05 TYPE-S vs Camero SS

[jrod1g]

Hey quick question, hopefully no one gets mad in here, seen a couple members get mad over anything, but anyways.... im racing my friends camero ss edition next week, my current set up is an 05 rsx type-s, sri (injen), dc racing headers, and a custom exhaust. Who do u think would win? I jus wanna hear everyones feedback no fighting k?

[Ktec]

i think you will lose but you never know. is his car automatic? are you racing from a roll ? i would say go from a 65 roll

[jrod1g]

yesss his car is automatic, sorry i forgot to mention that......

[almostdone3]

wrong section.

[drumnatural]

From a stop he should rape you. Even from a roll he might still win.

This will get moved to the RSX Vs. All section where u will get insight on the abilites of the SS.

[Danrsxtypes]

you probably get owned:

[HondaTom]

If you had a CAI you would win.

[dc4todc5]

race from a low roll, 20-25 or so, make sure u honk, tell him on 3.. go on 2 1/3.. you should stay ahead til about 100.. shut down.. and youve won the race.. btw you spelt camaro wrong.. noob

[03ssmrsx]

Google!?!?!?!

[stuffnthings]

pretty sure you get walked no matter what the scenario.

[Dom04ABP]

LS1> You

[takeshi]

get K-pro

[Bpayne42587]

if its an auto do a low 20 roll maybe it will shift to second and the auto tranny will sit there confused for a while deciding on what gear to go into while you drive away

[shaX k20]

Hey quick question, hopefully no one gets mad in here, seen a couple members get mad over anything, but anyways.... im racing my friends camero ss edition next week, my current set up is an 05 rsx type-s, sri (injen), dc racing headers, and a custom exhaust. Who do u think would win? I jus wanna hear everyones feedback no fighting k?

Dude are you for real, you're going to get stomped into the ground. A stock SS camaro is roughly a 13.7 quarter mile. Your car with those mods is not good for better than probably around a 14.7 if you're an amazing driver.

You would need to go boost and beyond to beat an SS Camaro.

[drumnatural]

He'll get low 14's if he is an amazing driver.

[shaX k20]

He'll get low 14's if he is an amazing driver.

there's no way he's getting low 14's with SRI, RH & exhaust.

A stock SRT-4 is about a 14.0 flat, putting down 230whp and 250 ft/lb torque and weighing the same as a type-s. A stock 05 type-s is good for about 185whp and a 14.9 quarter mile, maybe a 14.8.

Like I said, he would need turbo, supporting mods, and plenty of boost to be running with SS Camaro's.

[Corasaurus]

Camaro?

[drumnatural]

I'm not denying that the Camaro wil rape him.

But I pulled a 14.1 with just a CAI and RH. So with his mods and him being an amazing driver he could get low 14's.

Also keep in mind that us 05-06 guys basically have cams over you 02-04 guys.

[shaX k20]

I'm not denying that the Camaro wil rape him.

But I pulled a 14.1 with just a CAI and RH. So with his mods and him being an amazing driver he could get low 14's.

Also keep in mind that us 05-06 guys basically have cams over you 02-04 guys.


I'm not calling you a liar, but I would really like to see a legit time slip, because the numbers just don't add up. Even with a CAI & RH you can't be putting down more than 195-200whp.. and another car that has 30-40 more whp, and over 100 more ft/lb torque (Stock 04-05 SRT-4) can only run a 13.9 with an amazing driver, just doesn't make sense.

[drumnatural]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c244/drumnatural/Slips.jpg

I'm on the left both times. Mods at the time were Injen CAI, Nextgear IMG, Comptech Raceheader and ESMM's.

Best trap/quarter mile time and best 60ft. If I didn't miss 3rd when I cut that 2.1 60ft that may have been just enough to barely dip in the 13's.

[drumnatural]

Don't get you panties all in a bunch. These are not common times for the car and mods. Also look at the air tempature. Also running stock tires actually helped because of the air temp.

[Bpayne42587]

You can run 14.8-15.1 in a all stock 02-04 RSX. 05-06 you looking at mid 14's stock

[MmmmVTEC]

probably will lose, but who knows? Drive like hell bro and it's slightly possible... :dontknow:

[Mr. Spade]

how old a camaro does he have? if its a old 4 speed you cud have him from a roll on the hiway if youre not a pussy

[magnEsium]

Dude are you for real, you're going to get stomped into the ground. A stock SS camaro is roughly a 13.7 quarter mile. Your car with those mods is not good for better than probably around a 14.7 if you're an amazing driver.

You would need to go boost and beyond to beat an SS Camaro.

lol @ this..

Camaro only gets a 13.7 because of their launch.. if a Camaro was FWD, it would probably be low 14's...

Quarter mile times have nothing to do with anything.. its the MPH on the slip that says whats going to happen..

I have a friend that runs 13.5 on slicks and I slap him silly with my mods...

I can see that you're real fucking bright there, Einstein..

there's no way he's getting low 14's with SRI, RH & exhaust.

A stock SRT-4 is about a 14.0 flat, putting down 230whp and 250 ft/lb torque and weighing the same as a type-s. A stock 05 type-s is good for about 185whp and a 14.9 quarter mile, maybe a 14.8.

Like I said, he would need turbo, supporting mods, and plenty of boost to be running with SS Camaro's.


lol @ this too... the 14.0 has nothing to do with it because if the damn SRT-4 actually had traction, it would probably be mid 13's... a stock SRT-4 runs side by side with an stock 04-05 STi from a roll... but the stock 04-05 STi's get what in the quarter? like 13 flat? oh thats right......

[jocasti]

camaro>rsx

[magnEsium]

camaro>rsx

.. They look like something that came out of my ass after I ate Taco Bell

[dc5jimbo]

idk but problly the camaro is gunna win but if its an old camaro 4 speed than u have a big chance on the highway on a roll

[shaX k20]

lol @ this..

Camaro only gets a 13.7 because of their launch.. if a Camaro was FWD, it would probably be low 14's...

Quarter mile times have nothing to do with anything.. its the MPH on the slip that says whats going to happen..

I have a friend that runs 13.5 on slicks and I slap him silly with my mods...

I can see that you're real fucking bright there, Einstein..




lol @ this too... the 14.0 has nothing to do with it because if the damn SRT-4 actually had traction, it would probably be mid 13's... a stock SRT-4 runs side by side with an stock 04-05 STi from a roll... but the stock 04-05 STi's get what in the quarter? like 13 flat? oh thats right......

Listen to yourself, "if the camaro was FWD.." who gives a damn what it WOULD do it if WAS FWD, its NOT FWD, its RWD.. and thats only a small part of the reason. Did you forget the fact that a stock SS Camaro is putting down close to 315rwhp and even more torque? Compared to a whopping 185whp from a type-s.. so tell me again why a 185whp FWD car can even come close to a RWD car putting down 130 more whp and more than 200 more ft/lb torque?

[magnEsium]

Listen to yourself, "if the camaro was FWD.." who gives a damn what it WOULD do it if WAS FWD, its NOT FWD, its RWD.. and thats only a small part of the reason. Did you forget the fact that a stock SS Camaro is putting down close to 315rwhp and even more torque? Compared to a whopping 185whp from a type-s.. so tell me again why a 185whp FWD car can even come close to a RWD car putting down 130 more whp and more than 200 more ft/lb torque?

Are you oblivious to how much a Camaro weighs?


....3500lbs


Okay, thank you, come again..

[OMGangeLO]

haha. Let's all chill out here. Let's just wait for this homie to video tape it and then we'll know wasssssup.

..And if he DOESN'T video tape it..

we'll argue with HIM. Sound cool?

Thank you, come again.

[K20ZFTMW]

LS1> You

:iamwiths:

[jrod1g]

to be honest i forgot his camaro is a 2000 ss so i dunnooooo im a good driver, been driving for a year, and no not the weekends only, my rsx = daily driven car...... i noe my stuff preettty well.... but ya thanks for the output guys....

[PeterGibbons316]

Hey quick question, hopefully no one gets mad in here, seen a couple members get mad over anything, but anyways.... im racing my friends camero ss edition next week, my current set up is an 05 rsx type-s, sri (injen), dc racing headers, and a custom exhaust. Who do u think would win? I jus wanna hear everyones feedback no fighting k?

More than 1 header = you lose.

[06 Pearl White]

no contest.... u lose

[Cuz Im Bobby]

to be honest i forgot his camaro is a 2000 ss so i dunnooooo im a good driver, been driving for a year, and no not the weekends only, my rsx = daily driven car...... i noe my stuff preettty well.... but ya thanks for the output guys....

... you think you are a good driver??


plus to answer one of the replies about time slips or w/e... theres a guy on the boards that ran a 14.2 with just a CAI

[Ktec]

go from a 65 or 70 roll man, im tellin ya

[Gary Waller]

Make sure to use 87 octane and pull out your air filter.

You may also want to take your doors off for weight reduction.

[KiiD2X]

hmmm,...The most important question no one seemed to ask and you didnt mention.......Is his car all stocked or is it modded out? (If it is modded out...You better get a big behind bottle of spray like ASAP, Lol) Lol, Nah, Get some spray if it is serious enough to the point where you dont want to lose to him..Its fast, easy, and cheap...I mean you race next week. You prolly wont have time for any type of crazy mods....

My vote.... Camaro beats you like its your 21st birthday from stand still.
My vote.... Camaro wins on a roll.

[rs-xtacy]

whats a camero?

[Jaded'05]

my dad used to have a 02 ss, haha u will get rapped no matter wat

[Civic Invasion]

You can beat it. This is the plan...find a boosted rsx the same color as yours and drive it. He will never know.

[jrod1g]

hahahahahha, well the only thing im going to do is probably replace my short ramintake witha cold air intake, but besides that i dont have enough money to buy this
http://www.skunk2.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=305-05-0230
i shall buy this my next couple of checks hahahah from the apple store!! :] and then its time to save up for kpro!!!

[KiiD2X]

Just get some spray man....Get like a big bottle of NX.

[sessman]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c244/drumnatural/Slips.jpg

I'm on the left both times. Mods at the time were Injen CAI, Nextgear IMG, Comptech Raceheader and ESMM's.

Best trap/quarter mile time and best 60ft. If I didn't miss 3rd when I cut that 2.1 60ft that may have been just enough to barely dip in the 13's.

hahahaha SERVED

[Zer0 7]

Are you oblivious to how much a Camaro weighs?


....3500lbs


Okay, thank you, come again..

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: please don't tell me you think the rsx will even keep CLOSE to the ss. STOCK they can and have pulled 12.9 quarter mile times, to the OP you're gonna lose.

[fatcircles]

You will win because there is no such thing as a Camero.

[TPDuke112]

You will win. Talk him into going for a few bucks. Good luck, let us know the outcome!!

[rsxtraordinary]

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: please don't tell me you think the rsx will even keep CLOSE to the ss. STOCK they can and have pulled 12.9 quarter mile times, to the OP you're gonna lose.

You will win. Talk him into going for a few bucks. Good luck, let us know the outcome!!

I was wondering when some people with sense were gonna chime in......

sorry TS, the only chance you have is when you DO get those cams, kpro and he's stock (from a roll)...

[Got_Leather]

to be honest i forgot his camaro is a 2000 ss so i dunnooooo im a good driver, been driving for a year, and no not the weekends only, my rsx = daily driven car...... i noe my stuff preettty well.... but ya thanks for the output guys....

It would be thanks for the INPUT. But hey who's checking? I just can't stand when proper grammar isn't used.

[Got_Leather]

Oh and by the way, ditch your SRI, get a CAI and go from a low roll say 20. You will still lose IMO but that will be your closest bet. When you plan on racing? I'm in for vids.

[BlackSS]

go from a 65 or 70 roll man, im tellin ya

Please do this, cause this isn't the best area for an auto camaro to start from :rolleyes: .

:rotfl: @ this thread. Some of you guys are unbelievable. Please raise your hand if you actually think this will be a close race! And speaking of MPH over ET....ya, bad argument there too. Auto Camaro's average around 102-105 mph, where as the OP's car will be lucky to hit 100 mph on it's best day. So....camaro's worst day to rsx's best day is still 2 mph slower. But hey....what constitutes the lower mph? Oh, that's right, temp, humidity, high/low air pressure, altitude, etc. So wait.....since they are both racing in the same place, at the same time, you mean both cars will be affected by the environment??? Say it ain't so!!!! So, you mean bad air for the camaro means bad air for the rsx....and good air for the rsx means good air for the camaro. So, in cliff notes....camaro wins. If you believe other wise, you're a blind fanboi moron. BTW mag......I don't believe the car's looks were being discussed......is someone trying to feel better about having a slower car?? :noes: Don't worry.....you guys do have better interiors and resale value.....I'll give you that, lol.

[SE3P]

your gonna get spanked end of story. i raced one when i just had a midpipe.we did rolling starts. dunno what speed we were going though. all i know is that i was on second gear at high rpms. i got my ass handed to me over and over and over lol. im not sure what he had done to it if it even had anything done to it. At this time i was able to keep up with my friends rsx on rolling starts. the rsx had cai dcrh and apexi exhaust.

[drumnatural]

A midpipe and Race Header are two different worlds.

But the TS still won't win.

[SE3P]

A midpipe and Race Header are two different worlds.

But the TS still won't win.

:confused:

[Ktec]

Please do this, cause this isn't the best area for an auto camaro to start from :rolleyes: .

:rotfl: @ this thread. Some of you guys are unbelievable. Please raise your hand if you actually think this will be a close race! And speaking of MPH over ET....ya, bad argument there too. Auto Camaro's average around 102-105 mph, where as the OP's car will be lucky to hit 100 mph on it's best day. So....camaro's worst day to rsx's best day is still 2 mph slower. But hey....what constitutes the lower mph? Oh, that's right, temp, humidity, high/low air pressure, altitude, etc. So wait.....since they are both racing in the same place, at the same time, you mean both cars will be affected by the environment??? Say it ain't so!!!! So, you mean bad air for the camaro means bad air for the rsx....and good air for the rsx means good air for the camaro. So, in cliff notes....camaro wins. If you believe other wise, you're a blind fanboi moron. BTW mag......I don't believe the car's looks were being discussed......is someone trying to feel better about having a slower car?? :noes: Don't worry.....you guys do have better interiors and resale value.....I'll give you that, lol.

what about safety rattings?:D ok fine if the big bad camaro is good high up go from a -15 roll.

[shaX k20]

Please do this, cause this isn't the best area for an auto camaro to start from :rolleyes: .

:rotfl: @ this thread. Some of you guys are unbelievable. Please raise your hand if you actually think this will be a close race! And speaking of MPH over ET....ya, bad argument there too. Auto Camaro's average around 102-105 mph, where as the OP's car will be lucky to hit 100 mph on it's best day. So....camaro's worst day to rsx's best day is still 2 mph slower. But hey....what constitutes the lower mph? Oh, that's right, temp, humidity, high/low air pressure, altitude, etc. So wait.....since they are both racing in the same place, at the same time, you mean both cars will be affected by the environment??? Say it ain't so!!!! So, you mean bad air for the camaro means bad air for the rsx....and good air for the rsx means good air for the camaro. So, in cliff notes....camaro wins. If you believe other wise, you're a blind fanboi moron. BTW mag......I don't believe the car's looks were being discussed......is someone trying to feel better about having a slower car?? :noes: Don't worry.....you guys do have better interiors and resale value.....I'll give you that, lol.

+1

SS Camaro FTMFW

[TPDuke112]

+1

SS Camaro FTMFW

meh.:coffee:

[Addicted toType-S]

Don't even bother unless you get more mods the camaro will win.

[drisken]

save the gas money you would waste getting raped by the camaro . . . find a domination club . . . and pay for a spanking from a hot chick :thumbsup:

[braceyaselfrsx]

lol youll get ownt unless ur boosted from a high roll. Even then the ls1 shines. You 4 banger guys that have never seen a ls1 in action. It will rape you from a 20 and it will rape you from a high roll. There top end and bottom end own you end of story.

[Spec-v??]

Auto or manual will beat a fully bolted Type-s hands down roll would be even worse cause the LS1 loves to breath up top, i love RSX's and think they are really nice ass, quick cars, one of my friends has a Blue fully bolted and tuned rsx-s and i love his car, auto LS1's trap pretty high stock....I used to trap 105-106 and stay neck and neck with stock 6 speeds or i pull alittle or get beat alittle....I have yet to lose to an N/A Type-s not trying to be a dick, most of the time their headlights fall back pretty quick, if anyone from st.louis missouri gets on here, they know my Redline........:laughing:

[magnEsium]

BTW mag......I don't believe the car's looks were being discussed......is someone trying to feel better about having a slower car?? :noes: Don't worry.....you guys do have better interiors and resale value.....I'll give you that, lol.

Uhh.. No?

RSX is fucking slow.. 100mph... boring..

But guess what... so is 102-105mph...


Drag racing is fucking boring anyway.. seriously how can you guys sit on the side lines watching that shit... I'd fall asleep faster watching that shit that swallowing a bottle of sleeping pills

[braceyaselfrsx]

Uhh.. No?

RSX is fucking slow.. 100mph... boring..

But guess what... so is 102-105mph...


Drag racing is fucking boring anyway.. seriously how can you guys sit on the side lines watching that shit... I'd fall asleep faster watching that shit that swallowing a bottle of sleeping pills

any1 with a slow car would say that

[magnEsium]

any1 with a slow car would say that

Yes thats right..

[braceyaselfrsx]

i know,thats why i said it

[magnEsium]

i know,thats why i said it

good

[OMGangeLO]

i know,thats why i said it

:lawl:

[Gotboost98]

:rotfl:

[18psi]

lol youll get ownt unless ur boosted from a high roll. Even then the ls1 shines. You 4 banger guys that have never seen a ls1 in action. It will rape you from a 20 and it will rape you from a high roll. There top end and bottom end own you end of story.
:stop:now just wait a minute........
not all 4 bangers are created equal:laughing:
find me a camaro ss (stock or nearly stock) that will own me low or high roll, hell even dig:run:

[stlrollin6]

the auto stalls a bit, then kicks back and pwns u, lol thats what happened to me and a buddy, 45 roll, ahead by a car, the auto stalled a bit, then he pulled pas and had a car on me, this was to about hmm 90 ish maybe a LITTLE more

[BlackSS]

the auto stalls a bit, then kicks back and pwns u, lol thats what happened to me and a buddy, 45 roll, ahead by a car, the auto stalled a bit, then he pulled pas and had a car on me, this was to about hmm 90 ish maybe a LITTLE more

45-90 is barely a race also. Figure that a stock ls1 f-body is well into the 80mph range in the 1/8th mile stock, and you guys started at 45 which is the worst spot for an auto to start. Basically you guys raced for 1/16th of a mile lol :laughing: . If you guys did a full out real race it woulda been worse.

[BlackSS]

Uhh.. No?

Then why bring it up? Discussion was on the speed of the camaro v. the speed of the rsx....not the looks. No one was discussing on the pros and cons of each car, or which one they would own.....just that one was faster than the other. To automatically point out a "flaw" that is purely opinion just looks real bad, like you're trying to justify something.

And of course drag racing is really boring in a 200hp fwd car. Give it some hp (same for the camaro) and things get interesting. But that's all opinion anyways, to each his own to what type of racing is preferred. I'm not into road racing due to the lack of tracks around, and I'm sure if I got into....it wouldn't be with this car.

[JUANonJUAN]

TS needs a blower and then he'll beat it :D

[Zer0 7]

TS needs a blower and all supporting mods to stay even

[braceyaselfrsx]

:stop:now just wait a minute........
not all 4 bangers are created equal:laughing:
find me a camaro ss (stock or nearly stock) that will own me low or high roll, hell even dig:run:

hondas my friend:run:

[BlackSS]

:stop:now just wait a minute........
not all 4 bangers are created equal:laughing:
find me a camaro ss (stock or nearly stock) that will own me low or high roll, hell even dig:run:

I'm "nearly stock" :shady:

[braceyaselfrsx]

I'm "nearly stock" :shady:

me 2 just bolt ons

[BlackSS]

double post ftl

[TPDuke112]

Im "Athens" Stock

[JUANonJUAN]

TS needs a blower and all supporting mods to stay even

actually a blown rsx (9psi) + bolt on , kpro blah blah would walk it.. from a roll tho.. not sure about a dig..

[wesessiah]

someone's probably already said, i'm not reading all posts right now... but if it's an ls1 camaro, they can trap 102-105mph stock straight drive OR auto... from a roll he can pull

http://www.busbank.com/images/image_school.jpg lengths on you

from a dig, he will pull

http://www.fletcherjowers.com/Fletcher%20on%20Locomotive%20001.jpg lengths on you...

if it is an lt1 model, the former can be reduced to car lengths, and the latter can be reduced to bus lengths.

[18psi]

hondas my friend:run:
thats what i figured but wanted for it to be cleared up:thumbsup:
I'm "nearly stock" :shady:
bitch please, i know how "stock" you are:laughing:
almost in the 11's "stock":shady:
though id really love to race you, i honestly think it would be a pretty good/close race, maybe im wrong:o

what was your most current et/trap?

[18psi]

someone's probably already said, i'm not reading all posts right now... but if it's an ls1 camaro, they can trap 102-105mph stock straight drive OR auto... from a roll he can pull

if it is an lt1 model, the former can be reduced to car lengths, and the latter can be reduced to bus lengths.

leave it to the rsx mafia picture division to picture whore every thread:mam:

[wesessiah]

leave it to the rsx mafia picture division to picture whore every thread:mam:

:laughing: what can i say, i like my job :bow:

[TSimage]

I'm stock too... :shady:

[SE3P]

If all of you are stock then im a 10 second car.....:run:

[Brianstype-s]

Please do this, cause this isn't the best area for an auto camaro to start from :rolleyes: .

:rotfl: @ this thread. Some of you guys are unbelievable. Please raise your hand if you actually think this will be a close race! And speaking of MPH over ET....ya, bad argument there too. Auto Camaro's average around 102-105 mph, where as the OP's car will be lucky to hit 100 mph on it's best day. So....camaro's worst day to rsx's best day is still 2 mph slower. But hey....what constitutes the lower mph? Oh, that's right, temp, humidity, high/low air pressure, altitude, etc. So wait.....since they are both racing in the same place, at the same time, you mean both cars will be affected by the environment??? Say it ain't so!!!! So, you mean bad air for the camaro means bad air for the rsx....and good air for the rsx means good air for the camaro. So, in cliff notes....camaro wins. If you believe other wise, you're a blind fanboi moron. BTW mag......I don't believe the car's looks were being discussed......is someone trying to feel better about having a slower car?? :noes: Don't worry.....you guys do have better interiors and resale value.....I'll give you that, lol.



wow your sig is hilarious....i hope those quotes were complete sarcasm:pray:


anyways yea this thread is a joke

[18psi]

no, ODUB is actually THAT dumb:( and he actually did say that....

[BlackSS]

what was your most current et/trap?

12.0@114 1.89 60'. Recently got some DR's and SFC's to test out on Feb 16th (last T&T day that i could make got rained out). And come march....3.73 gears, solid pinion spacers, and TA rear end girdle.

[Zer0 7]

actually a blown rsx (9psi) + bolt on , kpro blah blah would walk it.. from a roll tho.. not sure about a dig..


9psi and supporting mods= how much? 300whp at the most? :shakehead walk not so much win maybe.

[orangekeebler]

If all of you are stock then im a 10 second car.....:run:

im stock... :shady:

[18psi]

12.0@114 1.89 60'. Recently got some DR's and SFC's to test out on Feb 16th (last T&T day that i could make got rained out). And come march....3.73 gears, solid pinion spacers, and TA rear end girdle.

thats EXACTLY what im shooting for on my car lol....man, that would be an AWESOME race, too bad you're so far away:(
with the gears and all the other shit, you will probably be able to pull on me though....oh well, i guess ill just race Tsimage one of these days as soon as it stops raining and get my ass handed to me in an unfair race:crying:
win or lose though, i still have fun

[orangedomino]

setup for a loss i'm going to have to say

[18psi]

huh?:dontknow:

[BlackSS]

huh?:dontknow:

Who knows....but with the DR's and gears I'm to hit a 1.6 60' or so and catch a mid 11 quarter time.

[18psi]

with my panzy ass driving (im usually really slow shifting and soft launching treating the car very gently lol) ill probably cut a 1.8 '60 and do low 12's at 115ish? i may be way off, though, so thats not any kind of claim to quote:nervous:

[18psi]

supposed to race Tsimage tonite if everything goes well and its dry (been raining for a week now)..........cant wait to get my ass handed to me:w00t:

[BlackSS]

supposed to race Tsimage tonite if everything goes well and its dry (been raining for a week now)..........cant wait to get my ass handed to me:w00t:


Who knows....I hear he needs a tune :shady:

[18psi]

i hear that too:x:

[TSimage]

Bastids!

You just wait. We'll redo the races tonight after I get tuned. I'll give you an 1/8mi head start... rolling. :p

It'll be fun. If he can pull low 12s I definitely think he'll take me since I'll only be running 15psi tonight.

[teamfastasknutz]

just saw this thread. wow, are you guys serious? A camaro SS has low end, midrange, and high end. Doesn't matter what gear or speed you race, the rsx will lose. Auto or manual, it doesn't matter. An automatic ls1 can haul ass. I have a camaro friend who runs 13.2 stock with his SS.

[Zedicous]

Listen to yourself, "if the camaro was FWD.." who gives a damn what it WOULD do it if WAS FWD, its NOT FWD, its RWD.. and thats only a small part of the reason. Did you forget the fact that a stock SS Camaro is putting down close to 315rwhp and even more torque? Compared to a whopping 185whp from a type-s.. so tell me again why a 185whp FWD car can even come close to a RWD car putting down 130 more whp and more than 200 more ft/lb torque?

That would be 320hp crank power on a SS and 300hp on a Z28! Not RWHP!:thumbsdow
It also depends on the age of the car, my Z28 seems a bit more tiried than when it was new and 130,000 less miles.

[Zedicous]

actually a blown rsx (9psi) + bolt on , kpro blah blah would walk it.. from a roll tho.. not sure about a dig..

The RSX would smoke it if he can drive and knows how to get some traction from a dig..

[teamfastasknutz]

That would be 320hp crank power on a SS and 300hp on a Z28! Not RWHP!:thumbsdow
It also depends on the age of the car, my Z28 seems a bit more tiried than when it was new and 130,000 less miles.

go to a SS forum and read up on stock dynos. They aren't far away from the crank hp.

[mateo]

Bone-Marrow?

[Zedicous]

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=JqLKxiR-460

[teamfastasknutz]

It seems none of you know anything about the ls1 motor. It's one of the best motors IMO. underated, reliable, and very quick stock. people have gone flat 13's for crying out loud. This Rsx racing from a roll crap is getting old.

[teamfastasknutz]

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=JqLKxiR-460

Evan Smith of Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords Magazine drove a bone stock camaro ss and ran 12.9 as well. Not saying everyone will run this but this car is defintely capable. 13.0-13.6 is the norm for this car bone stock.

[Zedicous]

Evan Smith of Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords Magazine drove a bone stock camaro ss and ran 12.9 as well. Not saying everyone will run this but this car is defintely capable. 13.0-13.6 is the norm for this car bone stock.

All of the cars are great cars, and fixed up they can be even nicer. Trust me, i know what an LS1 can do being an owner of a 98 Z28 and a 99 C5, plus a 93 B16 Civic and 06 RSX-S. When the Z28 get close to 200,000 miles i'm droping a LS2 into it. For power and torque give me a V8 anytime, for something quick an nimble for daily driving and good mpg give me a civic or an rsx..
:giggitygiggity:

[Zedicous]

There is no replacment for displacment.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Bihc8WVkUMU
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=DeFa5gHDnVs
This place is in Houston and will tune my cars..

[teamfastasknutz]

All of the cars are great cars, and fixed up they can be even nicer. Trust me, i know what an LS1 can do being an owner of a 98 Z28 and a 99 C5, plus a 93 B16 Civic and 06 RSX-S. When the Z28 get close to 200,000 miles i'm droping a LS2 into it. For power and torque give me a V8 anytime, for something quick an nimble for daily driving and good mpg give me a civic or an rsx..
:giggitygiggity:

I'm glad you are open to different cars. I really can't stand some people on here who are just racing with hopes and dreams. i will always give respect where it is due. I understand that mileage effects v8's though. They lose compression much easier than 4 cylinders.

[Zedicous]

go to a SS forum and read up on stock dynos. They aren't far away from the crank hp.

I just know when they were sold new thats what the factory said they have, at 15-20% less it shouldn't be far off from whp.. crank power is alway higher than whp. Same applies for the TA & Ws6..
:giggitygiggity:

[Zedicous]

I'm glad you are open to different cars. I really can't stand some people on here who are just racing with hopes and dreams. i will always give respect where it is due. I understand that mileage effects v8's though. They lose compression much easier than 4 cylinders.

I know what you mean and i can appreciate them all. What drives me nuts is the ones with an import and they bash all the american cars like a Corvette. Fastest cars i've ever seen were American cars, they are the Lingefelter vette and a Hennesey Viper, the vette did 0-200mph in 25sec's and the viper in 20sec's leaving all high end imports behind, even the Bugatti v16 got smoked..

[teamfastasknutz]

I just know when they were sold new thats what the factory said they have, at 15-20% less it shouldn't be far off from whp.. crank power is alway higher than whp. Same applies for the TA & Ws6..
:giggitygiggity:

but if you haven't noticed already, GM has underrated some of their fbodied cars . SS , ws6 has dynoed plenty of times more hp and tq than whan they claimed at the crank.

[Zedicous]

but if you haven't noticed already, GM has underrated some of their fbodied cars . SS , ws6 has dynoed plenty of times more hp and tq than whan they claimed at the crank.

From what i have seen with vette's thats doesn't hold true and they all had the LS1 for that time period. C5's with an LS1 from 97-04 and TA & Camaro's from 98-02.. Lets not forget the LT4 from 97 below, very good motor..

Only car i did see that happen on was the SRT, in an article i read quite some time ago when they were first coming out it benched more hp than what they said it came with.

[Zedicous]

For your mods i think you will get smoked, but there is only one way to find out.
If your running 9-10lbs of boost with some good bolt ons you will smoke him..

[18psi]

Bastids!

You just wait. We'll redo the races tonight after I get tuned. I'll give you an 1/8mi head start... rolling. :p

It'll be fun. If he can pull low 12s I definitely think he'll take me since I'll only be running 15psi tonight.

so..............do you think my car is low 12's capable?
seriously:o

btw, here's the race for all you rsx lovin noobs:mam:
http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=542834

[Zedicous]

Check this out, very close to what i'm doing with my C5.. I love the Procharger.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=pEu3PYCg2ok&feature=related

Nothing like good ole American torque
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=KtI39vm8xGo
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ecs-lLM83c

[Zedicous]

to be honest i forgot his camaro is a 2000 ss so i dunnooooo im a good driver, been driving for a year, and no not the weekends only, my rsx = daily driven car...... i noe my stuff preettty well.... but ya thanks for the output guys....

"im a good driver, been driving for a year" lol

I've had a license for 25yrs and all of it with a stick shift, if i was driving your car i'd get owned.. One cool thing about Hawaii, you get get your license at 14..

[Zedicous]

so..............do you think my car is low 12's capable?
seriously:o

btw, here's the race for all you rsx lovin noobs:mam:
http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=542834

WHat is your car?

[Zedicous]

If i was rich these would be coming to my garage also..
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=ILOsmgU_EQQ&feature=related
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=i1sdOGM9e6E&NR=1

[BlackSS]

From what i have seen with vette's thats doesn't hold true and they all had the LS1 for that time period. C5's with an LS1 from 97-04 and TA & Camaro's from 98-02.. Lets not forget the LT4 from 97 below, very good motor..

Only car i did see that happen on was the SRT, in an article i read quite some time ago when they were first coming out it benched more hp than what they said it came with.

C5 = IRS, which = more parasitic loss from the drivetrain. 320 v. 300 hp from ss v. z28 is a moot point.....they're the same damn car with the same damn engine....one is not more powerful than the other by more than a couple hp. F-bodies with LS1's usually see around 300hp to the wheels stock on dynojets, C5's usually see around 290 stock (again from the IRS).....so yes, saying a stock f-body is 300whp is right.

[BlackSS]

WHat is your car?

He has a subie :noes:

[Zer0 7]

The RSX would smoke it if he can drive and knows how to get some traction from a dig..

:rolleyes: you used to own an ls1 and you're saying this shit? Do you even know what an rsx at 9psi and all supporting mods make? 300 WHP MAYBE, whereas ls1s came anywhere from 280-300whp STOCK, along with having a ridiculous top end compared to the rsx.

[wesessiah]

:rolleyes: you used to own an ls1 and you're saying this shit? Do you even know what an rsx at 9psi and all supporting mods make? 300 WHP MAYBE, whereas ls1s came anywhere from 280-300whp STOCK, along with having a ridiculous top end compared to the rsx.

on 9 psi s/c rsx's tend to trap 106-109 in the 1/4.

[BlackSS]

on 9 psi s/c rsx's tend to trap 106-109 in the 1/4.

And that is on the HIGH end of record traps for manual LS1 f-bodies. So, as said before the rsx probably wouldn't walk away....but has the advantage and should probably win.

[wesessiah]

And that is on the HIGH end of record traps for manual LS1 f-bodies. So, as said before the rsx probably wouldn't walk away....but has the advantage and should probably win.

oh i wasn't trying to say that one would walk off... i also stated the same trap speeds for an ls1 camaro on page 4 as you did on page 2 or whichever page it was. the post i quoted made it seem like a 9psi supercharged rsx still wouldn't have a chance. i have enough friends with f-bodies to know ls1's are not to be taken lightly.

[BlackSS]

oh i wasn't trying to say that one would walk off... i also stated the same trap speeds for an ls1 camaro on page 4 as you did on page 2 or whichever page it was. the post i quoted made it seem like a 9psi supercharged rsx still wouldn't have a chance. i have enough friends with f-bodies to know ls1's are not to be taken lightly.

Sorry, wasn't directed at you, lol. Just quoted you cause you posted traps for 9psi s/c rsx's, and using that to show the guy that said one would walk away from an ls1 that it actually wouldn't.

[Civic Invasion]

Up the boost to 11psi. My cousin trapped 115 before I think.

[mateo]

There is no replacment for displacment.


It's called BOOST...:laughing:

[BlackSS]

It's called BOOST...:laughing:

Then you're just getting to the point that the bigger displacement is ALREADY at.

[SE3P]

im stock... :shady:

like i said... 10 second car..:shady:

[Zedicous]

C5 = IRS, which = more parasitic loss from the drivetrain. 320 v. 300 hp from ss v. z28 is a moot point.....they're the same damn car with the same damn engine....one is not more powerful than the other by more than a couple hp. F-bodies with LS1's usually see around 300hp to the wheels stock on dynojets, C5's usually see around 290 stock (again from the IRS).....so yes, saying a stock f-body is 300whp is right.

Parasitic loss comes into play with the tranny, an auto C5 will dyno less than the stick, i've seen three different C5's automatics on a dyno, both hit 300hp and one 304hp totally stock, so i can't say i agree with that. Stock C5's were rated at 345hp then 350hp in either 01 or 02. Lets not forget the different cams in them also vs f-bodies. My Z28 for a while felt faster than my C5, then after driving it for three weeks solid then jumping in the C5 i then noticed how much faster the C5 was. they were both stock then but i can't say that now. With the trans in the rear end to balance weight does make them feel like two totally different cars even though its the same motor. I'm not sure what the IRS you referring to is..

[Zedicous]

:rolleyes: you used to own an ls1 and you're saying this shit? Do you even know what an rsx at 9psi and all supporting mods make? 300 WHP MAYBE, whereas ls1s came anywhere from 280-300whp STOCK, along with having a ridiculous top end compared to the rsx.

I didn't say i used to, fact is i do. My car collection is a 06 RSX-S, 93 B16 Civic, 98 Z28 & a 99 C5. Your not reading what i wrote correctly, he doesn't have boost and i said he would smoke the SS if he did. But then again an LS1 running 9psi will smoke him anyway.. A RSX-S running 9psi should put down 260-280whp..Plus a stock Z28 will do 160mph easy and i've done 167mph once in my C5 when it was stock.

[Zedicous]

Up the boost to 11psi. My cousin trapped 115 before I think.

The bad is at 11psi the motor will only last so long.. Before the year is up my RSX will be running 9psi.

[BlackSS]

IRS = independent rear suspension. IRS has more loss than solid axle....specially the tiny 10 bolts. Slight differences in the cam are only from '97-'00. '01-'02 f-bodies and y-bodies have the same cam (hence why '01-'02 f-bodies didn't have egr like the y-bodies). The "power difference" you feel between the two cars has to do with weight and gear ratios in the tranny and rear end....not the engine itself.

[teamfastasknutz]

wait, is this debate about a bolt on rsx vs camaro ss or a supercharged rsx vs camaro ss? I'm confused now.

[mateo]

The bad is at 11psi the motor will only last so long.. Before the year is up my RSX will be running 9psi.

Dude you are wrong. More than wrong...Just not right.

[mateo]

Give me any Camaro to drive for just one day. From just that drive alone the fucking thing will require [mr-not-so-goodwrench.] Service.

Why? Why do you think they took them off the Market? It is not because they were good cars, or because they were selling.

[BlackSS]

Give me any Camaro to drive for just one day. From just that drive alone the fucking thing will require [mr-not-so-goodwrench.] Service.

Why? Why do you think they took them off the Market? It is not because they were good cars, or because they were selling.

:rolleyes: you can drive any car into the ground genius. My car gets pushed hard just about everytime I drive it. I run 800 rpms over the stock redline and the rev limiter is 1000 rpms more than stock......Oh yeah, car has 114,000 miles. Still on stock everything except for performance part swaps. And those parts I swapped.....were still good.

[BlackSS]

wait, is this debate about a bolt on rsx vs camaro ss or a supercharged rsx vs camaro ss? I'm confused now.

Who cares anymore? lol

[teamfastasknutz]

ls1 is a reliable engine.

[mateo]

:rolleyes: you can drive any car into the ground genius. My car gets pushed hard just about everytime I drive it. I run 800 rpms over the stock redline and the rev limiter is 1000 rpms more than stock......Oh yeah, car has 114,000 miles. Still on stock everything except for performance part swaps. And those parts I swapped.....were still good.

Reading owns you. I'm talking about a one day hard drive in your GM genius.

Join the Camaro boards if you can take the truth. Or buy another car...:deadhorse:

[teamfastasknutz]

Who cares anymore? lol

lol. Sorry, all i read was the first post, i didn't care to read the BS inbetween. I just remember some rsx owner said to race the camaro ss from a roll and might have a chance..lol. I need to quote that and put it in my sig.

[mateo]

ls1 is a reliable engine.

LOL. The ECU is not!!!

[BlackSS]

Reading owns you. I'm talking about a one day hard drive in your GM genius.

Join the Camaro boards if you can take the truth. Or buy another car...:deadhorse:

Same for you....as said, I can take ANY car and drive it into the ground. A hard day huh? Kinda like going to a track day....running low 12's.....cutting many, many, many 1.8 60' times on the stock rear end......running to the "over stock" redline over and over again......running the stock tranny with 100+ more hp that stock.....kinda like that? Ya, I don't see those days at all :rolleyes: . Damn, guess I should go trade my car in for a torqueless fwd wonder that can barely make it into the 13's without nitrous or f/i. I do hear some of those cars have great interiors and great resale value though :rolleyes: .

[BlackSS]

LOL. The ECU is not!!!

What exactly about the ECU is not reliable? The part where a simple interface and software program can get me infinite adjustments.....including boost applications?

[TPDuke112]

Reading owns you. I'm talking about a one day hard drive in your GM genius.

Join the Camaro boards if you can take the truth. Or buy another car...:deadhorse:

lol, you upset?

[mateo]

Same for you....as said, I can take ANY car and drive it into the ground. A hard day huh? Kinda like going to a track day....running low 12's.....cutting many, many, many 1.8 60' times on the stock rear end......running to the "over stock" redline over and over again......running the stock tranny with 100+ more hp that stock.....kinda like that? Ya, I don't see those days at all :rolleyes: . Damn, guess I should go trade my car in for a torqueless fwd wonder that can barely make it into the 13's without nitrous or f/i. I do hear some of those cars have great interiors and great resale value though :rolleyes: .

Dude you are the weak-suck on the RSX forums. :stfu:

[mateo]

lol, you upset?

You too...:stfu:

[BlackSS]

Dude you are the weak-suck on the RSX forums. :stfu:

Nothing to provide against my statement huh? OMG....there's a camaro out there that's reliable....oh knoes!!!

[Midnight Blue LS2]

LOL. The ECU is not!!!

umm....what?

[mateo]

umm....what?

Google your ass.

[BlackSS]

umm....what?

Random BS because of a blind hate towards GM.....with no proof to back it up either! Imagine that!

[mateo]

Nothing to provide against my statement huh? OMG....there's a camaro out there that's reliable....oh knoes!!!

I'm happy for you. Congrats. Now go to the GM boards where you won't seem to be a dumbass for just being there.

[BlackSS]

Google your ass.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=your+ass&btnG=Google+Search

Didn't see anything on LS1's pcm's going bad :dontknow: .

[wesessiah]

:popcorn: :lawl:

[mateo]

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=your+ass&btnG=Google+Search

Didn't see anything on LS1's pcm's going bad :dontknow: .

It's a ECU.

I'm happy for you. Congrats. Now go to the GM boards where you won't seem to be a dumbass for just being there.

[BlackSS]

I'm happy for you. Congrats. Now go to the GM boards where you won't seem to be a dumbass for just being there.

I have the strange feeling that I'm not the one being looked at as a dumbass :rotfl:

[mateo]

I have the strange feeling that I'm not the one being looked at as a dumbass :rotfl:Really guess what Forum you logged into.

You are the dumbass on the RSX Forums w/your SS not me.

[TPDuke112]

Really guess what Forum you logged into.

You are the dumbass on the RSX Forums w/your SS not me.

You seem to be unnecessarily upset........

[wesessiah]

Really guess what Forum you logged into.

You are the dumbass on the RSX Forums w/your SS not me.

pain meds ftw! he's in this for the duration of it :run:

[mateo]

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=your+ass&btnG=Google+Search

Didn't see anything on LS1's pcm's going bad :dontknow: .

Your right you were searching about your own ass.

[BlackSS]

Really guess what Forum you logged into.

You are the dumbass on the RSX Forums w/your SS not me.

So I'm guessing you're not a car enthusiast, especially with the blind hate towards one make. Guess what....I'm on a few car forums! Why? Gasp....I actually like a bunch of different types of cars. Omg, is that possible for a redneck, mullet wearing, camaro lover??? Who knew?

[mateo]

So I'm guessing you're not a car enthusiast, especially with the blind hate towards one make. Guess what....I'm on a few car forums! Why? Gasp....I actually like a bunch of different types of cars. Omg, is that possible for a redneck, mullet wearing, camaro lover??? Who knew?:rotfl:

Bump for a photo of you driving said car.

[wesessiah]

here's the old truck http://www.rithma.org/images/blogpics/Is_It_Rithma.jpg :laughing:

[BlackSS]

Bump for photo driving said car.

Actually....my brother has my mullet wig at the moment. I do wear it on occasions while driving, usually gets a rise outta people. Amazing, I have a sense of humor too and realize what kinda car I drive. It gets fucking tiring being down to earth and sensible sometimes.....you should try it.

[TPDuke112]

:rotfl:

Bump for a photo of you driving said car.

http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/781260659.jpg?1187613822

pic of me driving my mullet car.

[mateo]

I'm down to earth. Nice truck,

[mateo]

http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/781260659.jpg?1187613822

pic of me driving my mullet car.

Close up of the DO.

[BlackSS]

here's the old truck http://www.rithma.org/images/blogpics/Is_It_Rithma.jpg :laughing:

Damn shame my fat ass ain't that skinny, lol.

[TPDuke112]

Close up of the DO.

lol, I have short hair and I was wearing an Oakland Athletics hat.

[mateo]

lol, I have short hair and I was wearing an Oakland Athletics hat.I see that. A's rule!

I've never seen a Brother w/a mullet.

[TPDuke112]

I see that. A's rule!

I've never seen a Brother w/a mullet.

<--huge Athletics fan

[mateo]

<--huge Athletics fan

I'm a Ex-Oakland Boy, so yeah.

LOL...This is the closest thing I could come with as far as a brother w/mullet,

http://forums.clubrsx.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=295428&d=1201496376

[TPDuke112]

lol, dont think I have ever seen a black guy with a mullet.....

[mateo]

lol, dont think I have ever seen a black guy with a mullet.....
Yep. Asford is the only brother I have even seen w/something even close to that look.

[DC5hondaintegra]

mateo i know you have contributed a lot to this site in the S/C section, but in here your are starting to sound a lot like a fanboy/troll.

[mateo]

starting to sound a lot like a fanboy/troll.
Get over it, or go buy yourself a Camaro...:blah:

[Zedicous]

So I'm guessing you're not a car enthusiast, especially with the blind hate towards one make. Guess what....I'm on a few car forums! Why? Gasp....I actually like a bunch of different types of cars. Omg, is that possible for a redneck, mullet wearing, camaro lover??? Who knew?

lol, i love it.. A true car lover hates none of them...
I don't care for Hyundai's but i wouldn't say i hate them..

[Zedicous]

IRS = independent rear suspension. IRS has more loss than solid axle....specially the tiny 10 bolts. Slight differences in the cam are only from '97-'00. '01-'02 f-bodies and y-bodies have the same cam (hence why '01-'02 f-bodies didn't have egr like the y-bodies). The "power difference" you feel between the two cars has to do with weight and gear ratios in the tranny and rear end....not the engine itself.

But with the tranny in the rear it gives a totally different feel, A C5 feels more like a fast luxury car and a camaro more like a muscle car.

[Zedicous]

wait, is this debate about a bolt on rsx vs camaro ss or a supercharged rsx vs camaro ss? I'm confused now.

RSX with some bolt ons and a stock SS i believe.

[BlackSS]

But with the tranny in the rear it gives a totally different feel, A C5 feels more like a fast luxury car and a camaro more like a muscle car.

agreed, a C5 is a fairly good performer in the world of road tracks. Although i wouldn't quite describe it as a "luxury car" lol.

[Zedicous]

Give me any Camaro to drive for just one day. From just that drive alone the fucking thing will require [mr-not-so-goodwrench.] Service.

Why? Why do you think they took them off the Market? It is not because they were good cars, or because they were selling.

Thats the biggest line of bull i've ever heard. I've got a 99 C5 and the only thing i've ever had to change was a belt, the car just turned 40,000 and looks and rides like a brand new car. The 98 Z28 has 135,000 miles and the only thing i've ever had to change was an alternator..
And if that last statement was true why do you think they are bringing them back.
The new Challenger looks pretty mean too and the TA is also coming back too.

[mateo]

Good lord another. Your logged into the wrong place. Last time I checked the resale on those things, it Sucked.

I hope you like um, because they own you.

[DC5hondaintegra]

i love rsx's but you still sound like a douche to me

[mateo]

i love rsx's but you still sound like a douche to me Likewise.

[18psi]

lol...so much hatred in this place makes me happy:mam:

[DC5hondaintegra]

maybe if i showed blind faith to an inferior platform just to satisfy my over-inflated ego you would think more highly of me

[mateo]

maybe if i showed blind faith to an inferior platform just to satisfy my over-inflated ego you would think more highly of me

Maybe. Maybe not. You should something like that a try. Oh, and good luck with that.

[18psi]

hey mateo, did you at some point used to live in norcal? i coulda swore i saw you in the local norcal boards

[Zedicous]

agreed, a C5 is a fairly good performer in the world of road tracks. Although i wouldn't quite describe it as a "luxury car" lol.

Its a great place to start and gets better over the years. Look at the new C6 Z06 or the new ZR1 soon to be out. A supercharged C6 Z06 is a mean a$$ car. I've even seen C5's pushing hp in the 700-800 range. How about the Lingenfelter when it first came out for the C5 pushing 1000 crank hp. I can still send mine to Kentucky for that but i don't have 40k, at least not for that. I'll build it slowly instead. From the ride, being able to check temps on everthing, to seeing how much air is in each tire, to memory controls that keep everytihng down to the cd or station its on, id say that is pretty luxurious.

[Zedicous]

Good lord another. Your logged into the wrong place. Last time I checked the resale on those things, it Sucked.

I hope you like um, because they own you.

My 99 C5 is worth more than my 06 RSX-S, so i don't see what your talking about.
I noticed a 78 Corvette with 17k miles for 26k. I'd say they keep pretty well. Back in the 70's the car was probably at least half that new.. I wish i could of bought it..

[BlackSS]

bought my car a year and a half ago for 11,500. Still worth around 10,500-11,000. Doesn't sound bad to me. Didn't plan on selling this car when I bought it.....therefore didn't care about resale value. It's like you're reading from the rsx excuse hand book. "When all else fails bring up interior, resale value, and hp/liter in that order"

[mateo]

bought my car a year and a half ago for 11,500. Still worth around 10,500-11,000. Doesn't sound bad to me. Didn't plan on selling this car when I bought it.....therefore didn't care about resale value.

Thats fine. However, GM's are worth "Back-of-Book" value regardless. End of story.

Just don't buy one new, unless you plan on having it own you for a long ass time.

[BlackSS]

Thats fine. However, GM's are worth "Back-of-Book" value regardless. End of story.

Just don't buy one new, unless you plan on having it own you for a long ass time.

Or have a reasonable down payment like ANYONE SHOULD when buying a brand new car. Buying a new car (whether the rsx with one of the greatest resale value eva!!!, or a GM) with little or no money down because they are having a huge sale at a dealership is absolutely moronic. A car is not an investment, you should never get a loan for a new car near the full price. You have to get ahead from the get go and stay there.....that goes for ANY car. Hp/liter should be your next argument...I'm waiting.

[Zedicous]

Or have a reasonable down payment like ANYONE SHOULD when buying a brand new car. Buying a new car (whether the rsx with one of the greatest resale value eva!!!, or a GM) with little or no money down because they are having a huge sale at a dealership is absolutely moronic. A car is not an investment, you should never get a loan for a new car near the full price. You have to get ahead from the get go and stay there.....that goes for ANY car. Hp/liter should be your next argument...I'm waiting.

He probably thinks a trailer for a house is an investment too..

Just curious why an SS guy is in a RSX base. I have an RSX and thats what brought me here, how about you?

[mateo]

You can compare GM in resale to a Honda. Buy your GM w/nothing out of pocket, you will lose.
a Honda w/nothing out of pocket, you'll be just fine. Why? Because Honda's are worth Book all day long. Or, book plus!

I don't care if I ever buy another Honda, but you would not catch me on some GM board if I had one. Whats the point in that, unless you love the drama.

Unsubscribed.

[BlackSS]

He probably thinks a trailer for a house is an investment too..

Just curious why an SS guy is in a RSX base. I have an RSX and thats what brought me here, how about you?

Ran into a s/c rsx when I had a couple of bolt ons. Beat him by about 5 or so lengths. Came on here to tell about the run and give props to the little car for keeping up like it did. Once I got in here, I saw how hilarious it can get with some of the fanbois and noticed many others that don't have rsx's in here too. So I figured I'd stick around for the humor when dumb asses come around and post stupid shit.

[Gotboost98]

You can compare GM in resale to a Honda. Buy your GM w/nothing out of pocket, you will lose.
a Honda w/nothing out of pocket, you'll be just fine. Why? Because Honda's are worth Book all day long. Or, book plus!

I don't care if I ever buy another Honda, but you would not catch me on some GM board if I had one. Whats the point in that, unless you love the drama.

Unsubscribed.

:lawl: someones mad vettes an lsx motors own his pathetic car

[Doward]

You can compare GM in resale to a Honda. Buy your GM w/nothing out of pocket, you will lose.
a Honda w/nothing out of pocket, you'll be just fine. Why? Because Honda's are worth Book all day long. Or, book plus!

I don't care if I ever buy another Honda, but you would not catch me on some GM board if I had one. Whats the point in that, unless you love the drama.

Unsubscribed.

LOL. At the end of the day, you still own a Honda ;)

I'm not hatin' tho - I hear RSX's have great interiors.

:weeeeeeeeee:


In all seriousness, you're just a fanboy. Any real gear head is going to give and get props from his/her peers, irregardless of what he/she drives.

You know why? It's all in how you present yourself to your peers.

Thus far, you're a douche, mateo. Prime example is BlackSS coming on to give props to a s/c RSX for keeping up so decently.

Seems to me, you're just another pussy that can dish it out, but can't take it. Maybe you should put the wrench down and step away from the garage.

Just one man's meager opinion ;)

[Gotboost98]

id be mad too if I put 5 in power mods an only trapped 110 at best.

[Drewk20z1]

Unsubscribed.

oh no!!

[teamfastasknutz]

Or have a reasonable down payment like ANYONE SHOULD when buying a brand new car. Buying a new car (whether the rsx with one of the greatest resale value eva!!!, or a GM) with little or no money down because they are having a huge sale at a dealership is absolutely moronic. A car is not an investment, you should never get a loan for a new car near the full price. You have to get ahead from the get go and stay there.....that goes for ANY car. Hp/liter should be your next argument...I'm waiting.


actually no, when buying a car, it's key to not try to have to pay for a down payment. Down payments are there only if you have low credit or want your monthly payments to be lower. But general rule is every 1k that you down, your monthly payments go down by only 10 bucks. IF you are buying a used car, the more you down, you might get a lower interest rate but not much.

Why buying a new car, there really is no reason to have a downpayment unless you are using your trade in car as one but most people use that as a cash back option. New cars, you can get 0% finance rate. But with specialty cars or sports cars, you will get a 2.9-4.9 which is very low. My Z, i only had to pay a 4.9%.

I will agree that american cars do have a lower resale value. Hell, i have had friends that buy expensive trucks, that their resale value has gone down faster than what they have been paying for the car. Now that's a bad predicament..

[04azuremach]

This thread is gay LSX FTW

[TYPEzachS]

:lawl: someones mad vettes an lsx motors own his pathetic car

Stop trolling geez your obviously not some gear head here to share some knowledge so GTFO and stop being a drama queen.

[Zer0 7]

You can compare GM in resale to a Honda. Buy your GM w/nothing out of pocket, you will lose.
a Honda w/nothing out of pocket, you'll be just fine. Why? Because Honda's are worth Book all day long. Or, book plus!

I don't care if I ever buy another Honda, but you would not catch me on some GM board if I had one. Whats the point in that, unless you love the drama.

Unsubscribed.

You belong here, another troll with blind faith to a "performance car" that will barely break out of 13s after throwing too much money at it, whose sole argument is that the rsx has a better resale value:thumbsup:. So after spending countless hours and money on your s/c setup have you broken into the 12s yet?

[BlackSS]

actually no, when buying a car, it's key to not try to have to pay for a down payment. Down payments are there only if you have low credit or want your monthly payments to be lower. But general rule is every 1k that you down, your monthly payments go down by only 10 bucks. IF you are buying a used car, the more you down, you might get a lower interest rate but not much.

Why buying a new car, there really is no reason to have a downpayment unless you are using your trade in car as one but most people use that as a cash back option. New cars, you can get 0% finance rate. But with specialty cars or sports cars, you will get a 2.9-4.9 which is very low. My Z, i only had to pay a 4.9%.

I will agree that american cars do have a lower resale value. Hell, i have had friends that buy expensive trucks, that their resale value has gone down faster than what they have been paying for the car. Now that's a bad predicament..

Still not understanding.....0 money down and even with 0% financing....as soon as you leave the lot with a "new" vehicle, it becomes used. The price drops right away and you are already in the hole. Are you just saying that after a year or so the payments you make will overcome the depreciation value on a BRAND NEW car?

[teamfastasknutz]

Still not understanding.....0 money down and even with 0% financing....as soon as you leave the lot with a "new" vehicle, it becomes used. The price drops right away and you are already in the hole. Are you just saying that after a year or so the payments you make will overcome the depreciation value on a BRAND NEW car?

You won't be in the hole when leaving the lot on a brand new car. Your car payments (especially with 0 financing) will exeed the depreciation each year. Unless you put A LOT of miles and mess up the car in different ways.

What you have to understand that most people don't ever keep their cars. Putting money down on a car you would keep for a long time..maybe but if you can get a car with 0 down and you can afford the monthly payments, why put money down?

If you are buying super used cars (more than 100k miles and exceed 8k in price), then yes, sometimes the only way is to put money down. Try getting a private loan for a car like that..it wont' happen with no money down.

[04azuremach]

If you put enough money down you can make the payments the same as it would have been for 1 or 2 less years on the loan. Well worth it to have it paid off a year early IMO.

[teamfastasknutz]

If you put enough money down you can make the payments the same as it would have been for 1 or 2 less years on the loan. Well worth it to have it paid off a year early IMO.

why would you do that? What is the point to that? You do know you can use that money after you have bought a car as well right? There is no need to put more money down at the day of buying the car..that is just stupid.

A person with mediocre credit can get a expensive car as well. Go ahead and pay 50% of the cost of a car you want. Lets say a 70k corvettte. Give them 35k and then finance 35k. Banks will give you a loan right away, because they want you to fail. Either way, it's a win-win situation for them.

Seems like people on here aren't very smart with buying cars.

[Gotboost98]

Stop trolling geez your obviously not some gear head here to share some knowledge so GTFO and stop being a drama queen.

actually I know a lot, an ive forgotten more than you could fathom child.:coffee: check more negs

[Zedicous]

Ran into a s/c rsx when I had a couple of bolt ons. Beat him by about 5 or so lengths. Came on here to tell about the run and give props to the little car for keeping up like it did. Once I got in here, I saw how hilarious it can get with some of the fanbois and noticed many others that don't have rsx's in here too. So I figured I'd stick around for the humor when dumb asses come around and post stupid shit.

Respect given as earned..

[Zedicous]

id be mad too if I put 5 in power mods an only trapped 110 at best.

There is no replacment for displacment..

[Zedicous]

actually no, when buying a car, it's key to not try to have to pay for a down payment. Down payments are there only if you have low credit or want your monthly payments to be lower. But general rule is every 1k that you down, your monthly payments go down by only 10 bucks. IF you are buying a used car, the more you down, you might get a lower interest rate but not much.

Why buying a new car, there really is no reason to have a downpayment unless you are using your trade in car as one but most people use that as a cash back option. New cars, you can get 0% finance rate. But with specialty cars or sports cars, you will get a 2.9-4.9 which is very low. My Z, i only had to pay a 4.9%.

I will agree that american cars do have a lower resale value. Hell, i have had friends that buy expensive trucks, that their resale value has gone down faster than what they have been paying for the car. Now that's a bad predicament..


Keep in mind that when buying a car its usually never a good investment.

[Zedicous]

You won't be in the hole when leaving the lot on a brand new car. Your car payments (especially with 0 financing) will exeed the depreciation each year. Unless you put A LOT of miles and mess up the car in different ways.

What you have to understand that most people don't ever keep their cars. Putting money down on a car you would keep for a long time..maybe but if you can get a car with 0 down and you can afford the monthly payments, why put money down?

If you are buying super used cars (more than 100k miles and exceed 8k in price), then yes, sometimes the only way is to put money down. Try getting a private loan for a car like that..it wont' happen with no money down.

The second you drive a new car of the lot it depreciates, thats a fact..

[Zedicous]

Now back to the question from the original post, if the RSX isn't boosted the SS will smoke you..

[TYPEzachS]

actually I know a lot, an ive forgotten more than you could fathom child.:coffee: check more negs

Im sure you do know a lot so why don't you share some knowledge instead of posting stupid insults and bullshit thats what ive been trying to get across to you the whole fucking time.

[braceyaselfrsx]

Im sure you do know a lot so why don't you share some knowledge instead of posting stupid insults and bullshit thats what ive been trying to get across to you the whole fucking time.

wheres the fun in that

[VtecEater08]

Who cares about resale value?

FACT: My new car will smoke the shit out of alll of you on the bottle, even the mustanks here

[Blown330]

Try getting a private loan for a car like that..it wont' happen with no money down.


I bought all my beater cars doing just that.

[Blown330]

Seems like people on here aren't very smart with buying cars.

You aren't very smart....period. You don't seem to be catching on to the difference between enthusiasts who buy their cars with the intent to own and those who'd rather lease or extend their payment terms for years with no down payments. The latter pay MORE in the long run. Just like buying a house...you want the most return you pay more upfront.

[braceyaselfrsx]

Who cares about resale value?

FACT: My new car will smoke the shit out of alll of you on the bottle, even the mustanks here

I hope your running mid 10s or better :stfu:

[braceyaselfrsx]

You aren't very smart....period. You don't seem to be catching on to the difference between enthusiasts who buy their cars with the intent to own and those who'd rather lease or extend their payment terms for years with no down payments. The latter pay MORE in the long run. Just like buying a house...you want the most return you pay more upfront.

pwnt:thumbsup:

[teamfastasknutz]

I bought all my beater cars doing just that.


how are you getting private loans with cars more than 100k miles?

[teamfastasknutz]

You aren't very smart....period. You don't seem to be catching on to the difference between enthusiasts who buy their cars with the intent to own and those who'd rather lease or extend their payment terms for years with no down payments. The latter pay MORE in the long run. Just like buying a house...you want the most return you pay more upfront.

Sorry, you seem to be dumb as well.

ok, so read back what i said. Why would you pay up front more the day buying the car than if you used that money the next month paying on the loan? If you are buying a used car with higher interest rate, the first year paying for the car, that money is basically going to interest and not principle of the actual car. You can actually beat interest rates if you pay more money each month then what is due. This will make the interest rate go down. Please get a clue.

[teamfastasknutz]

The second you drive a new car of the lot it depreciates, thats a fact..

Of course it depreciates, but it won't depreciate more than what you are paying for the car. Does anyone know anything about buying cars?

[teamfastasknutz]

pwnt:thumbsup:

sure :rolleyes:

[Gotboost98]

Your going to get owned when blown gets back^ :popcorn: :rotfl:

[teamfastasknutz]

Your going to get owned when blown gets back^ :popcorn: :rotfl:

yay, i'm going to get OWNED! lol..

[Zedicous]

how are you getting private loans with cars more than 100k miles?

A bank will lend you the money for one but no more than what the Blue Books says its worth..

[Zedicous]

Of course it depreciates, but it won't depreciate more than what you are paying for the car. Does anyone know anything about buying cars?

Of course it does, if you pay 20k and lose 2k when you leave, do you think your loan is now for 18k..Considering i have 4 cars now and 10 more before that, i do know what i'm talking about. But then again the last 6 i paid cash for them..

[teamfastasknutz]

Of course it does, if you pay 20k and lose 2k when you leave, do you think your loan is now for 18k..Considering i have 4 cars now and 10 more before that, i do know what i'm talking about. But then again the last 6 i paid cash for them..

Let's say you got a loan for 20k at 0% financing. Technically, you don't own the car, the bank does. If you leave the dealership, like you said, example, it depreciates 2k right off the bat. Your car payment for a 5 year regular term is 333 per month. At the end of the year, you will be paying for a car that didn't depreciate more than you are paying it for. With some american cars, yes it will depreciate more at the end of the year than what you are paying.

Let's say if you traded it in within that year, you will lose money. But then agian, with every trade in, you will lose money.

For an example, i bought a scion XA as my daily driver in 2006. I bought brand new with 0% financing. It bought it out the door for a little over 14k. i believe it was 14,1xx. It currently has 42k miles on it and is two years old. The kelly blue book price on the vehicle with those miles and year is 13,670.

http://www.kbb.com/KBB/UsedCars/PricingReport.aspx?ManufacturerId=45&YearId=2006&VehicleClass=UsedCar&VehicleId=1469&SelectionHistory=1469%7c18896%7c95210%7c0%7c0%7c57 348%7ctrue%7c57413%7ctrue%7c57394%7ctrue&PriceType=Retail&Mileage=42000&ModelId=267&Condition=Excellent

i will be done paying for the vehicle at the end of this year. I will have very little loss in money with this car. Scion is on the top 10 list of best resale value. As you can see, it was a good investment. Miles seem to not effect this car at all.



Now i can name you some cars/trucks you will lose money one. Ford trucks, chevy trucks, pontiac gto, most GM cars. ETC.


Do you get what i mean now? So can you tell me where it depreciate so bad? It all depends on the car. When i'm done with it this year, i will be selling it and buying another daily driver. I'm going to keep my 350z though. It's too good of a sports car to let go.

[teamfastasknutz]

And since we are on the subject on depreciation.

For those of you who want to put a lot of down payment on a car. If for some odd reason you wanted to trade in your car after a year, most of your money will be gone. If you 3k down on a 20k car, and was financing the car at 17k, right then and there, if you traded in your car in at a dealership, you lost that money. Which is another reason why try to save your money.

[Blown330]

how are you getting private loans with cars more than 100k miles?


I call a nice lady at the bank and tell her I want a loan...pretty fucking simple.



Why would you pay up front more the day buying the car than if you used that money the next month paying on the loan?

Because I want to finance as little as possible. That means, in the longterm, I pay LESS for the damn car.


If you are buying a used car with higher interest rate, the first year paying for the car, that money is basically going to interest and not principle of the actual car.

Gee...isn't that how virtually ALL loans basically work? So wouldn't it make more sense to make the principal financed has low as possible.



You can actually beat interest rates if you pay more money each month then what is due. This will make the interest rate go down. Please get a clue.


No...that would make the PRINCIPAL go down. That's why there is something called a "PAYOFF AMOUNT" on the loan statement. The lower the principle the lower the amount of interest...doesn't change the RATE (which is the %) at all.


Point being is this: Let's say you have a $25,000 that you want to completely pay off in 3 years. Would you A. Take a 5% interest rate with no money down; or B. Put $10,000 down and finance the rest at 7%?

[18psi]

owned:

[teamfastasknutz]

I call a nice lady at the bank and tell her I want a loan...pretty fucking simple.





Because I want to finance as little as possible. That means, in the longterm, I pay LESS for the damn car.




Gee...isn't that how virtually ALL loans basically work? So wouldn't it make more sense to make the principal financed has low as possible.





No...that would make the PRINCIPAL go down. That's why there is something called a "PAYOFF AMOUNT" on the loan statement. The lower the principle the lower the amount of interest...doesn't change the RATE (which is the %) at all.


Point being is this: Let's say you have a $25,000 that you want to completely pay off in 3 years. Would you A. Take a 5% interest rate with no money down; or B. Put $10,000 down and finance the rest at 7%?


wow, you are so clueless with buying cars. It seems you buy cars and keep them forever or something. Also, its funny how you are taking out loans at the bank classfied under "car loans" and most banks wont' give you a loan for a car more than 100k or exceeds 8k dollars with those miles. They aren't going to give you a loan if they car might break down.

Please don't go against what i say about buying cars. Especially if you are just making stuff on top of your head. Maybe you are use to buying beater cars or something. Not sure. Putting more money down is not the way to go. If you have read all of my previous post about buying cars, you won't find anywhere i said something wrong.

I actually just looked up links for you to read. If you dont' believe me, you can believe them. I'm glad other smarter people agree with me. Read about how you avoid big down payments at all cost. Like i said, unless you have horrible credit, or scared of depreciation, dont' put a big down payment.

http://au.answers.yahoo.com/answers2/frontend.php/question?qid=20071109115358AAUrzdq

http://whalehookloans.com/2007/12/06/can-a-big-down-payment-on-a-car-loan-get-you-a-lower-interest-rate/

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Will_making_a_big_down_payment_get_you_a_lower_int erest_rate

[teamfastasknutz]

owned:

read above..you are both owned. Maybe that's why you drive a rsx. Get your head out of the gutter and actually buy cars and understand how it works.

I'll be glad to link you guys to more . I just did a quick search to actually see if there was some way i was actually wrong about this. Me working at a body shop, working with people's prices on their cars, loans, you name it, and my wife is a freakin loan officer...i laugh at you guys. Get real.

[teamfastasknutz]

Anymore questions about buying a car, please do ask. I'll be more than happy to tell you guys how it goes. Most of you probably had parents buying your cars. Blown330 sounds like a high school kid that likes to argue. Please understand i didn't want to argue, more of teaching. I can also tell you guys about mortgage, PMI, etc if you would like.

[18psi]

"i laugh at you guys" wow, yeah you got us good:rolleyes:
none of what you posted "owns" us in any way...when you put more down, you have less to pay off, therefore have less interest

[teamfastasknutz]

"i laugh at you guys" wow, yeah you got us good:rolleyes:
none of what you posted "owns" us in any way...when you put more down, you have less to pay off, therefore have less interest

exactly, so you putting owned towards me means what? Do you even pay for your own car?

Your last simple statement is so 1 dimensional.

[DC5hondaintegra]

teamfastasknutz is retarded and doesn't understand how loans work. if you keep "teaching" us we will all be bankrupt in the near future. thanks for the advice, but i think i will listen to my finance professors instead...

[teamfastasknutz]

teamfastasknutz is retarded and doesn't understand how loans work. if you keep "teaching" us we will all be bankrupt in the near future. thanks for the advice, but i think i will listen to my finance professors instead...


Your post was obviously dumb. You are just here to argue with me because your
"peers" are doing the same. If you think you are so smart about this subject want want to stick your nose in, i would be happy to read why you type on what the right thing to do. Probably unlike you, i have bought, paid on my own rsx, sold and moved on.

[DC5hondaintegra]

Your post was obviously dumb. You are just here to argue with me because your
"peers" are doing the same. If you think you are so smart about this subject want want to stick your nose in, i would be happy to read why you type on what the right thing to do. Probably unlike you, i have bought, paid on my own rsx, sold and moved on.

i just thought that it was funny that you are trying to ridicule people about their financial decisions when you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. it's kind of ironic if you think about it. stick to what you know, which obviously isn't in the realm of finance.

[Blown330]

I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about but I can try and Google it.


Sorry kid, you don't have the experience here. I've bought, traded, leased, ect. cars (even the odd boat or two) for years. For someone who buys a car with the INTENTION of keeping it the best way to go is to pay as much of it upfront regardless of the interest rate. My dad just bought my mom a nice little CLK 350, his credit is perfect, and what did he do? Put about $20,000 down upfront. Why? Because he knew it would save money in the longterm. It didn't really matter about the monthly payments or whatever as the car is mostly written off as a business expense. He just wanted to make the best deal and that is what he always does. Also, nothing in those links you posted really apply in this discussion, just the symptoms of someone Google'ing shit to come up with an argument. Maybe you've deal with fucked up banks or lenders in the past...your problem.



Also, why would someone with a handle "teamfastasnutz" own a 350Z....a team of 350Z's is anything but fast....:laughing:

[teamfastasknutz]

You guys are getting mixed up with mortgate and auto payments. Mortgage is what you want to put a lot of money down it. It will never depreciate, maybe it might say where it is, but should never go below what you are buying it for.

An auto loan, like i said before, if you dont' want a flip flop car depreciation, then a bigger down payment would do but why on earth would you put down more than 20 percent? Like i said, dont' do it on the day you buy the car, do it after you got your car . Add it into the principle of the value of the car after each car payment. Your final rate will go down at the end of each year.

[teamfastasknutz]

i just thought that it was funny that you are trying to ridicule people about their financial decisions when you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. it's kind of ironic if you think about it. stick to what you know, which obviously isn't in the realm of finance.

again, please post what i wrote that is wrong, and tell me what is right. IF not, go away and show that you know nothing.

[18psi]

exactly, so you putting owned towards me means what? Do you even pay for your own car?

Your last simple statement is so 1 dimensional.

actually, i bought both of my wrx's (07 and 05) with my own money, cash....
and i also bought all 4 of my rsx's with cash.....
i now own a house, 2 wrx's, a corolla (for the wife), and a jetski....
not a single thing was financed (except for the house of course lol) all bought with my own hard earned cash....
any questions?

btw, it is completely idiotic to tell someone that financing with no money down is smart..please take a look at what you're saying.....if you put money down, that much of the car is ALREADY PAID OFF, and you are financing (or borrowing with interest) LESS money. meaning even if your percentage is slightly higher, you still end up saving money in the long run....whats better, to pay 5% of 20k or 6% of 10?

[DC5hondaintegra]

You guys are getting mixed up with mortgate and auto payments. Mortgage is what you want to put a lot of money down it. It will never depreciate, maybe it might say where it is, but should never go below what you are buying it for.

An auto loan, like i said before, if you dont' want a flip flop car depreciation, then a bigger down payment would do but why on earth would you put down more than 20 percent? Like i said, dont' do it on the day you buy the car, do it after you got your car . Add it into the principle of the value of the car after each car payment. Your final rate will go down at the end of each year.

...you can't cure stupid...