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: lug nuts on stock wheels..???


DANNYRSX920
09-02-2005, 06:41 AM
Sup guys, I was just wondering .. I have 05-S wheels on my 02-S and I want to get the after market lugnuts (Rays, Work Emotion, Spoon) on them but for some reason someone told me that they wont fit any stock wheels.. Is that true..? Can someone please help me Im really trying to order them ASAP... Thanks

BarracksSi
09-02-2005, 08:21 AM
Don't bother with aftermarket lug nuts on stock wheels unless you can get them with the domed seat.

All these "tuner" lugs have a conical seat -- that is, the part that contacts the wheel is at an angle without any curve. The OEM Honda/Acura lugs have a curve instead.

I feel that the difference is important because of the very high pressure on such a small area. You really want these things to seat properly and not start causing new stresses to the wheel.

Frankly, I'm starting to wonder about the whole lightweight lug nut thing and whether it's worth it. You can get greater weight reduction with aluminum control arms, lighter brakes, lighter wheels, and stuff like that. You really aren't going to feel a difference from a few little lug nuts.

DANNYRSX920
09-02-2005, 10:59 PM
come on anybody..? HELP...HELP!!!

AznVillage1diot
09-03-2005, 05:09 AM
... didn't he already answer?

crazy
09-03-2005, 10:21 AM
Wrong forum, and he already gave a good, long answer to your question.

BarracksSi
09-05-2005, 05:08 PM
(in the spirit of the PBS show Reading Rainbow :D )

Don't take my word for it -- check this out:

http://mtdealer.com/t_inside.cfm?action=performancehb_det&storyid=1188&pgNum=2

BarracksSi
09-05-2005, 05:13 PM
I mentioned lightening other parts because I finally got to feel how much lighter the front control arms really are in aluminum. The weight difference of one arm is more than a whole bag of 20 lug nuts.

subwrxkid
09-15-2005, 07:49 PM
danny the company is called work...not work emotion...those are the type of rims i have...bump this up for a great kid...very studious...also helps out the family...mows the lawn...great kid...avid reader

BarracksSi
09-16-2005, 06:30 AM
Again...

Don't bother with aftermarket lug nuts on stock wheels unless you can get them with the domed seat.

Axix23
01-25-2007, 05:29 PM
what good websites to order colored lugs? and how do u know they will fit on ur specific wheels?

Game
01-25-2007, 06:20 PM
what good websites to order colored lugs? and how do u know they will fit on ur specific wheels?

Well RSX lug nut size are 12x1.5. It'll work with all aftermarket wheels that fit an RSX.

Oh and I'd order from eBay. I just got my Rays Blue Extended lugs for $130 shipped. :D

BarracksSi
01-28-2007, 03:46 AM
what good websites to order colored lugs? and how do u know they will fit on ur specific wheels?

You'll know they'll fit if they're listed as having a domed or ball seat, and NOT conical or "tuner" style (such as Rays).

If the shop doesn't know what you mean, then don't trust them; order from someplace else.

*edit*

What I meant was, do not try to use conical/tuner lugs on stock wheels.

Nearly all aftermarket wheels, especially for cars like ours, use conical/tuner lug nuts.

ASSALBERT
01-28-2007, 11:17 PM
rays wheel nuts wont fit, i think the work wheel nuts might fit but im not 100% sure on that and if i remember correctly the spoon nuts fit on stock wheels.

BarracksSi
01-28-2007, 11:30 PM
Spoon lug nuts do fit, but there's a specific version, and I've only seen them listed in a gunmetal gray color.

http://www.spoonsports.us/catalog/products/wheelNuts.htm

By contrast, NONE of the lug nuts on this page are designed for stock Honda wheels:
http://www.evasivemotorsports.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=EM&Category_Code=L1

DANNYRSX920
02-01-2007, 06:39 PM
Well just to let you guys no.. Rays and a few other aftermarket lugnuts do fit on stock wheels..I have Rays extended lugs on my S2K rims, my 05-S rims, and my Type-R rims and never had a problem.. so they do work..

Bath Tussue
02-01-2007, 10:23 PM
Well just to let you guys no.. Rays and a few other aftermarket lugnuts do fit on stock wheels..I have Rays extended lugs on my S2K rims, my 05-S rims, and my Type-R rims and never had a problem.. so they do work..

yes, they will fit onto the lug, but it won;t sit correctly.

justforkicks
02-02-2007, 01:34 PM
Don't do it your wheels will fall off at high speeds.

BarracksSi
02-02-2007, 01:56 PM
Well just to let you guys no.. Rays and a few other aftermarket lugnuts do fit on stock wheels..I have Rays extended lugs on my S2K rims, my 05-S rims, and my Type-R rims and never had a problem.. so they do work..

Do a close comparison of the Rays lugs and the stock Honda ones. Look carefully at the seating surfaces of each, where the nuts actually touch the wheels. I'm pretty sure that the rounded OEM lug nuts will have a more even wear pattern across the entire seating surface than the Rays.

You want the lug nuts to hold the wheel against the hub while distributing pressure as evenly as possible. Use nuts with the wrong taper and they concentrate their pressure on a much smaller area.

Blaze6257
02-02-2007, 02:20 PM
Can some one get a picture of the lugs(seated surface)? id like to see the differance between the differant ones.

BarracksSi
02-02-2007, 03:31 PM
Here's a closeup of some Hasegawa conical lug nuts after a quick on-off test fitting on my Rotas:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/BarracksSi/Lug%20Nuts/IMG_0512.jpg

On the right side where I rubbed off the dirt, you can see how the wheel rubbed into the finish of the nut, and mostly all the way from the tip to the "socket end". On the left, you can see that it picked up dirt & paint flakes on the entire surface.

I don't have any closeups of the stock lugs handy, though.

XxTekkenxX
11-15-2007, 08:56 AM
When one of the guys said the wheel will fly out at hugh speeds this is smething realistic? Because the lugs would have to unwind before the wheel falling off and lugs cant strip off since its the same threading as if it would be going on a after market rim. But many aftermarket rims, ppl jus use stock nuts and nobody has a problem as well? I have stocks with rays on and would jus like to know some more info. Dont see it as a huge problem but the seating thing might be crucial.

bibiboo
11-15-2007, 11:40 AM
will they fit? yes they will, but not properly

is it safe? since it's not proper fit, then no

will it fall off for sure? no, theres a small chance that it will fall off. But if u have it on for long time or go at high speed often, for sure there will be more wear then normal or damage at your lug and rim contact surfaces

blujay8
08-17-2008, 01:42 AM
use locktite. llol

tran2000
08-17-2008, 02:23 AM
This Question has been asked many times, when I had 05 wheels I ran buddy club lugs for a long time with no problems. They never got loose on me put them at 80 PSI.

kangzta
02-23-2010, 03:37 AM
I remember seeing somewhere like an adapter to use tuner lugs on stock wheels. Maybe i'm just imagining...has anyone else seen what i'm talking about?

walk
02-23-2010, 07:35 PM
This is what you're looking for http://www.clubrsx.com/cr/SSR-WHEELWASHER.html

Do NOT use aftermarket lug nuts on OEM wheels (or vice-versa)! The taper is different and they won't hold correctly.

Aftermarket lug nuts on left (60 deg angle) - OEM lugs on right (45deg)
http://www.clubrsx.com/graphics/00000001/taper3.jpg

20dc502
03-14-2011, 02:42 PM
This is what you're looking for http://www.clubrsx.com/cr/SSR-WHEELWASHER.html

Do NOT use aftermarket lug nuts on OEM wheels (or vice-versa)! The taper is different and they won't hold correctly.

Aftermarket lug nuts on left (60 deg angle) - OEM lugs on right (45deg)
http://www.clubrsx.com/graphics/00000001/taper3.jpg

Then what should someone us for say, Rota Torques. the 60deg angle im assuming or is there other angles that would work better aswell?

BarracksSi
03-14-2011, 06:44 PM
Then what should someone us for say, Rota Torques. the 60deg angle im assuming or is there other angles that would work better aswell?

Yup, 60 deg. A different angle is, well, a different angle and won't fit right.

60deg is the standard angle for aftermarket lug nuts around here. The "45deg" angle pictured above is, in fact, not a conical angle but a rounded "ball seat".

ahdez
02-12-2013, 03:38 PM
so after looking threw this thread, i can buy aftermarket lugs for my 05 type s rims as long as i have this?? http://www.kseriesparts.com/cr/SSR-WHEELWASHER.html

or these should work
http://www.ebay.com/itm/16-ACURA-BALL-RADIUS-STOCK-OEM-WHEELS-LUG-NUTS-12X1-5-M12-1-5-CLOSED-END-RED-/180737517496?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a14cba7b8&vxp=mtr

joncali-dc5
02-02-2014, 11:43 AM
How do u install the washers tho?