Just got K-Pro. EuroEP3-R But i am worried..

alex s2000 · 02-04-2005, 08:39 AM

Worried that i am running seriously lean..

I have AEM CAI, SKUNK2 Catback, TODA RH and now k-pro with Aarons tuned cai map. As we dont get the wide band lambda (Narrowband) here in Europe. there is no way that i know of to somehow get my A/F- readings. i know there are gadgets out there for an xxx amount of money but does anybody know if there is any other way to get readings, like volt convertions or something.. Someone?

mustang2pilot · 02-04-2005, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by alex s2000

Worried that i am running seriously lean..

I have AEM CAI, SKUNK2 Catback, TODA RH and now k-pro with Aarons tuned cai map. As we dont get the wide band lambda (Narrowband) here in Europe. there is no way that i know of to somehow get my A/F- readings. i know there are gadgets out there for an xxx amount of money but does anybody know if there is any other way to get readings, like volt convertions or something.. Someone?

I've adapted my K-Tools to be able to use the Secondary O2 voltage for calculating A/F. But I'm unsure if this requires an aftermarket sensor, or uses an existing sensor input.

Can you post up a datalog? I'll be able to tell from that...

alex s2000 · 02-04-2005, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by mustang2pilot

I've adapted my K-Tools to be able to use the Secondary O2 voltage for calculating A/F. But I'm unsure if this requires an aftermarket sensor, or uses an existing sensor input.

Can you post up a datalog? I'll be able to tell from that...

hmm.. i see, so if i understand you correctly i can use the secondary honda sensor to get a reading?

Of course i will post a datalog, will do that later today after work...

alanb · 02-04-2005, 10:32 AM

the secondary sensor on the euro ep3 is narrowband as far as i know

if only it were that simple-u'll need a wideband somewhere

krystar · 02-04-2005, 11:33 AM

yea like alan said the secondary sensor is a narrowband. it only reads from 14.6-14.8 or there abouts.

conradb212 · 02-04-2005, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by alanb

the secondary sensor on the euro ep3 is narrowband as far as i know

if only it were that simple-u'll need a wideband somewhere

Alan, don't you have plenty of discussion on work-around for this issue at the Civic Type-R board in the UK? If so, Alex is more likley to find an answer there.

Hey, haven't seen you around much, old lad. What's been keeping ya?

mustang2pilot · 02-04-2005, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by alanb

the secondary sensor on the euro ep3 is narrowband as far as i know

if only it were that simple-u'll need a wideband somewhere

AEM’s Wideband UEGO Controller

This looks to be the popular choice...

alanb · 02-04-2005, 04:08 PM

yes conrad busy with tax returns -31 January was the deadline but thats over now so ive more free time now

the ctr site has a couple of guys who have wired in the sec 02 with a wideband and then converted the voltage to the equivalent a/f
workd quite well and they also have realtime digital /analogue displays on aem units for example

i think its important that a/f is monitored on the ep3's -my own soln was a plx wideband in the 3rd bung on the toda race header -cant datalog but i get realtime display and cleverly can sync a vid of the a/f display against a kpro datalog

im busting to move to move to the next n/a level which appears to be itbs, the ips cams are very intersting but with toda already im not sure that the change is cost effective

the crower cams seem to be throwing out a lot of n/a power too

no doubt a very special year for the kseries i feel

trying to be patient!

hows your own modding path coming on?

alanb · 02-04-2005, 04:24 PM

alex heres the definitive thread on the ctr site

http://www.civictype-r.co.uk/phpbb2/...ic.php?t=41543

alex s2000 · 02-04-2005, 04:36 PM

Thank you guys, for all the input i am going to look in to what you have said.. by the way, here are my loggs.. pull from 20km/h on third and a pull from 60km/h on fourth.

Edit: how do i post the files??

02-04-2005, 08:39 AM	#1
alex s2000 New Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 8 iTrader: (0)	Just got K-Pro. EuroEP3-R But i am worried.. Worried that i am running seriously lean.. I have AEM CAI, SKUNK2 Catback, TODA RH and now k-pro with Aarons tuned cai map. As we dont get the wide band lambda (Narrowband) here in Europe. there is no way that i know of to somehow get my A/F- readings. i know there are gadgets out there for an xxx amount of money but does anybody know if there is any other way to get readings, like volt convertions or something.. Someone?

02-04-2005, 11:33 AM	#5
krystar Master Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Streamwood/Chicago Posts: 23,880 iTrader: (8)	yea like alan said the secondary sensor is a narrowband. it only reads from 14.6-14.8 or there abouts. __________________ Deaths: Ferrari F40 40-130 by train lengths Bentley Continental GT 60-100 by bus lengths Lexus ISF 60-100 by a bus length Kills:Porsche Cayenne S 0-90

02-04-2005, 10:32 AM	#4
alanb Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 506 iTrader: (0)	the secondary sensor on the euro ep3 is narrowband as far as i know if only it were that simple-u'll need a wideband somewhere

02-04-2005, 04:08 PM	#8
alanb Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 506 iTrader: (0)	yes conrad busy with tax returns -31 January was the deadline but thats over now so ive more free time now the ctr site has a couple of guys who have wired in the sec 02 with a wideband and then converted the voltage to the equivalent a/f workd quite well and they also have realtime digital /analogue displays on aem units for example i think its important that a/f is monitored on the ep3's -my own soln was a plx wideband in the 3rd bung on the toda race header -cant datalog but i get realtime display and cleverly can sync a vid of the a/f display against a kpro datalog im busting to move to move to the next n/a level which appears to be itbs, the ips cams are very intersting but with toda already im not sure that the change is cost effective the crower cams seem to be throwing out a lot of n/a power too no doubt a very special year for the kseries i feel trying to be patient! hows your own modding path coming on?

02-04-2005, 04:24 PM	#9
alanb Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 506 iTrader: (0)	alex heres the definitive thread on the ctr site http://www.civictype-r.co.uk/phpbb2/...ic.php?t=41543

02-04-2005, 04:36 PM	#10
alex s2000 New Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 8 iTrader: (0)	Thank you guys, for all the input i am going to look in to what you have said.. by the way, here are my loggs.. pull from 20km/h on third and a pull from 60km/h on fourth. Edit: how do i post the files??