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Old 08-01-2009, 07:15 PM   #51
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The following chart is for 02-04 RSX-S and 05-06 RSX-S with standard final drive. It shows the effects that tire size has on speed and shift points for each gear. The first column is for stock tires. Shift point is 8300 rpm. I put this together to see what effect different size drag tires would have on shift points and speed.

02-04-----RSX-S-----Tire-------02 stock---BFG DR----BFG DR----BFG DR----Hoosier-DR---M H slick---05 stock
-------------------------size---205/55/16-205/50/15-205/40/17-225/50/15-225/50/15-8.5/24.5/15-215/45/17
-----------------------diameter------24.9------23.1-------23.5-------23.9--------24.2----------24.5----------24.6

-------------RPM-------DROP-------MPH------MPH--------MPH-------MPH--------MPH---------MPH-----------MPH
1st---------8,300------------------42.88-----39.78------40.47-----41.16------41.67--------42.19---------42.36
2nd--------8,300-----5,411------65.77-----61.01------62.07------63.13------63.92-------64.71---------64.98
3rd---------8,300-----5,911------92.34-----85.67-------87.15-----88.64-----89.75--------90.86--------91.23
4th---------8,300-----6,276-----122.13---113.30------115.27---117.23----118.70-------120.17-----120.66
5th---------8,300-----6,665-----152.10---141.11------143.55---145.99----147.83-------149.66-----150.27
6th---------8,300-----6,651-----189.82---176.10------179.15---182.20----184.48-------186.77-----187.53


05-06--RSX-S----------Tire-------02 stock---BFG DR---BFG DR----BFG DR----Hoosier DR---M H slick----05 stock
-------------------------size---205/55/16-205/50/15-205/40/17-225/50/15-225/50/15-8.5/24.5/15-215/45/17
-----------------------diameter------24.9------23.1-------23.5--------23.9---------24.2-----------24.5-----------24.6

--------------RPM------DROP-------MPH-------MPH-------MPH---------MPH--------MPH---------MPH------------MPH
1st------\---8,300-----------------39.50------36.64------37.28-------37.91------38.39-------38.86---------39.02
2nd---------8,300-----5,411-----60.58------56.20------57.17-------58.15------58.88-------59.61---------59.85
3rd---------8,300------5,911-----85.06------78.91------80.28-------81.64------82.67-------83.69--------84.03
4th---------8,300------6,276----112.50-----104.36-----106.17----107.98-----109.33-----110.69------111.14
5th---------8,300------6,665----140.10-----129.97-----132.22----134.47-----136.16-----137.85------138.41
6th---------8,300------6,651----174.84-----162.20-----165.01----167.82-----169.93-----172.03------172.74

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great info, but you got that for the 5 speed with the 4.3 or the 4.7? thanks
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Old 08-03-2009, 12:04 AM   #52
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I did the calculations.. according to my buddy that did the work.. if I had ,more horsepower & torque, I could do 223mph with the TSX 6th gear, Type-S Final Drive at 8600 rpms, rollin on my 19's!!
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Old 08-06-2009, 01:25 PM   #53
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I found this table, might be useful for anyone thinking of upgrading from 4.77's to the 5.062 FD:

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Old 09-06-2009, 03:28 AM   #54
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hai guys just wanted to share this calculator

http://www.fatboyraceworks.com/gears...raph&Compare=1
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Old 09-06-2009, 07:11 AM   #55
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^that's the one i've been using
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Old 09-16-2009, 07:04 PM   #56
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Great info! Helped me out a lot since i'm about to rebuild my tranny right now

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hai guys just wanted to share this calculator

http://www.fatboyraceworks.com/gears...raph&Compare=1
Thanks for the link!
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Old 11-02-2009, 09:42 AM   #57
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So if I were to just go with the TSX 6th strictly for highway use, how much worse would be the acceleration? Will it move like a slug compared to the OEM 6th? I just don't like that when I'm doing around 80mph, I'm revving at almost 4000rpm, which with my car, is constantly producing boost. Not much, but some. & I've already noticed it sucking my gas mileage like it's nothing. Is there a recommendation to do both the TSX 6th AND a lower final, or will one or the other do fine?
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Old 11-02-2009, 10:04 AM   #58
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the gear it longer so it will be worse. It isn't bad but it isn't great either.
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Old 11-02-2009, 03:03 PM   #59
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As long as I'm able to cruise at freeway speed without producing boost & being drowned out by noise, I'm not too concerned about the acceleration. If I need to pass, there's always lower gears. With the TSX 6th alone, I should be right around or even below, if what I've read is accurate. So I should be ok with just that for the time being. Then eventually get the 5.xxx final drive.
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a 5.0 final drive will take you the wrong way, you would want to go lower like a 4.0.
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For some reason this gear ratio stuff confuses me. So the bigger the number the longer the gear right, like a 5.XX would take you longer to accelerate then a 4.76 correct?
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nope, the other way around
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ok, just doing my research about tranny's here, so K20A2 i know you do road race right? what is better for that purpose? what kind of tranny are you using? i m planning on getting a k20z3 tranny for now, and building my stock one up, what would you recommend?

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So if I were to just go with the TSX 6th strictly for highway use, how much worse would be the acceleration? Will it move like a slug compared to the OEM 6th? I just don't like that when I'm doing around 80mph, I'm revving at almost 4000rpm, which with my car, is constantly producing boost. Not much, but some. & I've already noticed it sucking my gas mileage like it's nothing. Is there a recommendation to do both the TSX 6th AND a lower final, or will one or the other do fine?
in 6th gear I'm at about 2200rpm's and at 80mph I'm right at 3K rpm's and at 100rpm's I'm at 4K. I start building boost around 1700rpm's.. not much boost, if any is used to maintain a 65mph interstate speed.
I haven't taken it to a drag strip to see if I get better/worse 60' and 1/4 mile times, because I'm on heavier and wider 19's(than stock or my old 18's)..
I get around 270-320 miles per tank.. just a small amount of worse gas mileage driving in city stop-n-go traffic, I haven't had a need to do a road trip so I don't know what kind of gas mileage I'd get on the interstate. I drive it like I stole it most of the time, so gas mileage is not too important.. getting from point A to point B in style matters most hehehe

As far as Road noise? it's quiet, mainly hear just the road noise from the tires and surface of the road, no engine drone.

so all in all negligible fuel consumption difference, about the same range per tank.. dramatically decreased engine noise at highway speeds...
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ok, just doing my research about tranny's here, so K20A2 i know you do road race right? what is better for that purpose? what kind of tranny are you using? i m planning on getting a k20z3 tranny for now, and building my stock one up, what would you recommend?

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Joshua here in ClubRSX did my tranny this last time.. we did some experimenting with some different gearing, like the TSX 6th gear..
We also did Cryo and heat treating of the whole shebang in hopes of increasing durability (I've been through 2 other trannies). So far, so good!
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I've got a 5.062 lsd transmission great for all motor and circuit! If you guys have any questions about the driveability i can probably answer them if not try the best i can. I commute over 50 miles a day to work daily driven.
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I can't remember now, but at 70 or 75 in 5th (base) so this is equivilant to 6th in the type S I'm doing 3400 RPM's. Since there's a 12.3% difference between 5th / 6th currently and the 08 accord 5th gear, I'm thinking RPM would drop to 2992 or basically 3k at 70 / 75. Assuming you're not going up a hill, I'm thinking there should be enough torque produced at 3k + for basic flat highway driving. This is compared to the ~7% difference between the tsx 6th gear and the top gear in an RSX. At the same speed of 70 / 75 that typically gives you 3400 rpm, you would end up with 3150 or basically the difference of 5% between the tsx top gear and the accord top gear.
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I'm going to drive my car and take note of the power band / usable rpm speed etc...

The negative on the Accord gears is that they cost a bit more. Here's the Part numbers for the Accord gears needed and the prices I found (didn't look for best prices).
23580-R88-000 GEAR, MAINSHAFT FIFTH $77.33
23461-R88-000 GEAR, COUNTERSHAFT FIFTH $67.66
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I must have miscalculated, the difference between top gear in the RSX and TSX is 10%. I'm thinking the extra 3% from the accord gearing wouldn't be beneficial unless you're going downhill or you have a need to go 90+ all the time.

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I can't remember now, but at 70 or 75 in 5th (base) so this is equivilant to 6th in the type S I'm doing 3400 RPM's. Since there's a 12.3% difference between 5th / 6th currently and the 08 accord 5th gear, I'm thinking RPM would drop to 2992 or basically 3k at 70 / 75. Assuming you're not going up a hill, I'm thinking there should be enough torque produced at 3k + for basic flat highway driving. This is compared to the ~7% difference between the tsx 6th gear and the top gear in an RSX. At the same speed of 70 / 75 that typically gives you 3400 rpm, you would end up with 3150 or basically the difference of 5% between the tsx top gear and the accord top gear.
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Old 01-06-2010, 04:19 PM   #72
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Just a note to fix the table on the 1st page ... the 05-06 base 5-speed transmission code starts with PTD6-XXXXXXX. I know because I just took my 5-speed out of my car, which is an 06 base. My guess is because the speed sensor was changed for the high frequency sensor in 05. Here's a pic for reference:

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I wanted to knoe if i put on a k20z3 trans which came of a civic si will it fit on a o5 rsx type s?
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Old 02-15-2010, 06:09 AM   #75
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sorry, i'm a noob at this, but i have a question. if i change the 5th and 6th gear, along with the final drive to:-

5th 1.027
6th 0.921
final 5.062

the top speed will be lacking, but the acceleration would be greater right?
can the final drive be adjusted between 4.7 and 5.062 to get a desired top speed?
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