointed out how retarded your post was. second of all, your fanboyism is so strong i suddenly want to throw up....here, let me bold the parts that make you look like a fanboi ass:thumbsup: that second to last bolded part almost took the cake with its "head up your own ass" fanboyism.
as far as scions go, they are respected by levelheaded various car owners for what it is: a nice little economy car that is great as a daily driver and a perfect car for a girl to drive, popular or not.....you try to hide the fact that you were a complete fucktard in that last post by playing it off as a "joke" :rolleyes: when everyone on here knows quite well that it wasnt....have a great day:wavey:

even after all that, scion TC's are still crap. there's only a couple types of people who don't like EVO's. those that don't drive them, but wish they did, and those who get their asses handed to them by EVO's. which one are you?

[BlackSS]

even after all that, scion TC's are still crap. the only people that don't like EVO's are the ones who don't drive them and wish they did.

I don't think ANYONE in here has a problem with Evo's......just a problem with you, mmmkkk :thumbsup: .

[18psi]

even after all that, scion TC's are still crap. there's only a couple types of people who don't like EVO's. those that don't drive them, but wish they did, and those who get their asses handed to them by EVO's. which one are you?

what a stupid ass post.....no i dont wish to own an evo. and if you read my thread somewhere in here you will notice that i've beaten many of them numerous times...what a douchebag, do you really think that everyone in here is green with envy for your evo?:laughat:
ill bet you're one of the people that drives his car thinking everyone is looking at you, and how pretty you are in your evo, and how badass it is and that it is gods gift to the automotive world, and when your idiot ass tries to race them and they dont comply you think its cause they're intimidated by your fast as hell car dont you? aaaaaaaaaahahahahaha:rotfl:
what a loser......
and after all that , you are still a fanboi douchebag and the tc is still a nice little daily driven car that is great for girls:thumbsup:

[juicyjoint316]

boosted TCs are no joke. more tq made on a TC than the hp of a boosted rsx.

[18psi]

hey juicyjoint, why not boost your base? im just curious why people choose to go n/a on a base when it will produce very minimal power when you can just boost it and make very good power/torque.....esp since your engine would be a little happier from a turbo with lower compression and gearing better for a turboed powerband

[juicyjoint316]

hey juicyjoint, why not boost your base? im just curious why people choose to go n/a on a base when it will produce very minimal power when you can just boost it and make very good power/torque.....esp since your engine would be a little happier from a turbo with lower compression and gearing better for a turboed powerband

u c my avy lol my daughter is stopping me. if it was me i would get rid of the base and get the 4dr si i need a 4dr baaad. and other expenses that i may have to pay:shakehead

but 1st and foremost my daughter comes 1st i want the best for her:o BELIEVE me if i had the cash i would boost it tho.

[Gotboost98]

I don't think ANYONE in here has a problem with Evo's......just a problem with you, mmmkkk :thumbsup: .

ohhhhhhhhhh shit

[18psi]

i totally understand....family comes first no matter what...well, the reason i ask is cause the stuff you have listed for future mods is some expensive ass stuff: kpro, crower cams, etc...hell, all that shit put together cost AT LEAST the same if not more than a turbo kit. (granted not the best but still)......just wondering

[orangekeebler]

boosted TCs are no joke. more tq made on a TC than the hp of a boosted rsx.

but the tc weighs a bit more, correct?

[juicyjoint316]

but the tc weighs a bit more, correct?

i dont know, would have to look it up...

i totally understand....family comes first no matter what...well, the reason i ask is cause the stuff you have listed for future mods is some expensive ass stuff: kpro, crower cams, etc...hell, all that shit put together cost AT LEAST the same if not more than a turbo kit. (granted not the best but still)......just wondering

i mean i would like to show ppl that the a3 n/a isnt a bad motor just gotta have the deep pockets for it. so if i ever do hook up my car again i would be happy n/a with 200whp. on a a3 thats impressive and unheard of since no performance vtec. maybe more respect n/a than boosted...

[18psi]

but the tc weighs a bit more, correct?

curb weight for a 2008 tc: 2930
130lbs more than an rsx

[Gotboost98]

:noes::noes::run::run::run:

[orangekeebler]

curb weight for a 2008 tc: 2930
130lbs more than an rsx

i always thought they were a noticeable bit more heavier than the rsx all this time. learn something new everyday i guess

[wesessiah]

hey if you fellas see vroom direct him here... he said bewbz can't be seen in avy=fail, so...

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x100/wesessiah/025.jpg?t=1199158993

[orangekeebler]

hey if you fellas see vroom direct him here... he said bewbz can't be seen in avy=fail, so...

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x100/wesessiah/025.jpg?t=1199158993

sir, if i was premy, i would rep the ever-livin-piss out of you for that. :thumbsup:

just curious, how did you talk your way into that one? and does she now why the pic was taken? :laughing:

[Gotboost98]

hey if you fellas see vroom direct him here... he said bewbz can't be seen in avy=fail, so...

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x100/wesessiah/025.jpg?t=1199158993

lol you already showed your wife off in the superchat thread. Btw your wife is beautiful but I told you that before;)

[Gotboost98]

sir, if i was premy, i would rep the ever-livin-piss out of you for that. :thumbsup:

just curious, how did you talk your way into that one? and does she now why the pic was taken? :laughing:

yes she does lol

[wesessiah]

sir, if i was premy, i would rep the ever-livin-piss out of you for that. :thumbsup:

just curious, how did you talk your way into that one? and does she now why the pic was taken? :laughing:

lol... i was like "hey, some of the guys on crsx want to see a cleavage shot, so get out of the kitchen and get your camera" :laughing:

[wesessiah]

lol you already showed your wife off in the superchat thread. Btw your wife is beautiful but I told you that before;)

why thank you :bow:

[orangekeebler]

lol... i was like "hey, some of the guys on crsx want to see a cleavage shot, so get out of the kitchen and get your camera" :laughing:

:laughing:

you are a god among men.

:beerchug:

edit: ill try and get Ashley to take a couple pics. i already sent a few of them to ben i had. haha.

[18psi]

i dont know, would have to look it up...



i mean i would like to show ppl that the a3 n/a isnt a bad motor just gotta have the deep pockets for it. so if i ever do hook up my car again i would be happy n/a with 200whp. on a a3 thats impressive and unheard of since no performance vtec. maybe more respect n/a than boosted...
i can respect that......good luck with that man:thumbsup:
i always thought they were a noticeable bit more heavier than the rsx all this time. learn something new everyday i guess
they're really not much different in weight and layout than the rsx...lots of things are carried over from the celica, which weighs less than the rsx at 2500lbs.
hey if you fellas see vroom direct him here... he said bewbz can't be seen in avy=fail, so...

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x100/wesessiah/025.jpg?t=1199158993
:love:
that is all i got to say....

[Gotboost98]

why thank you :bow:

your welcome, an thats why you shouldnt get pissy when she wants to cuddle with you lol Shes freaking gorgeous. You should be like hell yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss bewbiessssssssss

[Gotboost98]

:laughing:

you are a god among men.

:beerchug:

edit: ill try and get Ashley to take a couple pics. i already sent a few of them to ben i had. haha.

lol its because im ftw:beerchug:

[orangekeebler]

your welcome, an thats why you shouldnt get pissy when she wants to cuddle with you lol Shes freaking gorgeous. You should be like hell yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss bewbiessssssssss

ta-ta's.

[wesessiah]

your welcome, an thats why you shouldnt get pissy when she wants to cuddle with you lol Shes freaking gorgeous. You should be like hell yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss bewbiessssssssss

haha... you know me too well. :shady:

[Gotboost98]

haha... you know me too well. :shady:

:laughing::thumbsup: yes i do

[EvilCelica]

Nice TC looks pretty nice
Toyota love, at least its not a cobalt lol.

[ODUB]

the tc is still a nice little daily driven car that is great for girls:thumbsup:

that's the smartest thing you've said so far, and also what i've been saying from the beginning. thanks Ubberdouche :thumbsup:

[18psi]

Nice TC looks pretty nice
Toyota love, at least its not a cobalt lol.

take your toyota love to a toyota forum:thumbsup:

[18psi]

that's the smartest thing you've said so far, and also what i've been saying from the beginning. thanks Ubberdouche :thumbsup:

stupid fanboi.....hahahahahaha
oh well, i wont even waste my time on you, hell you drive the almighty evo, you>*:mam:
and no, its not what you've been saying dumbass, go back and re-read your OWN posts...kthanx

[Gotboost98]

take your toyota love to a toyota forum:thumbsup:

supra> you

Fuck you hating on toyotas :laughing:

[18psi]

supra> you

Fuck you hating on toyotas :laughing:

supra's are no longer made:chuck::p

[Gotboost98]

supra's are no longer made:chuck::p

so?

[18psi]

nothing shut up:lostswimmer::crying:

[orangekeebler]

supra's are no longer made:chuck::p

yes they are. paul walker makes them in his basement.

[Gotboost98]

yes they are. paul walker makes them in his basement.

:rotfl:

[18psi]

yes they are. paul walker makes them in his basement.

oh shit son:eek:
ill bet he and chuck norris have buttseks and produce 800whp single snail supras:run:

[orangekeebler]

oh shit son:eek:
ill bet he and chuck norris have buttseks and produce 800whp single snail supras:run:

1/2 snails actually.

its a new design. they leave off the intake side..amazing power gains.

[The Tech-1]

curb weight for a 2008 tc: 2930
130lbs more than an rsx

yea but at least half of that extra weight is in their roof.

That car was not designed with performance in mind
/ bullshit

[orangekeebler]

yea but at least half of that extra weight is in their roof.

That car was not designed with performance in mind
/ bullshit

+uno

[18psi]

+dos :laughing:

[F.O.D.]

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/funny-pictures-bird-cat-cage.jpg

[05k20a]

why would you put this bullshit up

[04azuremach]

HEHEHE

hi hi

IM RETARD MY FAVORITE COLOR IS POPCORN!!!!!1

[VtecEater08]

oh god lol

[FRED]

My Girlfriend Has A Tc .

[Leonard1818]

The only thing that makes TRD a TURD is U

[dr.gonzo]

To the thread starter thanks for putting this up. It's nice to learn about other cars and how they perform with some light modification. I think they are nice looking cars. I think Toyota used the TC as a way to look sporty but at the same they completely ignored any type of performance. I believe back in the day when sports compact enthusiasm started that cars like the TC wouldn't have been laughed. The elitist view points the people on this forum have seem to make VWVortex in its hey day of hating on everything not VW look tame. To the thread starter I am glad you like your TC and wish you luck in your ownership and future modifications.

So to the haters and jerk offs I hand you each 1 bullet and over there is a room with a gun. The door locks from the outside and I will be the one who locks it. I think you know the choice you should make. No really it's ok we won't miss you. Genetic Waste is never ever really remembered.

[fuzzyjenkins]

To the thread starter thanks for putting this up. It's nice to learn about other cars and how they perform with some light modification. I think they are nice looking cars. I think Toyota used the TC as a way to look sporty but at the same they completely ignored any type of performance. I believe back in the day when sports compact enthusiasm started that cars like the TC wouldn't have been laughed. The elitist view points the people on this forum have seem to make VWVortex in its hey day of hating on everything not VW look tame. To the thread starter I am glad you like your TC and wish you luck in your ownership and future modifications.

So to the haters and jerk offs I hand you each 1 bullet and over there is a room with a gun. The door locks from the outside and I will be the one who locks it. I think you know the choice you should make. No really it's ok we won't miss you. Genetic Waste is never ever really remembered.

Lol. I used to post on VWVortex and I know what you're talking about....That shit got really old over there.

[fuzzyjenkins]

My cousin has a TC...It's a relatively nice car. I started a big debate last December on the IGN car boards about what would have a higher tuning potential in the long run, the K20 or the 2AZ-FE.

End result of the debate...people on the IGN boards don't know enough about engines to put up a decent debate on the topic...But from what I've seen and read it seems the 2AZ is a stout little motor, and has lower compression ratio than the K20. I've seen people get into the 400HP range fairly easy. I don't claim to know enough about either engine to make an educated guess on what would be a higher HP/reliable engine in the long run. But I do think the 2AZ can handle a lot of go.

[ez__mac]

well it's a pretty big motor (for a 4 cylinder), 2.4, and with the low compression, makes a pretty decent setup for boost, and globs of it.

also, it's made by toyota, so it'll last till the apocalypse and then another 100k miles or so.

[sessman]

hahaha

[J-J-J-Jaded]

I actually just sold my tC last night getting ready for an 05 type S. If I had've bought my tC as a manual, I wouldn't even have bothered looking into rsx's.

[?uestion]

i love chicks with tc's

[Gotboost98]

I actually just sold my tC last night getting ready for an 05 type S. If I had've bought my tC as a manual, I wouldn't even have bothered looking into rsx's.

Why not, rsx S > TC 5spd :confused:

[Game]

Why not, rsx S > TC 5spd :confused:

QFT.

Sounds like you're too gay to own an RSX, stick to the TC bro. Or if you do buy one, don't post here.

[Gotboost98]

QFT.

Sounds like you're too gay to own an RSX, stick to the TC bro. Or if you do buy one, don't post here.

:lawl:

[jaeguyoon]

I'd rather get the xB than the tC.

[Gotboost98]

I'd rather get the xB than the tC.

Wouldn't go that far. The Tc is a nice, decent looking, reliable car for the price. It looks decently sharp with the factory lip kit option and lowered. It's no rsx but you are just being ridiculous.

[wesessiah]

Wouldn't go that far. The Tc is a nice, decent looking, reliable car for the price. It looks decently sharp with the factory lip kit option and lowered. It's no rsx but you are just being ridiculous.

i agree, the wife wanted one for a while. they're a decent car for the price, and i thought they drove nice.

[mateo]

If you buy one, you better get yourself a local Chiropractor because the seats sucks.

That goes with any of the Scion's.

[Gotboost98]

i agree, the wife wanted one for a while. they're a decent car for the price, and i thought they drove nice.
Me too I drove a few for shits and grins.
If you buy one, you better get yourself a local Chiropractor because the seats sucks.

That goes with any of the Scion's.
Hmm i thought the seats felt fine. :dontknow:
Granted I haven't owned one long enough to say. It's possible you have weaker back muscles than others. The rsx's seats sucked ass after a year or so of owning. Didnt hurt my back just they got uncomfortable

[mateo]

Me too I drove a few for shits and grins.

Hmm i thought the seats felt fine. :dontknow:
Granted I haven't owned one long enough to say. It's possible you have weaker back muscles than others. The rsx's seats sucked ass after a year or so of owning. Didnt hurt my back just they got uncomfortable
It is just the seating position itself. I have 06 Seats in my RSX, and they are far better than the 02, but after driving my Bimmer, all seat sucks by comparison, so maybe I'm somewhat bias at this point.

[Gotboost98]

It is just the seating position itself. I have 06 Seats in my RSX, and they are far better than the 02, but after driving my Bimmer, all seat sucks by comparison, so maybe I'm somewhat bias at this point.

Ah. Never noticed the position too much on the test drive. My 04-S wasn't bad. Yeah I heard the 05-06 seats were better sat in a few didnt notice anything right off but it did have better padding. I think the bmw seats deff make you biased. Bwm seats > decent amount of seats.

[tke447]

i'm sorry dude but ur a fuckin retard buying all that performance shit for it . . .i'd race you right now in my rsx type s and kick ur ass . . trust me you wasted all the money on a gay car . . .scions blows

[BlackSS]

i'm sorry dude but ur a fuckin retard buying all that performance shit for it . . .i'd race you right now in my rsx type s and kick ur ass . . trust me you wasted all the money on a gay car . . .scions blows

:run:

[qwk]

i cant believe this thread is still going on

[Gotboost98]

i'm sorry dude but ur a fuckin retard buying all that performance shit for it . . .i'd race you right now in my rsx type s and kick ur ass . . trust me you wasted all the money on a gay car . . .scions blows

same could be said for you :p

[BlackSS]

same could be said for you :p

That's why I said " :run: "
http://rofl.wheresthebeef.co.uk/Pot%20Kettle%20Black.jpg

[Gotboost98]

omg thats racist lulz......jk