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Old 12-02-2009, 07:28 PM   #1
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Scratching Sound on Startup

So lately I noticed that on start ups I hear a scratching sound from the engine bay for about one second then it goes away. This only happens on cold starts. I think it might be my starter. Car starts up fine just with that scratching noise. Ideas?
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Old 12-02-2009, 07:42 PM   #2
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Have someone start your car while you look in the engine bay.
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i hear the same thing
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Yep. Starters going out. Just wait til it goes out.
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Old 12-02-2009, 07:46 PM   #5
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Yep. Starters going out. Just wait til it goes out.
oh joy just what I want for winter. I'll keep an eye on it.
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Old 12-02-2009, 07:55 PM   #6
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i got the same problem how much a starter goes for?
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Old 12-02-2009, 08:06 PM   #7
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i have 125k miles on my car. I get this when I dont start my car within days. on the other hand, I dont get that sound when I start it up everyday.
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Old 12-02-2009, 08:57 PM   #8
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same problem on cold start (sometimes).
I thought it was a starter and even got a new one. Turns out it's not.. Old one was tested and is working fine, no damage. So the new one is still sitting on the shelf
Had this for more than a year now, and it doesn't get worse. But still a mistery for me.
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Old 12-02-2009, 09:13 PM   #9
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Same here. It's not an every day thing either. Some days the "scratching" is a bit longer, sometimes it doesn't happen at all.

Would plugs have anything to do with it? I checked my starter the first time I heard it, and went through the bay with no luck on finding the problem.

-It made this sound on startup this morning very slightly. When I left work, it didn't do it at all.
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Old 12-02-2009, 09:16 PM   #10
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my cars been doin that for awhile too now, it happens about 2-3 times a month, and it only happens when i remote start it.
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Old 12-03-2009, 08:46 AM   #11
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timing chain vibration due to the tensioner not pressurizing quick enough when the oil is cold and thick. try cranking the motor once or twice without starting when it's cold. it should then start up without the noise.
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Old 12-03-2009, 09:04 AM   #12
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timing chain vibration due to the tensioner not pressurizing quick enough when the oil is cold and thick. try cranking the motor once or twice without starting when it's cold. it should then start up without the noise.
starter is what comes to mind to, but what was said above makes since. try it out and see what happens. nice response
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Old 12-03-2009, 12:41 PM   #13
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timing chain vibration due to the tensioner not pressurizing quick enough when the oil is cold and thick. try cranking the motor once or twice without starting when it's cold. it should then start up without the noise.
thanks I'll give that a try today...considering is 10 degrees outside
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Is it this sound?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqJ-Fidvzqg
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Starter gear isn't retracting as fast as it use to.
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Old 12-03-2009, 03:06 PM   #16
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Same noise here, it's the starter.
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Old 12-03-2009, 03:07 PM   #17
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nah it doesnt sound like that, it doesnt last as long and sounds much higher in tone.
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The sound on the link posted is not the same sound I am experiencing.
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Starter gear isn't retracting as fast as it use to.
That's what it is. Theres a thread lurking around here about this where somebody did a few tests in different temperatures with the starter off the car. The solenoid gets sticky and doesn't retract fast enough.. I'm sure you could try cleaning it/lubing it but I don't know if it'd be a long term fix. I'm 99% sure you can only buy the starter assembly too, not just the solenoid that you need.
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Holy shit, I thought this was just happening to me... looks like its not... It's weird cause after the sound happened to me a couple times I was like "ahh shit my starter must be getting ready to go out" cause it did sound like my starter, but then I was like... well what if its not the starter and is something else? I figured this since this only happens when it is blistering cold outside, I didn't figure the cold would affect the starter so I thought it was something of the engine since cold oil is thick and might not be getting to certain places right away for start up, but after reading, I'm thinking its definitely the starter and starting to believe that maybe the COLD DOES HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE STARTER since its now basically cold everywhere and people are having this issue???

What you all think?
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Old 12-03-2009, 07:17 PM   #21
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I'm gonna say the sound I am experiencing is not the starter. 1) my car starts up right away. 2) the link posted sounds NOTHING like what I experience. I tried what rensoyka suggested and it worked perfectly. It was the coldest its been this year and I cranked it once and then the second time it started right up. (I didn't even mean to start it but it did with no scratching sound). I think the youtube link posted is a separate issue and very well could be the starter. If I can I'll try to post a video of what I am experiencing. Maybe this weekend.


sidenote: I got my oil changed a few weeks ago. I noticed on the receipt that it said 10w30. Of course I went in a said my car needs 5w30 especially in this cold climate. The tech told me he put in 5w30, but I'm not quite sure I believe him now considering this issue.
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That's what it is. Theres a thread lurking around here about this where somebody did a few tests in different temperatures with the starter off the car. The solenoid gets sticky and doesn't retract fast enough.. I'm sure you could try cleaning it/lubing it but I don't know if it'd be a long term fix. I'm 99% sure you can only buy the starter assembly too, not just the solenoid that you need.
Eventually, if that is what it is, it will eat up the ring gear on the flywheel too, and you will need more than a starter to fix the problem.
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Eventually, if that is what it is, it will eat up the ring gear on the flywheel too, and you will need more than a starter to fix the problem.
If I remember correctly the person who did the tests checked out his flywheel also and there was no damage, same with the starter gear teeth.. I was surprised with it because he said it had been grinding for him for 1+ years.. I'm going to try to find this thread it'll pretty much answer all of TS's questions..
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http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread...arter+solenoid

I don't have time to read through it right now but that's the thread..
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I have the same noise sometimes when I start up. HOWEVER, does any of you guys experience this noise when accelerating between the 2000 to 300 rpm range sometimes?
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