Im doing a persuasive speech :

CharmaneStar · 02-09-2006, 05:59 PM

Im doing a persuasive speech for my marketing class, but i need to submit a topic in soon to the professor. I want to do something with autocrossing, but any other topic other than cars will work. You guys have any recommendations on topics that incorporate autocross? If not, any topic at all?

**18463** · 02-09-2006, 11:22 PM

You could do a speech on why the double wishbone suspension is better for autocross than a MacPherson strut suspension. You would have to explain the geometry advantages of the double wishbone set up versus the strut. You could also explain why automotive designers use the strut suspension even though it is "inferior." It would take some research but if you have the time it should prove interesting to any gearheads in the class. For the rest, well, you probably didn't listen to their speech either.

Just a suggestion.

E36M · 02-09-2006, 11:56 PM

Maybe that more power only hurts the average driver?

CharmaneStar · 02-09-2006, 11:59 PM

thanks much guys, im thinking about those topics currently. Any other topics are welcome =)

Midnight Runner · 02-10-2006, 11:34 AM

street racing vs auto-x?

Chrsx · 02-10-2006, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 18463

You could do a speech on why the double wishbone suspension is better for autocross than a MacPherson strut suspension. You would have to explain the geometry advantages of the double wishbone set up versus the strut. You could also explain why automotive designers use the strut suspension even though it is "inferior." It would take some research but if you have the time it should prove interesting to any gearheads in the class. For the rest, well, you probably didn't listen to their speech either.

Just a suggestion.

That's a technical evaluation... not something to persuade. It would be interesting, but there's nothing to debate. The facts all lean one way.

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Originally Posted by Midnight Runner

street racing vs auto-x?

Yeah, that would be a tough.

You're going to into car-related, because the natural tendency is to pick something that is a point of complaint or uninformed contention.

The purpose of this assignment is probably to take a side on a debatable issue... and defend it. You can't really debate technical advantages/disadvantages. They just ARE.

It's hard to do this on a hobby because it's just a hobby and has little practical value... unless you talk about how learning the limits of your car at the track help you on the street. Good luck finding data to back you up, though.

The only car-related topic I can think of off the top of my head is making the public roads safer by having police enforce safe driving laws, rather than speed laws.

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Zzyzx · 02-10-2006, 01:14 PM

... I like that exception....

cvillersxs · 02-10-2006, 02:01 PM

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-= Requesting Help on School Work =-

Requesting help with school work is acceptable so long as you are just looking for help finding resources to complete your work. We will NOT accept requests to actually have Club RSX members "do" your work for you.

Exception: If you post pictures of your girlfriend (or you, if you're female), with Club RSX written on your exposed breasts (no nipples of course), we will allow requests for homework.

I'm a fan of this.

lando · 02-10-2006, 02:18 PM

Alright, enough with teh bewbies. I don't mind him asking for topics. But if you ask for help with your outline you get teh lokc

My .02 is that people don't know enough about cars or racing to make it an effective persuasive topic. Persuasion implies people are familiar enough with something to have at least formed some sort of opinion, one you hope to change.

My freshman year in college I did a switch to Mac persuasive speech. That was 1995. With OS X out now and a billion viruses in the wild the speech should be a lot easier. But now we're off topic.

MentalMidget · 02-10-2006, 02:41 PM

Troll the Lounge for ooooooh about 3 seconds and you'll find a dozen topics to persuade someone about.....

C25A1guy · 02-10-2006, 03:22 PM

I remember doing this shit back in college (when I was still going to college). I did a persuasive speech on the fact that drivers that auto-x and/or road race make for better and safer drivers on the motorway (my gosh that sounds unbelievably british, don't it?).

If you ever get into parly, let me know, I love parly.

C25A1guy · 02-10-2006, 03:25 PM

Oh, and a big hint to get you a better score, DON'T WRITE OUT YOUR ENTIRE SPEACH! Know your facts, know what you're going to say and just use an outline or bulleted notes to help you along the way. This way, you keep your head up, eyes on your audiance and allows you to utilize hand movements within "the box" and also allows you to "walk the diamond" if you're not at a lecturn.

lando · 02-10-2006, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by C25A1guy

I did a persuasive speech on the fact that drivers that auto-x and/or road race make for better and safer drivers on the motorway

I think this is probably the best bet if you want to talk about racing in some form. It's akin to the gun control argument which always has teeth (you could even work in a comparison)

Joeycurl · 02-10-2006, 04:20 PM

Just like last two post:
I would suggest you present the benefit of the skills one acquires auto-x'ing (ie. knowing how to handle your car in a emergency situation) vs. the average driver

lando · 02-10-2006, 04:28 PM

You could also have a broader topic of why it's important to learn car control, with autox as one of many ways to do so (along with 1-day skip barber/jim russell clinics, etc)

C25A1guy · 02-10-2006, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by lando

I think this is probably the best bet if you want to talk about racing in some form. It's akin to the gun control argument which always has teeth (you could even work in a comparison)

Hehe, I did the gun control thing in that class too. I rocked the opponet's world. Yea, can you tell I'm pro-gun?

cammyman1 · 02-10-2006, 05:55 PM

i remember when i had to one in a comm class i did it on hurricane prep because i live in florida. you live in cali you should to it on earthquake prep. its easy and all of the info is more than likely in one place you'll just have to make up a few references.

C25A1guy · 02-10-2006, 07:18 PM

Probably won't work cuz us naitive californians have this shit pounded into our brains from day 1

SaCH · 02-10-2006, 07:24 PM

dont do something stupid like that, do a topic that would interest everyone in the class. not just yourself.

gunner252 · 02-23-2006, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by C25A1guy

Hehe, I did the gun control thing in that class too. I rocked the opponet's world. Yea, can you tell I'm pro-gun?

i have a persuasive speech in 2 wks - gonna do the same thing - pro-gun.

02-09-2006, 05:59 PM	#1
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CharmaneStar Hello Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: CA Posts: 1,590 iTrader: (0)	thanks much guys, im thinking about those topics currently. Any other topics are welcome =) __________________ STAY AWAY FROM Enduromotorsports.com<--Owner of shop is a SCAMMER Im not the only one HATING enduromotorsports.com <--Click me http://www.v6performance.net/forums/...d.php?p=836080<--Click me

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02-09-2006, 11:22 PM	#2
18463 I have a Hot Rod Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: S.E. Texas Posts: 368 iTrader: (3)	You could do a speech on why the double wishbone suspension is better for autocross than a MacPherson strut suspension. You would have to explain the geometry advantages of the double wishbone set up versus the strut. You could also explain why automotive designers use the strut suspension even though it is "inferior." It would take some research but if you have the time it should prove interesting to any gearheads in the class. For the rest, well, you probably didn't listen to their speech either. Just a suggestion.

02-10-2006, 11:34 AM	#5
Midnight Runner So Cal Historian Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: LAX Posts: 3,567 iTrader: (3)	street racing vs auto-x?

02-10-2006, 02:18 PM	#9
lando Here goes nothing Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The East Platform Posts: 5,222 iTrader: (3)	Alright, enough with teh bewbies. I don't mind him asking for topics. But if you ask for help with your outline you get teh lokc My .02 is that people don't know enough about cars or racing to make it an effective persuasive topic. Persuasion implies people are familiar enough with something to have at least formed some sort of opinion, one you hope to change. My freshman year in college I did a switch to Mac persuasive speech. That was 1995. With OS X out now and a billion viruses in the wild the speech should be a lot easier. But now we're off topic.

02-10-2006, 03:22 PM	#11
C25A1guy Need Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Chan Marino, CA Posts: 3,523 iTrader: (0)	I remember doing this shit back in college (when I was still going to college). I did a persuasive speech on the fact that drivers that auto-x and/or road race make for better and safer drivers on the motorway (my gosh that sounds unbelievably british, don't it?). If you ever get into parly, let me know, I love parly. __________________ 2002 Time Attack built Acura RSX: K24 being buildhttp://nasa-tt.com/ 2006 Honda Ridgeline RTL: Dead at 6,000 miles 2005 Honda Civic: H/U, Amps, Signal Processior, and Subs Installed 2007 Honda Ridgeline RTL: Ridgeline 2.0 is here

02-10-2006, 03:25 PM	#12
C25A1guy Need Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Chan Marino, CA Posts: 3,523 iTrader: (0)	Oh, and a big hint to get you a better score, DON'T WRITE OUT YOUR ENTIRE SPEACH! Know your facts, know what you're going to say and just use an outline or bulleted notes to help you along the way. This way, you keep your head up, eyes on your audiance and allows you to utilize hand movements within "the box" and also allows you to "walk the diamond" if you're not at a lecturn. __________________ 2002 Time Attack built Acura RSX: K24 being buildhttp://nasa-tt.com/ 2006 Honda Ridgeline RTL: Dead at 6,000 miles 2005 Honda Civic: H/U, Amps, Signal Processior, and Subs Installed 2007 Honda Ridgeline RTL: Ridgeline 2.0 is here

02-10-2006, 04:20 PM	#14
Joeycurl SOLO II Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Up and Down Cali Posts: 534 iTrader: (4)	Just like last two post: I would suggest you present the benefit of the skills one acquires auto-x'ing (ie. knowing how to handle your car in a emergency situation) vs. the average driver

02-10-2006, 04:28 PM	#15
lando Here goes nothing Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The East Platform Posts: 5,222 iTrader: (3)	You could also have a broader topic of why it's important to learn car control, with autox as one of many ways to do so (along with 1-day skip barber/jim russell clinics, etc)

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02-10-2006, 07:18 PM	#18
C25A1guy Need Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Chan Marino, CA Posts: 3,523 iTrader: (0)	Probably won't work cuz us naitive californians have this shit pounded into our brains from day 1 __________________ 2002 Time Attack built Acura RSX: K24 being buildhttp://nasa-tt.com/ 2006 Honda Ridgeline RTL: Dead at 6,000 miles 2005 Honda Civic: H/U, Amps, Signal Processior, and Subs Installed 2007 Honda Ridgeline RTL: Ridgeline 2.0 is here

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SaCH baby buffett Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 13,432 iTrader: (3)	dont do something stupid like that, do a topic that would interest everyone in the class. not just yourself. __________________ Coming soon: 2009 Mercedes-Benz C300 "In life and business, there are two cardinal sins.. The first is to act precipitously without thought and the second is to not act at all." -Carl Icahn