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FrIsCo RsX
06-29-2005, 12:07 PM
03 RSX-S, lets duke it out in here. 03 RSX-S believes that JDM is just a fad like von dutch trucker hats and that its stupid and all overpriced and ugly and will die in a few years. I believe that JDM is a unique sense of style that is rare here in the states which makes it truly stand out on its own and that the quality and limited quantity that they are produced in make them worth getting. Basically, contribute your opinions regarding JDM whether positive/negative in this thread and let the rest of the section flow and progress. Yes i know there already a thread made about this in the past, but it's posted in a section where 75% of the people have no clue as to what we're even talking about. Contribute your opinions!

Budweiser03
06-29-2005, 12:16 PM
... a fad like von dutch trucker hats and that its stupid and all overpriced and ugly and will die in a few years.

You mean those aren't "in" anymore...dammit :( .

But yeah, about JDM, it's somthing that isn't going to die. I mean, what would replace it? JDM style will always be around seeing as there will probably always be a Japanese Domestic Market. Though styles may change inside the Japanese Domestic Market, there will always be a JDM Style. IMO :thumbsup:

peteguillette
06-29-2005, 12:20 PM
the only way jdm will die is if jdm became usdm across the board

shitagi
06-29-2005, 12:24 PM
fad my ass , Wasnt imports a fad , wasnt drifting a fad ....Hes full of shit . He is a the ultimate walking fad haha.

rsxtaci
06-29-2005, 12:27 PM
*sigh*

03RSX-S
06-29-2005, 12:29 PM
JDM used to be unique 3 years back, very few people had a JDM looking car, now everyone and his mother has a JDM looking car. For example type R spoilers 3 years ago few people had them, now every other clubrsx member has one or plans to get one.

JDM is a fad because its the "cool" thing to do now, just like altezzas and apc wings were the new hotness once, JDM now is that. And I'm not talking about aftermarket JDM parts, I'm talking about OEM JDM parts, "omg omg omg JDM coin holder", little stuff like that, that costs 100 bucks. Now the new fad is drifting, and every JDM civic owner is getting a JDM AE86 hachiroku.

Aftermarket parts are of course great, but if you have a better USDM product for less, you'd be a fool to buy the JDM product just to say, I'm JDM yo.

FrIsCo RsX
06-29-2005, 12:33 PM
fad my ass , Wasnt imports a fad , wasnt drifting a fad ....Hes full of shit . He is a the ultimate walking fad haha.
nah respect his opinion

shitagi
06-29-2005, 12:34 PM
hmm so you play into fads then eh , sold your hondas to buy a 240sx . stop talking your a ricer .

03RSX-S
06-29-2005, 12:39 PM
hmm so you play into fads then eh , sold your hondas to buy a 240sx . stop talking your a ricer .
reason I picked up the 240, is because I only have 1 car, and everytime I had to sell a car, I needed to pick up a car asap, and usually ended up with a combo I didn't like...like the integra is silver :thumbsdow

the 240 I was looking cheap used cars on honda-tech, and it was either a 89 civic with no interior, and 250K miles on the motor. For $1400. Or the 240 that I found 93 for $1150, that mechanically ran perfect. Also had some 16 inch rims which i'm selling as soon as I pick up a set of steelies on monday.

And yeah you'll say why modify it then? Well because I don't like to drive cars that handle like shit, and stock the 240 sucks ass in the handling department+ parts are cheap, and for 3K I can have a quick car, that handles nicely, which I'll always be able to sell for 5K on eba.

EVega
06-29-2005, 12:43 PM
reason I picked up the 240, is because I only have 1 car, and everytime I had to sell a car, I needed to pick up a car asap, and usually ended up with a combo I didn't like...like the integra is silver :thumbsdow

the 240 I was looking cheap used cars on honda-tech, and it was either a 89 civic with no interior, and 250K miles on the motor. For $1400. Or the 240 that I found 93 for $1150, that mechanically ran perfect. Also had some 16 inch rims which i'm selling as soon as I pick up a set of steelies on monday.

And yeah you'll say why modify it then? Well because I don't like to drive cars that handle like shit, and stock the 240 sucks ass in the handling department+ parts are cheap, and for 3K I can have a quick car, that handles nicely, which I'll always be able to sell for 5K on eba.

I really dont wanna jump into this but didnt u say all cars are the same basicly?
Said sumthin about all cars have 4 wheels and are pretty much the same

shitagi
06-29-2005, 12:44 PM
then why even care to post about something your not interested in , Why waste your time , Are you tryin to convince us otherwise ? Your funny , I dont get it .

03RSX-S
06-29-2005, 12:46 PM
Yes, if they are in good(newish) condition.

The civic had no interior, and by that I mean there were no seats in the car. + it was the STD version which had like a 4 speed transmission. 240 was more or less perfect mechanically, cheaper and newer too :P

03RSX-S
06-29-2005, 12:46 PM
then why even care to post about something your not interested in , Why waste your time , Are you tryin to convince us otherwise ? Your funny , I dont get it .

I'm bored :P Nothing to do :dontknow:

I'm trying to show my point, that going all out JDM is kinda dumb imho

turbok20a
06-29-2005, 12:50 PM
As long as japanese domestic market cars vary from the US models, there will likely be a JDM niche. Not sure if that holds true for the spo-com market in japan or not, i dont know their trends AS well.

shitagi
06-29-2005, 12:52 PM
well go to japan and find out , Japan is a walking city of trends . Its the die hard fans that keep it alive .

shitagi
06-29-2005, 12:52 PM
exactly you dont get it so dont even try .

03RSX-S
06-29-2005, 12:53 PM
Hey the 240 will get a silvia front and a silvia engine so hey it'll be "JDM", no JDM coin holders tho :P

Budweiser03
06-29-2005, 12:54 PM
JDM is a style and everyone has their own way of doing it. I chose the RSX, other people are entitled to use whatever they want as long as it's an import.

shitagi
06-29-2005, 12:57 PM
actually there are jdm coin holders for the silvia haha, So why bother buying the jdm front end then , its a waste of money right , Doesnt do anything performance wise , you dont know what you like do you , you just like arguing.

03RSX-S
06-29-2005, 01:02 PM
actually there are jdm coin holders for the silvia haha, So why bother buying the jdm front end then , its a waste of money right , Doesnt do anything performance wise , you dont know what you like do you , you just like arguing.
Because I'll probably be buying a half cut, and it'll be better to buy one that has engine and front end together. And JDM front end is a good thing to have when selling the car ;)

FrIsCo RsX
06-29-2005, 01:05 PM
let's try to keep this thread as an educated debate and not an argument guys

FrIsCo RsX
06-29-2005, 01:32 PM
03 RSX-S, i remember you mention a few days ago about why people would modify their cars to look like what comes stock in Japan, so i wanted to elaborate more on that...

Yea, it's stock in Japan, but that's the whole point. i've never seen an actual dc5r rolling around the streets in this country besides at shows. the whole point about getting type r stuff is due to the fact that they are rare and hard to come by. those parts are imported and aren't at your everyday aftermarket stores. i see more rsxs with volks than i do with itr rims. why do you think people with dc2's all want the jdm front end even though its stock in japan? without the itr kit, we'd all be rolling around with the oem kit on. brembo brakes that are stock in japan, i can probably name like 6 ppl on the forum that actually have them. yes, they're stock in japan, but here is america, they are oem quality parts that are hard to come by around here.

03RSX-S
06-29-2005, 01:46 PM
DC2R front end is different. With RSXs its just black out headlights(which are good), but with the JDM DC2R the whole front end is completely different. Bricks instead of 2 circles.

But yes stuff like suspension is of course great, I mean Type R rear sway bar is 110 bucks nfor 22mm, while progress is 177 for the rear non adjustable sway bar. (a lot cheaper parts than for DC2s btw). I'm more talking about useless interior stuff. $400 bucks for an airbag, just to get that little H instead of A.

RacingHart05
06-29-2005, 02:00 PM
I'm with 03RSX-S on this one. I know it won't go away, but the popularity of it should. JDM is just a trend some of you follow to conform to a certain "cool" style. You pay millions on parts that suck (not to mention they are stock parts). When instead you could buy aftermarket parts for cheaper that actually improve your car. I'm in this to have a better daily-driver that I can also have fun with on my spare time. Im in this to improve my car, not to make it 'cool'. Thats what rice is all about, doing what you think is 'cool' and not what is best. I'm fine with Type-R spoilers or things like that, because they actually look good for all you who want a better looking car. But seriously, why do you get carpets, door stills, coin holders, shift boots, and all that junk when it is basically the same part, but with different labeling. Saying that it's rare only goes so far in my mind, I can go to the thrift shop and buy a rare, unique teapot, but that doesn't mean I like it. In my opinion, the JDM's 'rare' excuse is just like the ricer's 'uniqueness' excuse, it's bullshit. But, after all is said and done, it's your car.

RSNEXT
06-29-2005, 02:03 PM
Well I don't believe in the paying $150 for a small item cuz it's JDM. Some people are into that and thats fine.

For me the only JDM parts I will buy will be something from the ITR that is better than my Type S such as an LSD, Rims (like the way they look) brake cooling ducts, and any other various item I find, that I think is better than what I already have.

Tomm
06-29-2005, 02:05 PM
Hey the 240 will get a silvia front and a silvia engine so hey it'll be "JDM", no JDM coin holders tho :P

You and every other "JDM" Silvia/240/180 owner. I dont blame you - its just better over there.

03RSX-S
06-29-2005, 02:48 PM
well the stock motor has 186K on it, its strong but I want more. + with nissans parts are cheap. In hondas 1500 will get you a B18B motor wtih like no potential. I'll probably go for the CA18DET cuz its cheaper. Only 900 bucks for one(no intercooler though).

FrIsCo RsX
06-29-2005, 02:56 PM
DC2R front end is different. With RSXs its just black out headlights(which are good), but with the JDM DC2R the whole front end is completely different. Bricks instead of 2 circles.

But yes stuff like suspension is of course great, I mean Type R rear sway bar is 110 bucks nfor 22mm, while progress is 177 for the rear non adjustable sway bar. (a lot cheaper parts than for DC2s btw). I'm more talking about useless interior stuff. $400 bucks for an airbag, just to get that little H instead of A.
i'll agree with you on the steering wheel part. when i refer to the type r stuff i'm talking about noticeable stuff like rims, brakes, kits, wing, seats, shit like that, not coinholders. i remember you said why make your car look like the type r's in japan, so that's why.

MueveloNYC
06-29-2005, 02:57 PM
frisco, what the hell man I told you to drop it since you're only instigating a response from him by doing this. If you want to duke it out, take it to PM's/IM's as we had enough of it already in the other thread. This isn't a soap box forum nor a popularity contest. This thread could go on until you :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse

NAisbestdc5
06-29-2005, 02:58 PM
JDM parts are better quality in most cases. I'd only buy a JDM part.

MueveloNYC
06-29-2005, 03:04 PM
JDM parts are better quality in most cases. I'd only buy a JDM part.

Not necessarily... Ask all those folks who had the Greddy turbos burn their car down to the asphalt. :(

Now others are very consistent with their technologies and research. Take for example Cusco products.

General Tso
06-29-2005, 03:06 PM
Not necessarily... Ask all those folks who had the Greddy turbos burn their car down to the asphalt. :(

Now others are very consistent with their technologies and research. Take for example Cusco products.

ask all the people with cybernation's guardian kits that are blowing up

but i dont want to get into that now

Budweiser03
06-29-2005, 03:09 PM
I'm going to stay JDM as much as possible. It's good to shop around too to find the best quality. An open mind is the best way to go about shoping for parts, and looking for quality.

NAisbestdc5
06-29-2005, 03:11 PM
Not necessarily... Ask all those folks who had the Greddy turbos burn their car down to the asphalt. :(

Now others are very consistent with their technologies and research. Take for example Cusco products.

Good point, I have read about that. The RSX wasn't made to be turbo though so that might be part of the problem. But the other kits have show that it can be done.

Big Cam
06-29-2005, 03:42 PM
I like JDM just because I like the stock look, but the JDM cars "stock" is almost like a modded US stock. Very subtle yet cool. Functional and good looking.

JDM may be a fad, but I like it and don't care what anyone else thinks.

truEvo05
06-29-2005, 03:48 PM
Thats what rice is all about, doing what you think is 'cool' and not what is best.

I'm sorry but I didn't know having personal interests and opinions were ricey. :dontknow:

FrIsCo RsX
06-29-2005, 04:04 PM
another thing with the jdm craze is also the wow factor that it brings. show up at a car show with advans, cusco roll cage, some project mu brakes and you'll fade out like half the cars there because those items aren't common. stoptechs/wilwoods, magnaflow, comptech (although quality is superb) and other domestic brands are all too common in the states and don't bring much of a wow factor with them

FrIsCo RsX
06-29-2005, 04:14 PM
btw +reps for all for being able to debate without arguing

Big Cam
06-29-2005, 04:19 PM
argueing is overplayed

shitagi
06-29-2005, 04:30 PM
I'm sorry but I didn't know having personal interests and opinions were ricey. :dontknow:
thats what im sayin.+ rep for u

Budweiser03
06-29-2005, 04:33 PM
another thing with the jdm craze is also the wow factor that it brings. show up at a car show with advans, cusco roll cage, some project mu brakes and you'll fade out like half the cars there because those items aren't common. stoptechs/wilwoods, magnaflow, comptech (although quality is superb) and other domestic brands are all too common in the states and don't bring much of a wow factor with them

That is defanately true. Example, the first time I saw spoon calipers on an ek hatch with volk rims :drool: . Couldn't contain myself.

shitagi
06-29-2005, 04:39 PM
jdm owns shows , i believe you all are mistaking quality parts with crap like apc , socal ripoff kits , and ghey weapon r intakes haha.

truEvo05
06-29-2005, 04:41 PM
I agree with Frisco. JDM offers things that us USDM guys can't have. JDM allows us to make our cars unique and different than everyone else's. It shows personal expression and also the 'wow' factor to back it up. Ya aftermarket can be better, but JDM is rare and different here in the States so people crave over it to be different. IMO JDM is a good thing to have as long as it's not overplayed.

BTW, thanks for the rep guys :thumbsup:

NAisbestdc5
06-29-2005, 04:45 PM
:iamwiths:


JDM parts are rare and hard to find in some cases, and not a lot of people have them.

shitagi
06-29-2005, 04:48 PM
:iamwiths: X2

Budweiser03
06-29-2005, 04:49 PM
JDM IMO, is style with the sole purpose of function. The parts aren't meant for show, but they're better than show quality parts. Every JDM aftermarket part is designed to improve performance in some way, and the parts do so with style.

SaCH
06-29-2005, 04:57 PM
Well I don't believe in the paying $150 for a small item cuz it's JDM. Some people are into that and thats fine.

For me the only JDM parts I will buy will be something from the ITR that is better than my Type S such as an LSD, Rims (like the way they look) brake cooling ducts, and any other various item I find, that I think is better than what I already have.

the brake cooling ducts have no purpose on the usdm rsx. basically you are paying 90+ for two plastic pieces with a mesh grill.

RSNEXT
06-29-2005, 05:04 PM
the brake cooling ducts have no purpose on the usdm rsx. basically you are paying 90+ for two plastic pieces with a mesh grill.

So they don't cool the brake rotors? I plan on doing a few HPDE's with my 05-S and feel that the brake cooling ducts would help greatly. UNLESS they don't line up with the rotors for some strange reason. Please explain more.

shitagi
06-29-2005, 05:06 PM
haha yeah lets just disregard racing technology and automotive engineers , Brake cooling does work even if we have shitty breaks.

Budweiser03
06-29-2005, 05:08 PM
So they don't cool the brake rotors? I plan on doing a few HPDE's with my 05-S and feel that the brake cooling ducts would help greatly. UNLESS they don't line up with the rotors for some strange reason. Please explain more.


You should probably talk to one of the guys who has Type R suspension and Brembos. I'm not sure if the Ducts would line up, but the type R's track is .5 inches wider on both sides according to RSXiMUS. You should probably talk to him or someone who has them.

RSNEXT
06-29-2005, 05:10 PM
Ok, I have more research to do. Thanks.

Budweiser03
06-29-2005, 06:04 PM
Thanks for the rep, always glad to help.

uaintsokool
06-29-2005, 06:18 PM
bottom line...JDM will NEVER die

Gary Waller
06-29-2005, 06:21 PM
bottom line...JDM will NEVER die

I'm with Chirag on this one...

JDM has a reputation of class with a bit of racing about it. Nothing can top it, nothing ever will.

uaintsokool
06-29-2005, 06:23 PM
I'm with Chirag on this one...

JDM has a reputation of class with a bit of racing about it. Nothing can top it, nothing ever will.

Tis the DC5'ers responsbility to keep JDM alive!!! ha ha ha

Gary Waller
06-29-2005, 06:25 PM
Tis the DC5'ers responsbility to keep JDM alive!!! ha ha ha
That it is my man, that it is. :D

Budweiser03
06-29-2005, 06:26 PM
:iamwiths: x3


JDM is here to stay :thumbsup:

03 RSX-S
06-29-2005, 06:46 PM
which 03 are you talking about 03rsx-s or me?

I Hate That Bob Barker
06-29-2005, 06:52 PM
my problem is i dont see the whole point of drawing attention to things by saying oooh jdm. yeah my wheels are jdm, but i got them because they look nice and they are good quality, same goes with all my mods except all my suspension arms because they are good old american metal.

03 RSX-S
06-29-2005, 06:54 PM
well either way im with 03 on this one, JDM is over priced. Yea i have JDM parts liek JDM HID headlights and a wing... well i got the wing to get rid of the acura spolier but anyways both of those parts cost me nearly 2 grand just because they were JDM. why pay triple the price when you can get USDM parts for so much cheaper. and by the way 240sx's arent rice... I had a 240SX (Kouki to be exact) with a sr20det in it and it hauled ass but, it dident last long with me because of our winters.

FrIsCo RsX
06-29-2005, 06:58 PM
without jdm... no one would ever attend car shows loll. who the hell wants to see an rsx with axis rims, oem body kit, dropped on megan coilovers, obx racing pedals, and a flowmaster exhaust? jdm attracts attention. hard to get, high prices, top notch quality, limited quantities, unique style.... a trend that will not be lost anytime soon.

the high prices part does suck, but lets face it. if mugen rims were $800 a set instead of $2000 a set, everyone would have them and they'd be played out in a month. the japanese have proven to be very intelligent business people as well. just like jordan shoes. $150-175 for some damn shoes! but lets face it, niketown has a freakin line around the block everytime his retros come out even though the price is rediculous and payless shoes cover up your feet in the same manner.

03 RSX-S
06-29-2005, 06:59 PM
JDM really is no longer in limited quantities... I have about 5 websties or more that have all the same "rare" parts in stock

03 RSX-S
06-29-2005, 07:01 PM
im sure the red rim trend will end soon lol :D

FrIsCo RsX
06-29-2005, 07:05 PM
im sure the red rim trend will end soon lol :D
lol don't jinx it! i like the fact not many people have it. volks are $$$$$ and there are just so many sets out there i don't even bother turning my head to stare at them no more

03 RSX-S
06-29-2005, 07:10 PM
im not a huge fan of some jdm parts but you know there are other people that like jdm parts and would pay huge bucks jus to get the JDM quality and name because in the end thats all your paying for. if i bought jdm parts... i probably wouldent even have as many mods as i do right now because of the price... their prices are outrageous.

03 RSX-S
06-29-2005, 07:14 PM
LOL like 2 grand for new Type-R rims

libratl
06-29-2005, 07:14 PM
Item rarity determines the market value. JDM honda items are only in demand because they are comparatively rare in North America.

I'm fortunate enough to be able to visit Japan several times and also have friends (who are very fond of Japanese culture) that currently work there. I've found that "Honda" cars are not as popular in Japan, whether on street or on track, as in North America. Also, Type-R's in Japan are not very well regarded and seen as performance cars. I must say that I was initially somewhat shocked of this finding, since in Japan they get versions of Dc2 Dc5, EG, EK, EP3 that are much superior to the North America versions. But it makes sense if you think about it. You can get RX8 there cheaper than the price of a Type-S (CAD) here. Moving up a bit you can get GTR, Evo or STIs at relatively good prices. In another word, RWD cars with good hp that can also turn. In another word, if you can afford a RSX type S here, you can buy much better cars in Japan. Perhaps this will shed some light upon those of you wondering about the "trend" in Japan.

Driving a JDM Honda maybe cool in North America. But in Japan, it is not. Do whatever you will though. If purchasing H emblems, door sill, type R badges make you feel better, do it. In the end it is your hard earned money. But to me, not every JDM part justifies for its inflated price.

FrIsCo RsX
06-29-2005, 07:19 PM
im not a huge fan of some jdm parts but you know there are other people that like jdm parts and would pay huge bucks jus to get the JDM quality and name because in the end thats all your paying for. if i bought jdm parts... i probably wouldent even have as many mods as i do right now because of the price... their prices are outrageous.
they damn sure are i absolutely agree, but lets face it, by charging crazy prices, they generate a higher demand for them. ferrari's are like what 150k+ which will take you from point A to point B the same way a civic will, but we all dream of owning one. jordan shoes, they protect your feet like payless will, yet teenagers and young adults still pay 175 and line up at 2am for them, its a marketing scheme that has proven successful. if the price really turned customers off, jdm companies wouldn't be as successful as they have proven to be so far. looks like they've been taking their business classes overseas

03 RSX-S
06-29-2005, 07:19 PM
Some JDM cars also have diffrent specs... for example the JDM STi is a 2.0L and its pushing out 280hp where as the USDM STi is a 2.5L pushing out 300hp. it kinda shows that some of our cars even though they are japanese are also better.

Budweiser03
06-29-2005, 07:27 PM
Yeah, like for example our Type S has a K20Z1 (the 05 mind you) and theirs has a K20A3. But I still think they're goin cheap on us not shippin over the type R :(

MueveloNYC
06-29-2005, 07:50 PM
ask all the people with cybernation's guardian kits that are blowing up

but i dont want to get into that now

engine blowing up > car melting to molten slag...

With blown engine you keep all your other mods... :p

another thing with the jdm craze is also the wow factor that it brings. show up at a car show with advans, cusco roll cage, some project mu brakes and you'll fade out like half the cars there because those items aren't common. stoptechs/wilwoods, magnaflow, comptech (although quality is superb) and other domestic brands are all too common in the states and don't bring much of a wow factor with them

True but I guess it's really what you're going for. Funny how at car shows a completely stock Skyline will score so many more points than a nicely done honda. :dontknow: Also I guess if you're going for show, JDM will get you the points you need, although if you're going performance, you're better off looking broadly than limit yourself to mainly JDM.

Also the high prices are not only shipping but a general tarriff, aside from the importer's markup (trust me I know, I was so tempted to buy a shitload of parts there and sneak it back in a suitcase, but I know customs would see it in the xray LOL). It's a friggin great business to be in if you can pool a lot of customer base.

they damn sure are i absolutely agree, but lets face it, by charging crazy prices, they generate a higher demand for them. ferrari's are like what 150k+ which will take you from point A to point B the same way a civic will, but we all dream of owning one. jordan shoes, they protect your feet like payless will, yet teenagers and young adults still pay 175 and line up at 2am for them, its a marketing scheme that has proven successful. if the price really turned customers off, jdm companies wouldn't be as successful as they have proven to be so far. looks like they've been taking their business classes overseas

True, that price will generate some new luxury brand. ie: when Swiss watch maker Tag Heuer first came out their watches were $400. Didn't do well for nearly 6 years, until they decided to jack prices to the $1300-2000 where then they bumped rolex off for the 21-40 year old demographic. But with JDM it's not necessarily the case as the price is more from importer markup + tarriffs. Shipping only affects cost greatly if you ship low amounts. A shipping container (the ones they ship on boats) is charged by volume. $4,000 to be exact to cross the pacific (I know these numbers well as I have to deal with contract negotiation all the time). That container is really the back of an 18 wheeler tractor trailer, so you can fit a lot of parts. Thus the big importers make an insane amount of markup when they do multiple group buys at a time to fill a container.

As for shipping cars, you have to do an insane amount of paper work, let alone convincing an insurance agency to insure that thing. LOL (aside from the cost of paper clearance in Japan/US/transport and taxes for both countries + tarriffs)

I Hate That Bob Barker
06-29-2005, 07:55 PM
but have you been to a car show lately, theyve been so weak the last couple years, theres nothing new and exciting anymore, and its showing by the weak attendance.

EVega
06-29-2005, 08:02 PM
Its all about being unique to, some ppl are just willing to pay the price to have something of a higher quality and something different than what everyone else can and probably will go and get.

Budweiser03
06-29-2005, 08:04 PM
Car Meets have gotten a lot bigger though. Well atleast around the DC/Metro Area they have.

NAisbestdc5
06-29-2005, 08:07 PM
That's right, car meets are much bigger now then before. Show attendance is decent still.

fbpDC5-R
06-29-2005, 08:24 PM
Will JDM die? NO, it will always be here.

Will it continue to always be the new hottest thing? NO, just like phases of style it will come and go.

Will I still have my car done up JDM? Yes....I have always been more into the clean focused style, even when big wings and shogun body kits where the style, I was JDM (I'm talking about my old EK Hatch) and I'll still be JDM when the phase is gone.

Personally...I think there is still more left in the trend. I don't know about you, but at the local shows here in Jersey...the crazy full body kit kind of stuff is still the big winners in the shows....it seems the show judges are akways behind in the current trend....I think when we begin seeing all the JDM cars winning at the shows, then we'll know the trend is over...LOL

Rich

FrIsCo RsX
06-29-2005, 08:30 PM
Car Meets have gotten a lot bigger though. Well atleast around the DC/Metro Area they have.
same here in california. you guys here about the honda meet at eibach down in LA a few months back? 400 cars showed up, most were done up jdm from the pics and vids i saw

NAisbestdc5
06-29-2005, 08:30 PM
:thumbsup: I can agree with that

MueveloNYC
06-29-2005, 08:41 PM
car events have gotten bigger, but it's like hip hop influences now with spinner rims, 28 inch rims, and other just overboard stuff. :p

I miss clean looking cars that are well done and just baddass looking.

General Tso
06-29-2005, 08:49 PM
all i know is that black type R in evega's sig is fucking hot

General Tso
06-29-2005, 08:50 PM
I miss clean looking cars that are well done and just baddass looking.

like mine :D

fbpDC5-R
06-29-2005, 08:54 PM
all i know is that black type R in evega's sig is fucking hot

Agreed...

I Hate That Bob Barker
06-29-2005, 09:51 PM
Its all about being unique to, some ppl are just willing to pay the price to have something of a higher quality and something different than what everyone else can and probably will go and get.


but most dont spend the money and buy knockoff which is a no no

03 RSX-S
06-29-2005, 10:21 PM
you also have to remeber some cars cant be shipped here because of their gas... well unless you wanna swap out the fuel system because japans premium gas is 100 to our 93-94 well atleast for me because i know cali uses 91

FrIsCo RsX
06-29-2005, 10:33 PM
but most dont spend the money and buy knockoff which is a no no
i don't see a problem with replicas unless you show your car in shows or try to play it off like you have the real thing when you really don't. i mean speaking for myself, as a college student, $400 for a front mugen strut bar isn't a top priority in my life, and with my car being just a daily driver and not a show car, getting a replica is the next best thing. i mean who's going to look under my engine anyways if i'm not showing it? it feels and performs like the real thing. as long as you don't tell people you have an authentic mugen kit or something when you really don't, i don't see the problem with it. i mean if everything on the car is a replica that's one thing, but a few items here and there i don't see a problem with it

shitagi
06-29-2005, 10:36 PM
well either way im with 03 on this one, JDM is over priced. Yea i have JDM parts liek JDM HID headlights and a wing... well i got the wing to get rid of the acura spolier but anyways both of those parts cost me nearly 2 grand just because they were JDM. why pay triple the price when you can get USDM parts for so much cheaper. and by the way 240sx's arent rice... I had a 240SX (Kouki to be exact) with a sr20det in it and it hauled ass but, it dident last long with me because of our winters.

who the hell said 240sx are rice?

MueveloNYC
06-29-2005, 11:15 PM
I think frisco did. but it was more of a personal attack on someone rather than a dis on the car itself.

I Hate That Bob Barker
06-29-2005, 11:17 PM
i don't see a problem with replicas unless you show your car in shows or try to play it off like you have the real thing when you really don't. i mean speaking for myself, as a college student, $400 for a front mugen strut bar isn't a top priority in my life, and with my car being just a daily driver and not a show car, getting a replica is the next best thing. i mean who's going to look under my engine anyways if i'm not showing it? it feels and performs like the real thing. as long as you don't tell people you have an authentic mugen kit or something when you really don't, i don't see the problem with it. i mean if everything on the car is a replica that's one thing, but a few items here and there i don't see a problem with it

i find it morally wrong first of all. and its just shitty. i find it deceitful and ive never had a problem telling someone i have no respect for them to their face because their bodykit. i think you owe it to your car to not half ass it.

FrIsCo RsX
06-29-2005, 11:17 PM
I think frisco did. but it was more of a personal attack on someone rather than a dis on the car itself.
?!?!?! i never said that check all my posts

I Hate That Bob Barker
06-29-2005, 11:18 PM
who the hell said 240sx are rice?


anyone that saw the pimp my ride 240 would have said it :P
that car was hideous.

FrIsCo RsX
06-29-2005, 11:22 PM
i find it morally wrong first of all. and its just shitty. i find it deceitful and ive never had a problem telling someone i have no respect for them to their face because their bodykit. i think you owe it to your car to not half ass it.
true, but for people who just use their rsx as a commuter car and just to get around, but want it to look different than all the stock rides out there, there's no point to get a real mugen kit if you're just going to beat on the car anyways. iono imo 400 for a strut bar isn't tops on my list as a college student. no one will ever check my hood anyways its not a show car, just a daily driver with an identity. but i get what you mean though.

FrIsCo RsX
06-29-2005, 11:25 PM
anyone that saw the pimp my ride 240 would have said it :P
that car was hideous.

haha did you see the new one last night with the big bird interior?

03RSX-S
06-29-2005, 11:31 PM
if you think a knock off will function as well as original you are mistaken:

rims : knocks offs are usually heavier, and don't have as much rigidity
strut bars: knock offs are just crap(I'd know I had a few of "mugen" strut bars on my integra :P)
bodykits: knock off quality sucks ass, real stuff is usually ABS plastic like OEM, knock offs are fiberglass which crack at 5 mph collisions.

I Hate That Bob Barker
06-29-2005, 11:35 PM
true, but for people who just use their rsx as a commuter car and just to get around, but want it to look different than all the stock rides out there, there's no point to get a real mugen kit if you're just going to beat on the car anyways. iono imo 400 for a strut bar isn't tops on my list as a college student. no one will ever check my hood anyways its not a show car, just a daily driver with an identity. but i get what you mean though.


its the price you pay to play the game, if you dont want to buy the real thing dont buy it at all. i could rock a knock off body kit SSRs and be turbo by now, but then i wouldnt be able to respect myself

I Hate That Bob Barker
06-29-2005, 11:39 PM
if you think a knock off will function as well as original you are mistaken:

rims : knocks offs are usually heavier, and don't have as much rigidity
strut bars: knock offs are just crap(I'd know I had a few of "mugen" strut bars on my integra :P)
bodykits: knock off quality sucks ass, real stuff is usually ABS plastic like OEM, knock offs are fiberglass which crack at 5 mph collisions.

authentic body kits are usually fiberglass, they are just nicer quality so they dont brake so easily and fit properly without modification. but more and more companies are switching to pfrp in japan. its essentually urethane strength but still fiberglass.

MueveloNYC
06-29-2005, 11:40 PM
i find it morally wrong first of all. and its just shitty. i find it deceitful and ive never had a problem telling someone i have no respect for them to their face because their bodykit. i think you owe it to your car to not half ass it.

I can concur. It's like if I went to chinatown, bought a fake rolex and started sporting it like I'm hot shit. :p If you're going to advertise the JDM product just for name sake, it better be the real macoy!

Speaking of fakes... Just remembered these guys...
http://www.stuntaz.com/photos/images/Whips01.jpg

MueveloNYC
06-29-2005, 11:42 PM
its the price you pay to play the game, if you dont want to buy the real thing dont buy it at all. i could rock a knock off body kit SSRs and be turbo by now, but then i wouldnt be able to respect myself

It's almost like going 1/2 rice. A ricer will put the sticker but won't have the goods. This has something that resembles the goods and has the sticker/emblem.

FrIsCo RsX
06-29-2005, 11:44 PM
if you think a knock off will function as well as original you are mistaken:

rims : knocks offs are usually heavier, and don't have as much rigidity
strut bars: knock offs are just crap(I'd know I had a few of "mugen" strut bars on my integra :P)
bodykits: knock off quality sucks ass, real stuff is usually ABS plastic like OEM, knock offs are fiberglass which crack at 5 mph collisions.
lol i never said that trust me i of all people know it will not be anywhere close to the real thing. i know my shit is garbage and i'll be the first to admit that my replicas make my car suck more than it already does, but for my daily driver and just a car to get around in it does the job. as soon as i finish college it'll be gone anyways, so no point to go all out on it

MueveloNYC
06-29-2005, 11:50 PM
I guess he has an "essence" of JDM (for looks of course), even though it's just replica. :p

Don't worry. Just stop wasting your money. When you get outta college and get a good job, do it right. :thumbsup:

LOL I've made some bad decisions too... *cough* neons *cough*

I Hate That Bob Barker
06-29-2005, 11:53 PM
I guess he has an "essence" of JDM (for looks of course), even though it's just replica. :p

Don't worry. Just stop wasting your money. When you get outta college and get a good job, do it right. :thumbsup:

LOL I've made some bad decisions too... *cough* neons *cough*

does this essence smell good or bad?

03RSX-S
06-29-2005, 11:53 PM
this is why a shitty car is a good thing, parts are cheaper :P With my RSX I had like 3K "invested' and that didnt' get me much since my parts were new. With the 240 for 3K can have something decent, I want to pace myself though, since I tend to get bored quickly if the car remains at the same feel/look for a while

FrIsCo RsX
06-30-2005, 12:01 AM
I guess he has an "essence" of JDM (for looks of course), even though it's just replica. :p

Don't worry. Just stop wasting your money. When you get outta college and get a good job, do it right. :thumbsup:

LOL I've made some bad decisions too... *cough* neons *cough*
haha trust me, everyone in here's too scared to admit their shit and they're worried about all you guys ganging up on them so i'll speak up. no shame with my replicas for me. i work full time and go to school full time, and my priorities are with my future and not my car. the rsx is just a hobby and something that gets me away from school/work

I Hate That Bob Barker
06-30-2005, 12:06 AM
this is why a shitty car is a good thing, parts are cheaper :P With my RSX I had like 3K "invested' and that didnt' get me much since my parts were new. With the 240 for 3K can have something decent, I want to pace myself though, since I tend to get bored quickly if the car remains at the same feel/look for a while


240s can add up real quick if your building anything track wworthy, sr itself is a rip off now, we useto pay half what they go for now

03RSX-S
06-30-2005, 12:06 AM
i used to work full time and have an RSX, go to school. It takes out of you, I'd rather have a beater and not have to work thru school and have my fun, than work for minimum wage and be the office bitch. The way I see it, I'll have 40 years to work after I graduate, why waste my time now just to afford a better car. Having fun and enjoying your college experience > material possessions.

03RSX-S
06-30-2005, 12:08 AM
240s can add up real quick if your building anything track wworthy, sr itself is a rip off now, we useto pay half what they go for now
I might go for a CA, I'm not really looking to build something track worthy. Just something decently fast mid 13s-low 14s, that can handle a lot better than stock. Suspension I'm almost done sourcing the different parts. Do the engine swap /performance parts in a year, and it'll be a fun little car for 4K out of my pocket, which includes the cost of the car

I Hate That Bob Barker
06-30-2005, 12:12 AM
i think rb20 is the cheapest way to go

03RSX-S
06-30-2005, 12:15 AM
yeah but from what I hear its a pain in the ass, and the engine sits higher than stock, so you can't even close it. + Its heavy and I'm looking for a 50/50 weight distribution which the CA18DET delivers :)

I Hate That Bob Barker
06-30-2005, 12:21 AM
mckinney mounts lower and push back all RBs

03RSX-S
06-30-2005, 12:25 AM
mckinney mounts lower and push back all RBs
interesting :P I'll research that more in a year when I'm ready to swap :)

FrIsCo RsX
06-30-2005, 12:26 AM
i used to work full time and have an RSX, go to school. It takes out of you, I'd rather have a beater and not have to work thru school and have my fun, than work for minimum wage and be the office bitch. The way I see it, I'll have 40 years to work after I graduate, why waste my time now just to afford a better car. Having fun and enjoying your college experience > material possessions.
my car's paid off. i just work full time because i try to pay for things such as school, food, gas, going out with the gf, stuff like that on my own without having to leech off my parents, they work hard enough as it is. modding the car is just something to take my brain off school and work and keeps me sane. if anyone here is a medical student like i am you'll know what i'm talking about when i say school can drive you insane.

03 RSX-S
06-30-2005, 01:08 AM
RB's are a waste of money... Most people that have installed RB26DETT's in their 240's say that the SR20DET feels more powerful.

03 RSX-S
06-30-2005, 01:11 AM
Hey i got knock off JDM parts I guess you could say... I have a replica Mugen bodykit and a Replica CF mugen hood... half the price and it still serves the same function

I Hate That Bob Barker
06-30-2005, 01:11 AM
RB's are a waste of money... Most people that have installed RB26DETT's in their 240's say that the SR20DET feels more powerful.

REALLY? how many people do you know with RBs?

03 RSX-S
06-30-2005, 01:12 AM
REALLY? how many people do you know with RBs?

When I used to go on 240SX forums some people that installed rb's in their 240's said that the sr feels more powerful. and someone sold one on ebay with a CF bodykit... I believe the starting bid was 26,000 but either way I would buy it. #1 it would get stolen and #2 since it had a RB26DETT I would want it to be AWD

I Hate That Bob Barker
06-30-2005, 01:14 AM
i know first hand that the sr doesnt feel more powerful

I Hate That Bob Barker
06-30-2005, 01:14 AM
Hey i got knock off JDM parts I guess you could say... I have a replica Mugen bodykit and a Replica CF mugen hood... half the price and it still serves the same function

what function is that, cheapening your car?

03 RSX-S
06-30-2005, 01:16 AM
uhh no 1st of all the CF hood is functional so I could keep my SC cool since im running 11PSI with no aftercooler becasue JR hasent made one yet and why would i pay 1100 for a Mugen front bumper when I could get a full replica mugen bodykit for that much?

03 RSX-S
06-30-2005, 01:17 AM
Im not trying to be JDM honestly JDM to me is Overpriced and of the same quality of most USDM aftermarket parts the only true JDM part i have is a set of JDM HID headlights and those cost me $1,000

03 RSX-S
06-30-2005, 01:19 AM
what function is that, cheapening your car?
and im wondering how does it make my car cheaper?? im not into looks im into power as you can tell by my mod list I think my car itself is unique enough with the performance mods it has because most people dont have them

I Hate That Bob Barker
06-30-2005, 01:23 AM
and im wondering how does it make my car cheaper?? im not into looks im into power as you can tell by my mod list I think my car itself is unique enough with the performance mods it has because most people dont have them

if your not into looks why buy the kit, why not just put more money into power :rolleyes:

03 RSX-S
06-30-2005, 01:25 AM
because other than rebuilding my complete motor I dont know what else to do mod wise. I also dont liek the looks of the RSX stock... I was gonna buy a JDM type r lip kit but it was a bit too much im not paying 1300 for a lip kit

I Hate That Bob Barker
06-30-2005, 01:27 AM
whoah whoah whoah,
whyd you buy a car you dont like the look of?

03 RSX-S
06-30-2005, 01:31 AM
why? because 1st of all i like the interior of the car alot and also I planned on doing a bodykit to it which was the mugen kit but that was after I finished with the motor which i am for now and alos to me the car has alot of potential...

bunimoo
06-30-2005, 01:33 AM
rice is nice but jdm is forever

03 RSX-S
06-30-2005, 01:33 AM
also reliability was a big factor... most hondas are reliable and last for an extremely long time... well other than the rear quarter pannels

03 RSX-S
06-30-2005, 01:34 AM
you can call my car whatever you want... atleast I have the power to back it up

03 RSX-S
06-30-2005, 01:35 AM
rice is nice but jdm is forever
nice car btw

I Hate That Bob Barker
06-30-2005, 01:53 AM
you can call my car whatever you want... atleast I have the power to back it up


too back off your knock off bodykit? thats not really saying much is it?

03 RSX-S
06-30-2005, 01:55 AM
wow you guys take this JDM shit too serious... I will never in my life pay that much for JDM parts just to say I have JDM parts. Ive said it before and ill say it again jdm is overpriced

03 RSX-S
06-30-2005, 02:04 AM
Oh yea I also forgot to add that i have a JDM Type R valve cover.. I have 2 authentic JDM parts...woohoo

EVega
06-30-2005, 02:08 AM
my car's paid off. i just work full time because i try to pay for things such as school, food, gas, going out with the gf, stuff like that on my own without having to leech off my parents, they work hard enough as it is. modding the car is just something to take my brain off school and work and keeps me sane. if anyone here is a medical student like i am you'll know what i'm talking about when i say school can drive you insane.

Im gonna have to go with you on that one, I have a ITR rep lip coming that in my eyes is the wrong way to go but for the price for a ABS rep kit was right and the main reason I bought it. For having a base looks is the last thing I have to worry about, spending 2k on a lip and wing, when I could put that into actually helping the car perform better. As the parts fail over time and im out of school eventually I would like to get the real deal but for now its gonna have to do.

rsx_pimpin
06-30-2005, 02:42 AM
if all the hondas from japan were sold here in the us the same, all the jdm hype would go away....i like a lot of jdm stuff because the car looks clean and simple....i love the way the itr dc5 looks except the wing...also a question for you guys....wouldnt it be cheaper to import a dc5 r rather than converting a type-s into one???

MueveloNYC
06-30-2005, 08:58 AM
if the replicas aren't made in japan, technically they're no longer JDM. :p They're just JDM inspired. :laughing:

MueveloNYC
06-30-2005, 09:02 AM
speaking of inspired, on my commute to work today I saw something 6 cars ahead of me that looked like a skyline. Complete with wide bumper, wing and all. So I went up to catch up to it, and was all pissed off to find out it was a debadged chevy cobalt coupe, with a custom body kit and wing. LOL

Budweiser03
06-30-2005, 09:19 AM
:laughing: , that's my morning laugh now. I see how someone could do that thouhg, I almost thought I saw a skyline the one morning and it turned out to be a blue Cobalt.

FrIsCo RsX
06-30-2005, 10:29 AM
uhh no 1st of all the CF hood is functional so I could keep my SC cool since im running 11PSI with no aftercooler becasue JR hasent made one yet and why would i pay 1100 for a Mugen front bumper when I could get a full replica mugen bodykit for that much?
finally someone to take the heat with me from them. like i said before, if we're not showing our cars at shows, telling people we have authentic products, and its just a daily beater/commuter, i see no reason why having a few replica items is bad. it makes the car cheap... who cares its the daily beater! if replicas really did suck, the market for them wouldn't be as big as it is today. of all the mugen kits i've seen on clubrsx, i bet maybe 2 are real, and one is from the hks sponsored rsx, so i'll just give benefit of a doubt there's another real one somewhere.

I Hate That Bob Barker
06-30-2005, 12:55 PM
i have never shown a car anywhere, and i have never bought a knock off part, thats not an excuse, what about honesty and respect arent those important?

muev, theres a prelude out here with a lights conversion and his plate says skylude, its so disgusting, i almost pushd him off a bridge once but i had just bought my car, oh well soooo tacky.

FrIsCo RsX
06-30-2005, 01:26 PM
what's the problem about honesty if you're not telling everyone you have the authentic item when you really don't? most of us just aren't ballers and replicas fill our needs. just to play the opposing role, if i had all authentic items on my car, i'd be saying the same things that you're saying don't get me wrong

I Hate That Bob Barker
06-30-2005, 03:08 PM
what's the problem about honesty if you're not telling everyone you have the authentic item when you really don't? most of us just aren't ballers and replicas fill our needs. just to play the opposing role, if i had all authentic items on my car, i'd be saying the same things that you're saying don't get me wrong


having authentic isnt baller, its normal. i dont see it as im telling you to go out on a limb, just take your time and do things right, you dont NEED the body kit, you dont NEED the wheels, you could have waited longer and saved more money, then youd have the real thing, and satisfaction.

btw im staying civil with you precisely because your up front about it, but the vast majority of people arent up front, ive seen alot of shitty fitting ings kits that people said were "original."



btw i have a friend that gave the top secret 350z kit to fiber images for copying, i give him even more shit so please dont take it personal.

FrIsCo RsX
06-30-2005, 05:20 PM
having authentic isnt baller, its normal. i dont see it as im telling you to go out on a limb, just take your time and do things right, you dont NEED the body kit, you dont NEED the wheels, you could have waited longer and saved more money, then youd have the real thing, and satisfaction.

btw im staying civil with you precisely because your up front about it, but the vast majority of people arent up front, ive seen alot of shitty fitting ings kits that people said were "original."



btw i have a friend that gave the top secret 350z kit to fiber images for copying, i give him even more shit so please dont take it personal.
none taken, just trying to defend my reasons for buying replicas even though like 3/4 people on the forums own replicas but none are willing to take the heat for it. as for my rims, i had no choice but to get replicas, they just can't be found.

I Hate That Bob Barker
06-30-2005, 05:53 PM
are they still making the wheels
im sure i can find them if they do

03 RSX-S
06-30-2005, 07:03 PM
i have never shown a car anywhere, and i have never bought a knock off part, thats not an excuse, what about honesty and respect arent those important?

muev, theres a prelude out here with a lights conversion and his plate says skylude, its so disgusting, i almost pushd him off a bridge once but i had just bought my car, oh well soooo tacky.

Atleast m being honest and telling you guys that i have a replica bodykit and hood... and about respect? who cares whether it JDM or not aslong as it performs and has the same function as the other JDM parts just cheaper in price and maybe not as good in quality? to me respect is not important to me because half of the people who will see my car or talk to me I will never see again and also my friends dont give a shit either whether its jdm or not mainly because to them to JDM is overpirced and then the other half of my friends own Euro's

03 RSX-S
06-30-2005, 07:05 PM
And also you guys are into replicating JDM cars and im not thats why i wont pay top dollar for actual JDM parts

FrIsCo RsX
06-30-2005, 07:11 PM
are they still making the wheels
im sure i can find them if they do
i think they do. they're authentic gabsports 17" red rims brand new. I'll give you a week to find them for sale, when you do let me know.

Big Cam
06-30-2005, 07:24 PM
speaking of inspired, on my commute to work today I saw something 6 cars ahead of me that looked like a skyline. Complete with wide bumper, wing and all. So I went up to catch up to it, and was all pissed off to find out it was a debadged chevy cobalt coupe, with a custom body kit and wing. LOL
you got served by GM.

I'm sorry

I Hate That Bob Barker
06-30-2005, 09:32 PM
i meant respect for the company that engineered, youd think if you liked their products so much you wouldnt want to screw them.

I Hate That Bob Barker
06-30-2005, 09:33 PM
i think they do. they're authentic gabsports 17" red rims brand new. I'll give you a week to find them for sale, when you do let me know.


are we setting stakes?

03RSX-S
06-30-2005, 09:58 PM
http://www.jdmuniverse.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30745
Red GAB Sports rims 16in. 32mm offset 5-lug $1300 STILL UP FOR SALE!!!

what do I win?

03RSX-S
06-30-2005, 09:59 PM
photo
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNjI1NjUxNnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg

03 RSX-S
06-30-2005, 10:11 PM
i meant respect for the company that engineered, youd think if you liked their products so much you wouldnt want to screw them.

I dont care.... its not my company so why would I care? why pay next to 3 grand for a bodykit when i can get it for 1500 or even 1100

FrIsCo RsX
06-30-2005, 10:13 PM
lol nice find ive seen that set before fs. it has to be a brand new set and in 17's that's what i'm having an impossible time finding. the 16's i've seen a few people on honda-tech with them. good find though, makes me wanna drool

03 RSX-S
06-30-2005, 10:14 PM
those rims are gross

FrIsCo RsX
06-30-2005, 10:16 PM
those rims are gross
lol you're crazy. but its one of those things where you really lovem or you really hate them

03 RSX-S
06-30-2005, 10:17 PM
every one has their own styles... like you with your jdm rims and me with my mugen replica body and volk rims

I Hate That Bob Barker
06-30-2005, 10:19 PM
I dont care.... its not my company so why would I care? why pay next to 3 grand for a bodykit when i can get it for 1500 or even 1100

wow my respect for you just keeps dropping, out yourself in their position, if you created something for a living and someone else copied it and outsold you by using cheaper materials and quality how would you feel about it?

sounds like all you care about is yourself...

03 RSX-S
06-30-2005, 10:22 PM
do you really think i care if you respect me or not? as long as nothing happens to me my car or anyone i know i could care less

OH FO SHO
06-30-2005, 10:25 PM
its a jap. car., made in jap. use jap parts right?

FrIsCo RsX
06-30-2005, 10:28 PM
every one has their own styles... like you with your jdm rims and me with my mugen replica body and volk rims
its one of those jdm things where it's ugly to the untrained eye, but beautiful to jdm enthusiasts

03 RSX-S
06-30-2005, 10:29 PM
its a jap. car., made in jap. use jap parts right?
actually no its made in the us same as most car companies except subaru because the WRX STi wrx and forester is made in Japan and then shipped here. all japanese cars that are sent here are sent under USDM specs so techincally their not japanese

I Hate That Bob Barker
06-30-2005, 10:30 PM
did they stop making the rsx in japan? it was made there back when i had one, check the door stamp itll tell you.

I Hate That Bob Barker
06-30-2005, 10:32 PM
do you really think i care if you respect me or not? as long as nothing happens to me my car or anyone i know i could care less

can I intepret that as "all I care about is myself"?

03 RSX-S
06-30-2005, 10:32 PM
yes they make it under a diffrent name with diffrent specs

03 RSX-S
06-30-2005, 10:33 PM
can I intepret that as "all I care about is myself"?
you can intepret that as all i care about is my family my friends and things i own and fuck everyone else. why should they be my problems

MueveloNYC
06-30-2005, 10:36 PM
its a jap. car., made in jap. use jap parts right?

a lot of the hondas ie: civics, accords, TL, CL, etc. are made in the USA in plants in Ohio and Atlanta.

03 RSX-S
06-30-2005, 10:36 PM
^thank you

MueveloNYC
06-30-2005, 10:38 PM
lol this is hilarious... Lemme go get some popcorn again. Bob you gonna join me? what aobut na rsx?

OH FO SHO
06-30-2005, 10:38 PM
a lot of the hondas ie: civics, accords, TL, CL, etc. are made in the USA in plants in Ohio and Atlanta.

yeah i know those are, but not the rsx... if i had a civic i would rock a APC wing or something...

03 RSX-S
06-30-2005, 10:39 PM
Hahahahaahah

OH FO SHO
06-30-2005, 10:39 PM
but im not gonna lie its always function over fashion...if a domestic part is superior than a jap part i would go with the domestic...

OH FO SHO
06-30-2005, 10:41 PM
Hahahahaahah

hey i gave you a green bar :thumbsup:

03 RSX-S
06-30-2005, 10:41 PM
lol thanks

FrIsCo RsX
06-30-2005, 10:44 PM
lol this is hilarious... Lemme go get some popcorn again. Bob you gonna join me? what aobut na rsx?
i for one will stay out of this one since 03 rsx-s (the other one) isn't in it. its just not the same arguing without him :(

03 RSX-S
06-30-2005, 10:48 PM
lol youre car would look like this http://forums.clubrsx.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=173142

03 RSX-S
06-30-2005, 10:50 PM
Im not looking to argue but someone is having a hard time getting over the fact that im not willing to pay the same amount of money as my SC cost for a bodykit so i bought a replica... I have acouple jdm parts but they also dient cost too much but no way would i pay the full price for a full mugen bodykit

OH FO SHO
06-30-2005, 10:52 PM
Im not looking to argue but someone is having a hard time getting over the fact that im not willing to pay the same amount of money as my SC cost for a bodykit so i bought a replica... I have acouple jdm parts but they also dient cost too much but no way would i pay the full price for a full mugen bodykit

true dat dat true...and if i was doing JDM for balla status, i wouldnt do it with an rsx

808k20a2
06-30-2005, 11:03 PM
all i can say is that jdm rims/tires own usdm rims/tires any day. everytime i look a pics of tokyo autosalon im like :whoa: :wtf: :drool:

03 RSX-S
06-30-2005, 11:11 PM
id say so too but some JDM rim designs are gross and the colors the come in like those red rims....

808k20a2
06-30-2005, 11:15 PM
red is HOT! it also depends on what color car you put it on. red on yellow, hell no. but red on black fuck yeah.

munlit
06-30-2005, 11:16 PM
subscribed...... inputs later.

03RSX-S
06-30-2005, 11:19 PM
just cuz rims are "JDM" doesn't mean they are hot for example

Work Equip02, look like steelies :P
http://www.wheelspecs.com/specs/images/WheelModels/work_equip02.png

03RSX-S
06-30-2005, 11:26 PM
some more ugly rims

Volks:
http://www.wheelspecs.com/specs/images/WheelModels/volcultr.png
http://www.wheelspecs.com/specs/images/WheelModels/volk_le37w.png
http://www.wheelspecs.com/specs/images/WheelModels/volk_se37w.png

Work:
http://www.wheelspecs.com/specs/images/WheelModels/equip_01.png

Advan:
http://www.wheelspecs.com/specs/images/WheelModels/advan_a3a.png
http://www.wheelspecs.com/specs/images/WheelModels/advan_dish.png

Mugen:
http://www.wheelspecs.com/specs/images/WheelModels/mugen_cf48greatpic.png
http://www.wheelspecs.com/specs/images/WheelModels/mugen_mdf.png

Racing Hart:
http://www.wheelspecs.com/specs/images/WheelModels/Racinghart_S-line.png

03 RSX-S
06-30-2005, 11:28 PM
I couldent agree with you more on that one lol

03 RSX-S
06-30-2005, 11:40 PM
and now that i think of it JDM tires really dont own USDM tires because look at race cars today they usually run goodyear tires and things like that

FrIsCo RsX
06-30-2005, 11:42 PM
id say so too but some JDM rim designs are gross and the colors the come in like those red rims....
leave my rims alone! :laughing:

FrIsCo RsX
06-30-2005, 11:45 PM
some more ugly rims

Volks:
http://www.wheelspecs.com/specs/images/WheelModels/volcultr.png
http://www.wheelspecs.com/specs/images/WheelModels/volk_le37w.png
http://www.wheelspecs.com/specs/images/WheelModels/volk_se37w.png

Work:
http://www.wheelspecs.com/specs/images/WheelModels/equip_01.png

Advan:
http://www.wheelspecs.com/specs/images/WheelModels/advan_a3a.png
http://www.wheelspecs.com/specs/images/WheelModels/advan_dish.png

Mugen:
http://www.wheelspecs.com/specs/images/WheelModels/mugen_cf48greatpic.png
http://www.wheelspecs.com/specs/images/WheelModels/mugen_mdf.png

Racing Hart:
http://www.wheelspecs.com/specs/images/WheelModels/Racinghart_S-line.png
those are definately butt ugly, but to the jdm enthusiasts, owning a set of those would bring them a lot of respect in the jdm community. but yes, they are butt ugly

03RSX-S
06-30-2005, 11:48 PM
those are definately butt ugly, but to the jdm enthusiasts, owning a set of those would bring them a lot of respect in the jdm community. but yes, they are butt ugly
http://www.wheelspecs.com/specs/images/WheelModels/mugen_mdf.png

these look like regular steelies, only a moron would respect these just because they are made by mugen. Who cares about respect make your car look like it does for yourself, not some losers at a carshow/meets. Only an idiot would use those ugly ass rims on his car just for respect from other JDM sackriders

03 RSX-S
06-30-2005, 11:49 PM
they would buy those just to say their JDM

shitagi
06-30-2005, 11:51 PM
fuck that i like the advans volks and works . You just cant appreciate them . Those are what rims in da 80s look like .

03 RSX-S
06-30-2005, 11:52 PM
Are you kidding me? you like those?

03RSX-S
06-30-2005, 11:53 PM
why would you want rims that look like hubcaps?

shitagi
07-01-2005, 12:05 AM
oh hell no the ones that look like pizza pans have got to go . I still have some taste yuck.

03 RSX-S
07-01-2005, 12:11 AM
lol pizza pan rims

FrIsCo RsX
07-01-2005, 12:13 AM
http://www.wheelspecs.com/specs/images/WheelModels/mugen_mdf.png

these look like regular steelies, only a moron would respect these just because they are made by mugen. Who cares about respect make your car look like it does for yourself, not some losers at a carshow/meets. Only an idiot would use those ugly ass rims on his car just for respect from other JDM sackriders
i agree with you guys don't get me wrong, i'm just trying to play the other side to keep things interesting. if we all agreed on everything, this forum would be boring as fuck and i wouldn't be able to kill time at work like i've been doing lately :thumbsup:

FrIsCo RsX
07-01-2005, 12:15 AM
i've actually seen those red advans on a jdm'd out 240 at school and it doesn't look that horrible if you do it right. still ugly, but a more respectable shade of ugly

aznbeayst
07-01-2005, 12:32 AM
if it aint authentic, go home.. theres a difference betweeen jdm "STYLE" and then theres the true authentic jdm stuff... u can be LIKE jdm or you can BE jdm.. im not hating, i just get tired of seeing the same old shit at the shows, people claiming there shit to be REAL JDM, like headlights or DIY doorpanels... if you donts gots it, dont claim it :)

shitagi
07-01-2005, 12:34 AM
Im just wondering , You are aware how ugly american rims are right ? Look at american racing , crager , and some weld rims yuck .

Mo
07-01-2005, 12:34 AM
if it aint authentic, go home.. theres a difference betweeen jdm "STYLE" and then theres the true authentic jdm stuff... u can be LIKE jdm or you can BE jdm.. im not hating, i just get tired of seeing the same old shit at the shows, people claiming there shit to be REAL JDM, like headlights or DIY doorpanels... if you donts gots it, dont claim it :)


picked up your cover shot of honda tuning, car looks fucking sweet man. i only bought it b/c of your car. :D

aznbeayst
07-01-2005, 12:36 AM
picked up your cover shot of honda tuning, car looks fucking sweet man. i only bought it b/c of your car. :D

thanks mo! i have like 5 copies and a plaque lol.. :D

ohh yeh and one more thing.. yes, there are some jdm things that are nice and there are other jdm things that are fugly... its called 'taste'

Mo
07-01-2005, 12:37 AM
thanks mo! i have like 5 copies and a plaque lol.. :D

ohh yeh and one more thing.. yes, there are some jdm things that are nice and there are other jdm things that are fugly... its called 'taste'


i took my lil sis to boarders today and i was walking by the car mag sec and i was like yo thats my homie lol, so i picked one up.

FrIsCo RsX
07-01-2005, 12:53 AM
if it aint authentic, go home.. theres a difference betweeen jdm "STYLE" and then theres the true authentic jdm stuff... u can be LIKE jdm or you can BE jdm.. im not hating, i just get tired of seeing the same old shit at the shows, people claiming there shit to be REAL JDM, like headlights or DIY doorpanels... if you donts gots it, dont claim it :)
well said. i think that's the biggest problem with replicas. the worst thing you could do is try to play them off and tell everyone it's real when it isn't.

03 RSX-S
07-01-2005, 01:05 AM
atleast i told you guys my body kit and hood is a mugen replica.... the only REAL JDM parts I have are a Spoon throttle body, Type R wing Type R valve cover and a pair of Type R HID headlights and thats about it other than that my Mugen bodykit is a replica and so is my hood.

FrIsCo RsX
07-01-2005, 01:14 AM
atleast i told you guys my body kit and hood is a mugen replica.... the only REAL JDM parts I have are a Spoon throttle body, Type R wing Type R valve cover and a pair of Type R HID headlights and thats about it other than that my Mugen bodykit is a replica and so is my hood.
lol you don't need to explain yourself to no one, who cares what other people think. at the end of the day, the money is coming out of your pockets and you're the one driving it, so as long as you're happy, that's really all that matters.

03 RSX-S
07-01-2005, 01:17 AM
yea i know but its just people are like "if it aint authentic go home" well obviously it isent authentic JDM parts but im not willing to sacrefice looks over power because of the JDM price.

OH FO SHO
07-01-2005, 01:58 AM
http://www.wheelspecs.com/specs/images/WheelModels/mugen_mdf.png

these look like regular steelies, only a moron would respect these just because they are made by mugen. Who cares about respect make your car look like it does for yourself, not some losers at a carshow/meets. Only an idiot would use those ugly ass rims on his car just for respect from other JDM sackriders

50 cent has these on his bulletproof 88 accord hatchback...ggg ggg g-unit

03 RSX-S
07-01-2005, 02:55 AM
LOL ok...

I Hate That Bob Barker
07-01-2005, 03:00 AM
you can intepret that as all i care about is my family my friends and things i own and fuck everyone else. why should they be my problems


its the vast amount of people with that attitude that causes so many problems in this world, do you accelerate when people turn on their blinkers so they cant get in as well?

03 RSX-S
07-01-2005, 03:02 AM
its the vast amount of people with that attitude that causes so many problems in this world, do you accelerate when people turn on their blinkers so they cant get in as well?

I cant say that I do... I wouldent wanna risk getting into a car accident or taking anyones life for doing such a stupid thing

03 RSX-S
07-01-2005, 03:10 AM
Im not a wreckless driver Ive never been in a car accident with my own car the only car accident ive been in was with my brother when i was about 2-3 years younger... he thought it was a 4 way stop and it wasent so we got hit on the passanger side... and ive never gotten a ticket yet. I dont do stupid things while im driving.

General Tso
07-01-2005, 03:11 AM
dont drink and drive...you might spill your beer

I Hate That Bob Barker
07-01-2005, 03:15 AM
03, you said you dont care about other, thats why i asked

dont drink and drive...you might spill your beer

thats why you get the beer you can put the cap back on

03 RSX-S
07-01-2005, 03:15 AM
LOL I dont drink and drive because #1 im too young im only 17 turning 18 in a couple of months and #2 im all set with dealing with the consequences of getting caught drinking and driving

General Tso
07-01-2005, 03:17 AM
thats why you get the beer you can put the cap back on

those are called 40's

cefiro8701
07-01-2005, 12:36 PM
JDM used to be unique 3 years back, very few people had a JDM looking car, now everyone and his mother has a JDM looking car. For example type R spoilers 3 years ago few people had them, now every other clubrsx member has one or plans to get one.

JDM is a fad because its the "cool" thing to do now, just like altezzas and apc wings were the new hotness once, JDM now is that. And I'm not talking about aftermarket JDM parts, I'm talking about OEM JDM parts, "omg omg omg JDM coin holder", little stuff like that, that costs 100 bucks. Now the new fad is drifting, and every JDM civic owner is getting a JDM AE86 hachiroku.

Aftermarket parts are of course great, but if you have a better USDM product for less, you'd be a fool to buy the JDM product just to say, I'm JDM yo.

yep even my infiniti i30 is gonna be JDM'ed out soon...cefiro front conversion...

I Hate That Bob Barker
07-01-2005, 01:00 PM
those are called 40's


those too






uh isnt the cefiro rwd, and the i30 front wheel drive?

mnksauce
07-06-2005, 05:42 PM
dont drink and drive...you might spill your beer

HAHHAHAHAH. good point.

as for the whole JDM thing, JDM is cool, as long as you like what you're buying. The fad will stay because people either don't know what else to get or they just follow. If there's i like about a product, i'll get it regardless of whether its JDM or USDM or wherever the hell else it was engineered/produced.

808k20a2
07-06-2005, 11:23 PM
i say jdm is here to stay. its a whole lot cleaner than any big mouth bodykit, high aluminum wing combo.:laughing:

hanbot
07-07-2005, 10:45 AM
peace and love

impulsive
07-07-2005, 12:38 PM
JDM IS A FAD AND ALWAYS WAS BACK IN '92 WHEN WE FIRST STARTED BRINGING IN PARTS THERE WAS NO SUCH THING AS "JDM" IT WAS JUST JAPANESE PARTS...RICKY CHU STARTED THE WHOLE JDM TERM THING. THE PPL WHO LIKE JAPANESE PARTS WILL ALWAYS LIKE THEM. BUT THE "JDM" PART OF IT IS A FAD. THE TERM JDM IS WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY OVER USED. PEOPLE POST ROTA WHEELS AND CLAIM TO BE JDM, SO IN SHORT JDM NOW MEANS A "STYLE" NOT NESC. JAPANESE PARTS. I SAY JDM WILL BE A FAD BUT TRUE JAPANESE PARTS WILL ALWAYS BE SOUGHT AFTER

MAN AND OOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS SORRY FOR CAPS! I just noticed I was yelling lol

I Hate That Bob Barker
07-07-2005, 12:42 PM
who is ricky chu, name sounds familiar

impulsive
07-07-2005, 12:43 PM
who is ricky chu, name sounds familiar
Super Street!

shitagi
07-07-2005, 12:46 PM
Dude your an idiot impulsive , Ricky chu didnt start shit . You need to stop reading superstreet , it was created in socal scene in the late 90's . And it wasnt for aftermarket parts thats called jspec , It was for oem parts to make your ride more close to what japan had .

impulsive
07-07-2005, 12:50 PM
Dude your an idiot impulsive , Ricky chu didnt start shit . You need to stop reading superstreet , it was created in socal scene in the late 90's . And it wasnt for aftermarket parts thats called jspec , It was for oem parts to make your ride more close to what japan had .


bro...I have been buying japanese parts since 1988 so Yeh, im an idiot your right. Ricky Chu started the "JDM" term trend. read what I said ASS, I didnt say he FUCKING INVENTED IT. I said he started the whole trend with the term. I dont read stupid street. but yeh whatever, you know me I guess. lmmfao.

shitagi
07-07-2005, 12:53 PM
he didnt even start the term , where are you getting this crap ????

impulsive
07-07-2005, 12:54 PM
further more jdm DOES include japanese Aftermarket parts. why? because they come from Japan. usdm includes comptech, why bc it comes from the US market. Grow up a little, learn something, then come talk to me. have a nice day.

vanbells
07-07-2005, 12:59 PM
i say jdm is here to stay. its a whole lot cleaner than any big mouth bodykit, high aluminum wing combo.:laughing:

But even Japanese companies make big mouth bodykits and the aluminum wings. I mean they did create Altezzas didn't they?

shitagi
07-07-2005, 01:00 PM
that jspec and its for aftermarket cars , jdm was termed for oem parts you learn something and come back and talk to me 5 year old .

SaCH
07-07-2005, 06:05 PM
i say jdm is here to stay. its a whole lot cleaner than any big mouth bodykit, high aluminum wing combo.:laughing:

mugen front bumper?



almost every japanese tuner company has a high wing, thats where ricer aluminum wings come from. They were originally copying Jgtc race cars.

SaCH
07-07-2005, 06:06 PM
JDM will always be there, we're just following japanese trends anyways.

I Hate That Bob Barker
07-07-2005, 06:08 PM
actually i have a little bit of old school porsche leanings in my modifications

Soopreme
07-07-2005, 06:16 PM
JDM > all



kthnx. that is all.. :thumbsup:

lil888chink
07-07-2005, 09:45 PM
JDM may be a fad it might not, but what originally got so many ppl to do jdm conversions were simply because the jdm oem lip kits on a lot of cars looked simple and "clean".

It might die out but what I mean by that is that a lot less people will do the same conversions. And when I refer to JDM im not talking about jdm aftermarket.

shitagi
07-07-2005, 10:12 PM
thank you + rep for joo

crazy
07-08-2005, 07:59 AM
I personally think that in about 5 years or so it'll go the way of the Altezza.

Before i'm flamed out because you think i'm a JDM hater, i'm not. I like JDM parts and some of the stuff is really nice, but getting something only becuase its JDM seems a bit weird to me. And to most people who don't know everything about it (and even some of them who do), they mainly see what the average joe who calls himself a JDM addict has on their car - badges and maybe a wing. If you go to some of the threads where people are asking to repaint their car, Champ. white is always mentioned, even if the guy already has white! One guy even said he had PWP and wanted to repaint it CW, and then put a pearl on it. Its being done mainly for its name rather than its actual looks. And I think that last sentence summed up what most people see when the see JDM.

yeahi
07-08-2005, 09:45 AM
ha, the funny part is impulsive is right. JDM is a fad. This started way back in the day, before most of us were even getting car parts.

shitagi
07-08-2005, 12:41 PM
hmm got my first 240 in 96' when did you buy your first car ????

mnksauce
07-08-2005, 03:23 PM
haha, i knew people that were flipping seating cups on integra suspensions to make their cars lower in '96.

I Hate That Bob Barker
07-08-2005, 03:43 PM
i got my license in 2001

DC5 racer
07-08-2005, 04:32 PM
jdm will not die hahah or then there goes the world haha

shitagi
07-08-2005, 04:42 PM
thats what im saying haha I like you already haha

yeahi
07-08-2005, 05:13 PM
hmm got my first 240 in 96' when did you buy your first car ????

got mine in 2001, but the scene was around way before 96.

shitagi
07-08-2005, 05:17 PM
the jdm scene was around way before 96 eh ???? Then tell me how impulse is right if ricky dicky chu came up with the term lol.

I Hate That Bob Barker
07-08-2005, 05:18 PM
got mine in 2001, but the scene was around way before 96.


dont mean this in a rude way, but i thought you were like 19 :cool:

shitagi
07-08-2005, 05:21 PM
last time i checked i didnt see shit for jdm in socal till like 98 ' but maybe there was a secret underground haha.

Arctic04S
07-09-2005, 03:23 AM
this thread is funny and most of you are idiots


that is all

yeahi
07-09-2005, 11:33 AM
last time i checked i didnt see shit for jdm in socal till like 98 ' but maybe there was a secret underground haha.

They were around way before, back in 95 or 96, tjin was brining in the japan parts.

shitagi
07-09-2005, 01:08 PM
well shit then you could say it was back in the early 80's then when they were bringing jdm datsun parts for the z lol . And yes we are all idiots .

shitagi
07-09-2005, 01:32 PM
oh and how do you know the seen was around in 95-96 ? How old are you , you said you got you car in 2001 so I will assume you were 16 -18 so if thats correct you were like 10-12 years old in 95 - 96 haha.

yeahi
07-09-2005, 02:49 PM
oh and how do you know the seen was around in 95-96 ? How old are you , you said you got you car in 2001 so I will assume you were 16 -18 so if thats correct you were like 10-12 years old in 95 - 96 haha.

Just because i wasn't in the scene back then, doesn't mean that i know about the scene now as i got into it and did a little researh and try to meet people. The scene is more than you think it is.

DC5 racer
07-09-2005, 06:56 PM
yea the scene started early 90's late 80's with the drag racing did a speech on the roots of the import scene for my speech class haha

shitagi
07-10-2005, 02:01 PM
what started ... the import scene ? Where talking about the so called jdm fad scene .