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: JDM 05 DC5 Headlights


nihonrsx
10-08-2005, 09:52 AM
Are these JDM headlights, the same as our US headlights:

http://www.kamispeed.com/images/jitshldc5b.jpg

Krisen Type-S
10-08-2005, 10:27 AM
i'm pretty sure they're the same

i also noticed that that kamispeed listed 05 JDM lights...but i think thats just a gimmick to catch some idiot haha

silentsnake09
10-08-2005, 01:20 PM
i blacked out my 05 headlights looks awesome

crazy
10-08-2005, 01:31 PM
How do you black-out already black headlight housings? I hope you didn't paint where the light shines....

MissiVTEC22
10-08-2005, 01:43 PM
How do you black-out already black headlight housings? I hope you didn't paint where the light shines....
:laughing: :laughing: :drink: ha ha ha

humanshield
10-08-2005, 09:33 PM
or they'd be cool for anyone with a pre 05 that wanted to get these lights and a mugen bumper! hehe...or something of the sort.

mavi DC5
10-09-2005, 11:29 AM
Are these JDM headlights, the same as our US headlights:

http://www.kamispeed.com/images/jitshldc5b.jpg

if you look at the back of the one headlight, there is no HID cover (like the gray one on the 02-04 JDM HID). This looks like a conventional halogen housing to me, however, it may indeed be off a JDM integra (just the halogen model).

DC5ITR329
10-09-2005, 12:47 PM
if you look at the back of the one headlight, there is no HID cover (like the gray one on the 02-04 JDM HID). This looks like a conventional halogen housing to me, however, it may indeed be off a JDM integra (just the halogen model).

well when you buy headlights they don't come with anything when they are brand new. you have to buy all the pieces separately. so you can't really tell what kind they are until you get pics of the back

mavi DC5
10-09-2005, 06:01 PM
well when you buy headlights they don't come with anything when they are brand new.

I dont know what this means, they dont come with anything? OEM HID should come with the ballasts and everything required in the housing already.

you have to buy all the pieces separately. so you can't really tell what kind they are until you get pics of the back

You can look at the back of the one housing where the low beam is, it should have a silver (or other colour) cover on the HID section. So by saying buying peices seperately, you mean adding an HID kit? That defeats the purpose of getting an OEM HID housing in the first place.

Look at the pictures below:

02-04 JDM HID UNIT (note the silver colour cover on the low beam for the HID)

http://forums.clubrsx.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=201959&stc=1

Now here is the back of the said 05+ JDM HID housings, there is no cover on the hid low beam

http://forums.clubrsx.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=201960&stc=1

DC5ITR329
10-09-2005, 06:55 PM
I dont know what this means, they dont come with anything? OEM HID should come with the ballasts and everything required in the housing already.



You can look at the back of the one housing where the low beam is, it should have a silver (or other colour) cover on the HID section. So by saying buying peices seperately, you mean adding an HID kit? That defeats the purpose of getting an OEM HID housing in the first place.

Look at the pictures below:

02-04 JDM HID UNIT (note the silver colour cover on the low beam for the HID)

http://forums.clubrsx.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=201959&stc=1

Now here is the back of the said 05+ JDM HID housings, there is no cover on the hid low beam

http://forums.clubrsx.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=201960&stc=1

when you buy headlights it doesn't come with the neccessary parts to make it complete. which means it doesn't come with that gray piece. you have to order everything separately and put it together. and on the back of the 05 model's headlights, it's because it's only the headlights. they didn't order the rest of the piece to finish off the headlight. so you can't really tell if it's a HID or non HID. I've had OEM HID for almost 3 and a half years. so I think I know what I'm talking about.

mavi DC5
10-09-2005, 07:22 PM
I've had OEM HID for almost 3 and a half years. so I think I know what I'm talking about.

heres your medal :thumbsup: ...
I have the JDM HID housing in my basement right now, that is my pic i posted

Why dont you read the actual website where that pic came from:

http://www.kamispeed.com/product_info.php?cPath=1135_1145_1563_1433&products_id=67&SesId=62552f083f082d0b69525f2eff970db6

Directly from Japan are these original Honda parts for your Acura. Upgrade your USDM parts with these new original JDM parts from Honda Japan. Its time to discover the new JDM side of your import.

•Developed for the JDM 05 Honda Integra Type S/ DC5.
•Black colored background
•Does not require HID
•HONDA markings on outer lens for a true JDM conversion.
•Direct replacement; fits 2005 RSX models only

Note the bold print, a true HID housing will only accept D2R bulbs. You can also use D2S bulbs with little modification. But you cant fit an H1 bulb in there...

The housings in the pic are from a halogen application, and could or could not be a JDM integra.

mavi DC5
10-09-2005, 07:26 PM
so if you have to put it together, why of all of the websites offering brand new JDM HIDs show the gray peice in the back, why does it make a difference if its the 05 or 02-04 housing? It makes no sense for the end user to have to put the HID components into the housing themselves and order such components seperately. There is always a price for the regular housing or the HID housing (which is always priced higher).

http://www.aj-racing.com/catalog/files/products/images/jdmhonda/DC5/hid.jpg

http://www.aj-racing.com/catalog/product.php?productid=336&cat=60&page=2

nihonrsx
10-09-2005, 11:06 PM
Ok, I e-mailed Kami Speed and they explained everything. In Japan there is 2 versions for the new style RSX; they have the Type S and the Type R. The Integra Type S is non HID and the Integra Type R is HID. So these headlights came from an Integra Type S, which use the same bulbs as our RSX-S. Basically, the only difference between the JDM headlights and ours is that the new model JDM Integra Type S headlights have the HONDA mark on the bottom corner of the lens. I guess these headlights are only good for those converting from the 04 headlights to the new style headlights.

mavi DC5
10-10-2005, 10:13 AM
Ok, I e-mailed Kami Speed and they explained everything. In Japan there is 2 versions for the new style RSX; they have the Type S and the Type R. The Integra Type S is non HID and the Integra Type R is HID. So these headlights came from an Integra Type S, which use the same bulbs as our RSX-S. Basically, the only difference between the JDM headlights and ours is that the new model JDM Integra Type S headlights have the HONDA mark on the bottom corner of the lens. I guess these headlights are only good for those converting from the 04 headlights to the new style headlights.

exactly! The HID versions come with everything required..... those would be a decent upgrade IMO.

nihonrsx
10-10-2005, 11:12 AM
Kami Speed's headlights are original HONDA headlights from a '05 Integra Type S; like stated on their website. So this is a good mod for those looking into changing from 04 to 05 front bumper, since its an original JDM product.

Krisen Type-S
10-10-2005, 11:42 AM
Ok, I e-mailed Kami Speed and they explained everything. In Japan there is 2 versions for the new style RSX; they have the Type S and the Type R. The Integra Type S is non HID and the Integra Type R is HID. So these headlights came from an Integra Type S, which use the same bulbs as our RSX-S. Basically, the only difference between the JDM headlights and ours is that the new model JDM Integra Type S headlights have the HONDA mark on the bottom corner of the lens. I guess these headlights are only good for those converting from the 04 headlights to the new style headlights.

i dunno about the 05 lights, but the 02-04 lights have the honda mark in the corner of the headlight lenses (on USDM RSXs)

DC5ITR329
10-10-2005, 11:52 AM
heres your medal :thumbsup: ...
I have the JDM HID housing in my basement right now, that is my pic i posted

Why dont you read the actual website where that pic came from:

http://www.kamispeed.com/product_info.php?cPath=1135_1145_1563_1433&products_id=67&SesId=62552f083f082d0b69525f2eff970db6



Note the bold print, a true HID housing will only accept D2R bulbs. You can also use D2S bulbs with little modification. But you cant fit an H1 bulb in there...

The housings in the pic are from a halogen application, and could or could not be a JDM integra.

OK first of all I didn’t go to the website because all you guys posted pics. That is the only reason why I said you can't tell. as for the dumbass remark about here's your medal crap. grow up kid. I'm just stating that because it shows I have experience with these headlights.

DC5ITR329
10-10-2005, 12:06 PM
so if you have to put it together, why of all of the websites offering brand new JDM HIDs show the gray peice in the back, why does it make a difference if its the 05 or 02-04 housing? It makes no sense for the end user to have to put the HID components into the housing themselves and order such components seperately. There is always a price for the regular housing or the HID housing (which is always priced higher).

http://www.aj-racing.com/catalog/files/products/images/jdmhonda/DC5/hid.jpg

http://www.aj-racing.com/catalog/product.php?productid=336&cat=60&page=2


look at the picture. it's not even the right one. it's the HID unit not the headlamps. meaning that you have to order both separately. just like I said. What AJR does it order them separately from honda themselves and then put them together or ship them to you all separately.

http://www.aj-racing.com/catalog/home.php?cat=60&sort=title&sort_direction=0&page=2

Why would acura or honda sell it all together if the picture and the items are listed like this? does that mean that they can order it all together in one piece? No you have to order them separately to make the headlights complete.
http://www.acuraparts247.com/sunnyside/jsp/catimgs/14s6m01_b0801.gif

RSX-CT
10-10-2005, 12:32 PM
All I know is Integra type S or type R , those headlights they sell are cheaper than a new pair of USDM in the states.

nihonrsx
10-10-2005, 03:31 PM
^ really? How much do the USDM headlights go for? Sorry I'm just curious.

RSX-CT
10-10-2005, 03:43 PM
$599.48 at Delray Acura online parts department, shipped via Ground. That is the best national price unless you know someone that gets a dealership discount.

Now that I go back to that website I forgot thaat price is $595 prior to shipping. So Delray Acura still has the better deal. My bad!

mavi DC5
10-10-2005, 04:52 PM
OK first of all I didn’t go to the website because all you guys posted pics. That is the only reason why I said you can't tell. as for the dumbass remark about here's your medal crap. grow up kid. I'm just stating that because it shows I have experience with these headlights.

The remark was because of your self gloating, because you have the HID units for 3 years youre automatically right? nope

There are 2 different housings, a regular housing and an HID housing. If it came seperately then there would be a risk of mixing HID and non HID housings up. The housing and HID components come as 1 package.

mavi DC5
10-10-2005, 04:55 PM
look at the picture. it's not even the right one. it's the HID unit not the headlamps

That picture is the HEADLAMP!! WTF you talking about HID unit and not the headlamps.. There is a ballast attached to the bottom of the headlamp with wiring that connects to the bulb via a small hole beneath the housing. The silver cover is there at the back as a reminder to people servicing the housing that it is an HID housing.

Keep up the posts, soon you will confuse everyone reading...

mavi DC5
10-10-2005, 04:57 PM
Why would acura or honda sell it all together if the picture and the items are listed like this? does that mean that they can order it all together in one piece? No you have to order them separately to make the headlights complete.
http://www.acuraparts247.com/sunnyside/jsp/catimgs/14s6m01_b0801.gif

PS thats a pic of the halogen housing , its irrelevant in this discussion

DC5ITR329
10-10-2005, 05:59 PM
The remark was because of your self gloating, because you have the HID units for 3 years youre automatically right? nope

There are 2 different housings, a regular housing and an HID housing. If it came seperately then there would be a risk of mixing HID and non HID housings up. The housing and HID components come as 1 package.

My good buddy owns ICBmotorsport.com and I know this for a fact. but I'm tired of posting on a useless thread. you obviously don't understand what I'm saying so I'm done with this crap.

The JSin
10-10-2005, 06:37 PM
haha omg dont waste ur fuckin money on a jdm headlight that looks excatly like the usdm one just cuz the back is different.

mavi DC5
10-10-2005, 09:43 PM
My good buddy owns ICBmotorsport.com and I know this for a fact. but I'm tired of posting on a useless thread. you obviously don't understand what I'm saying so I'm done with this crap.

I was only posting my experience with the JDM headlights. Maybe different importers do things differently.. no need to get your panties twisted

H82LOS3
10-10-2005, 10:00 PM
Yeah i think so

Anointed_DC5
10-11-2005, 02:32 PM
Does anyone know of any websites that sell the 05 JDM HID headlights?

giligoulu
10-14-2005, 11:58 PM
looks the same

rsxer63
10-17-2005, 01:08 AM
when you buy headlights it doesn't come with the neccessary parts to make it complete. which means it doesn't come with that gray piece. you have to order everything separately and put it together. and on the back of the 05 model's headlights, it's because it's only the headlights. they didn't order the rest of the piece to finish off the headlight. so you can't really tell if it's a HID or non HID. I've had OEM HID for almost 3 and a half years. so I think I know what I'm talking about.
So you are saying that if you order the headlights all you have to do is order the grey piece and attach your ballast and HID bulbs and you have the HID version? That there are no other dif between the units..

Anointed_DC5
10-17-2005, 09:58 AM
So you are saying that if you order the headlights all you have to do is order the grey piece and attach your ballast and HID bulbs and you have the HID version? That there are no other dif between the units..

No I do not believe that to be true. There are two types of JDM headlights, there are the halogen version which is the same as our USDM version and then there is a HID version which has the reflector, lens and bowl made specifically for HID. You can probably do what you are saying but the beam pattern will still look as though you just stuck a aftermarket HID kit in a halogen housing which doesn't produce a clean light cutoff. Hope this help clear things up for you. :thumbsup:

rsxer63
10-17-2005, 06:35 PM
No I do not believe that to be true. There are two types of JDM headlights, there are the halogen version which is the same as our USDM version and then there is a HID version which has the reflector, lens and bowl made specifically for HID. You can probably do what you are saying but the beam pattern will still look as though you just stuck a aftermarket HID kit in a halogen housing which doesn't produce a clean light cutoff. Hope this help clear things up for you. :thumbsup:
i agree with you but that is not what I thought DC5ITR329 was saying.

NBP RSX-S
10-17-2005, 07:16 PM
Do they have authentic honda jdm hid housings for 02-04 RSX and if so what is the typical price range for this. Also if it is an hid housing then does that mean it would kinda be like having non-hid retrofitted (sorry if this is stupid question but im not quite understanding the retrofit). Also, would they use the factory HID temp (4300K) like lexuses or audis and would they also have that flicker look when driving.

I currently have halo projecting housings and an H1 8000k kit but i want to take both out and sell and get a perfect clean fit housing (perfectionist) and a factory-like cut off line HID. That is why im asking all this.

Anointed_DC5
10-17-2005, 07:25 PM
Yes I currently have the 02-04 JDM HID headlights off an Integra Type-R. The whole headlamp assembly is made for HID thus the clean light cutoff. The price can range anywhere from 750-1000 I believe its best if you can find them used from someone like I did. It was definately worth it IMO that's why I am looking for the 05 JDM HID housings before I decide to do the conversion.

NBP RSX-S
10-17-2005, 09:44 PM
ok so basically they would most likely have the ballasts bolted to them and they are just ready to plug and play? are they 4300K? and where would you recommend getting them from if i cant find any used. thanks for the replies and sorry about all the questions

rsxer63
10-17-2005, 10:04 PM
ok so basically they would most likely have the ballasts bolted to them and they are just ready to plug and play? are they 4300K? and where would you recommend getting them from if i cant find any used. thanks for the replies and sorry about all the questions
nothing to be sorry about

RSX-CT
10-17-2005, 11:08 PM
No I do not believe that to be true. There are two types of JDM headlights, there are the halogen version which is the same as our USDM version and then there is a HID version which has the reflector, lens and bowl made specifically for HID. You can probably do what you are saying but the beam pattern will still look as though you just stuck a aftermarket HID kit in a halogen housing which doesn't produce a clean light cutoff. Hope this help clear things up for you. :thumbsup:

I just want to add to this, to clarify for everyone:
-There are three versions of the RSX headlights
-All versions have the same lenses that meet SAE/DOT approval for H1/9005 halogen or D2R. Simply, the lenses are the same for all versions and they do not interefere with the output to cause glaring themselves.
-All versions have the same bezels.
-The USDM, and JDM halogen version have the same rear of the housing.
-The JDM xenon version has "grey" piece that accomondates the HID ballasts
-The USDM version had reflector bowls for H1/9005 halogen with a right hand flare (blinds oncoming traffic in Japan) This comes on all US RSXs
-The JDM halogen version has reflector bowls for h1/9005 halogen with a left flare (blinds oncoming traffic in US) Comes on Honda Integra type S
-The JDM xenon version has reflector bowls for D2R (HID)/9005 (halogen) with a left flare (blinds oncoming traffic in US) Comes on Honda Integra type R

So, you still will have a sloppy beam pattern with a HID kit in the JDM halogen versions and it will be purposely reflected directly into oncoming traffic here in North America. With the ITR headlights you'll have a nice sharp cutoff with the OEM HID, but it will still be directed into oncoming traffic over here, so the glare problem is still there.

There is no other difference between the lights, 99.99% of people could not even tell if it was JDM (halogen version) even under close inspection of the headlights themselves, so what is the point?

rsxer63
10-17-2005, 11:11 PM
I just want to add to this, to clarify for everyone:
-There are three versions of the RSX headlights
-All versions have the same lenses that meet SAE/DOT approval for H1/9005 halogen or D2R. Simply, the lenses are the same for all versions and they do not interefere with the output to cause glaring themselves.
-All versions have the same bezels.
-The USDM, and JDM halogen version have the same rear of the housing.
-The JDM xenon version has "grey" piece that accomondates the HID ballasts
-The USDM version had reflector bowls for H1/9005 halogen with a right hand flare (blinds oncoming traffic in Japan) This comes on all US RSXs
-The JDM halogen version has reflector bowls for h1/9005 halogen with a left flare (blinds oncoming traffic in US) Comes on Honda Integra type S
-The JDM xenon version has reflector bowls for D2R (HID)/9005 (halogen) with a left flare (blinds oncoming traffic in US) Comes on Honda Integra type R

So, you still will have a sloppy beam pattern with a HID kit in the JDM halogen versions and it will be purposely reflected directly into oncoming traffic here in North America. With the ITR headlights you'll have a nice sharp cutoff with the OEM HID, but it will still be directed into oncoming traffic over here, so the glare problem is still there.

There is no other difference between the lights, 99.99% of people could not even tell if it was JDM (halogen version) even under close inspection of the headlights themselves, so what is the point?
glad that is clarified now!

NBP RSX-S
10-18-2005, 10:31 AM
well if that is the case is there a way of adjusting the aim, i saw something on here saying you can do it by adjusting some bolt or screw on the back of the housing maybe phillips perhaps

Anointed_DC5
10-18-2005, 10:43 AM
He is right about the JDM headlights pointing to the left but I have had no problems with blinding oncoming traffic because I have adjusted the lights to aim a bit lower which still provides me with plenty of lighting. I know that the best way to achieve a sharp beam pattern that will not potentially blind oncoming traffic is by doing the retrofits that RSX-CT provides but I am not really fond of projectors unless they are made that way from factory.

Anointed_DC5
10-18-2005, 10:45 AM
On a side note RSX-CT, I know you do the projector retrofits for a lot of members here on CRSX but do you know how to do reflector retrofits so I can purchase the USDM headlights and retrofit it with lets say an IS300 reflector? Thanks for any input.

RSX-CT
10-18-2005, 10:56 AM
On a side note RSX-CT, I know you do the projector retrofits for a lot of members here on CRSX but do you know how to do reflector retrofits so I can purchase the USDM headlights and retrofit it with lets say an IS300 reflector? Thanks for any input.

It is basically the same process, but more difficult. The biggest concern would be the size of the reflector you want to use, you want to be as close to stock as possible but not larger.

My only thing with aiming the lights down to compensate for the wrong direction flare is you lose a lot of visibility. Number one you have lost the extra road shoulder visibility to the right and by aiming down you lose distance visibilty as well. I can tell you where I live that going JDM and aiming down is a sure fire way to get a deer across the hood of your car. There also seems to be a high population of morons that wear all black and walk the major roads at night.

Anointed_DC5
10-18-2005, 12:16 PM
LOL yeah I know about those all black wearing idiots, do you have any idea which reflector would come closest to the stock reflector?

clekers
11-11-2005, 07:31 PM
There's no difference that ican see

apettey
12-10-2005, 09:40 PM
what they said^^^

AznBlitz
12-28-2005, 09:11 PM
Does anyone know of any websites that sell the 05 JDM HID headlights?

I also want to know if anybody knows of any place that can get the newer style rsx headlights that come with hids??

how rare is this item???

thanks

turbo81
01-19-2006, 08:42 AM
yeah i'm lookin for the newer style headlights for rsx too..

been lookin for it quite some time ago.

Anointed_DC5
01-19-2006, 12:09 PM
If you want the 05+ JDM headlights w/HID you can contact Kamispeed. They don't stock them but you can order them I believe the price is roughly $1375. Good luck.

RSX-CT
01-19-2006, 09:59 PM
$1375 for JDM HID headlights that point in the wrong direction, OMG.

RSX_JDM_Integra
01-26-2006, 02:44 PM
whos gonna know if thats JDM or not. hahaha i can say my headlights are JDM too. ours are the same as JDM. actually it even says Honda on it so im guessin it is jDM