Gt40r 800+whp street rsx

[bkk6284]

Originally Posted by RSXING AZ

It's not, you just need the right parts and tuner. Manny hit 820whp on his 40R with room to go. K-series heads out flow Evo's and subie's so obviously making big power is not a problem. There are very few guys who get 800+whp out of
40R's in either camp. Here's some food for food. I've witnessed a b-series lay down 750whp with a T4/GT35R. There's more to it than turbo size....

Are you running GT37R? What A/r is the exhaust side?

[JadeGRSX]

ahh that sounds sooo sick

[RSXING AZ]

Originally Posted by bkk6284

Are you running GT37R? What A/r is the exhaust side?

Yes and .82

[boostedNB]

Originally Posted by RSXING AZ

It's not, you just need the right parts and tuner. Manny hit 820whp on his 40R with room to go. K-series heads out flow Evo's and subie's so obviously making big power is not a problem. There are very few guys who get 800+whp out of
40R's in either camp. Here's some food for food. I've witnessed a b-series lay down 750whp with a T4/GT35R. There's more to it than turbo size....

That's exactly why I was surprised to see all the people in here say its nearly impossible.

And there are a ton of 40r evo's making over 800. Hell a 35r one I personally know makes 700awhp on c16 and 40psi. No meth or nitrous.

Anyhow, I was just curious why people kept saying its not possible.

[RSXING AZ]

Originally Posted by boostedNB

That's exactly why I was surprised to see all the people in here say its nearly impossible.

And there are a ton of 40r evo's making over 800. Hell a 35r one I personally know makes 700awhp on c16 and 40psi. No meth or nitrous.

Anyhow, I was just curious why people kept saying its not possible.

I know what Tom's setup consists of that's why I said it would be tough. But yes, it's nothing that hasn't been done before.

And the Evo with a 35R making 700whp is completely out of his efficiency range. The 35R will boost 40psi but it's so inefficient most tuners stop at 30psi.

I think people are way to hung up on dyno numbers rather than how fast the car really is. Most guys make big numbers hit the track and run what a car with half the hp does....It makes no sense producing huge numbers if the car is slow. My buddy's Subie with a 30R and meth runs 11.0 all day long. His car has never been on a diet or even had slicks on it. I believe he is the fastest or second fastest street 30R subie. I'm sure GotBoost knows him from the Subie forums. He doesn't make big hp numbers but he stomps the competition. I guess what I'm saying is get the car to the track and then see what she can really do. Dyno numbers mean nothing, ET's mean everything.

[Gotboost98]

Originally Posted by RSXING AZ

I know what Tom's setup consists of that's why I said it would be tough. But yes, it's nothing that hasn't been done before.

And the Evo with a 35R making 700whp is completely out of his efficiency range. The 35R will boost 40psi but it's so inefficient most tuners stop at 30psi.

I think people are way to hung up on dyno numbers rather than how fast the car really is. Most guys make big numbers hit the track and run what a car with half the hp does....It makes no sense producing huge numbers if the car is slow. My buddy's Subie with a 30R and meth runs 11.0 all day long. His car has never been on a diet or even had slicks on it. I believe he is the fastest or second fastest street 30R subie. I'm sure GotBoost knows him from the Subie forums. He doesn't make big hp numbers but he stomps the competition. I guess what I'm saying is get the car to the track and then see what she can really do. Dyno numbers mean nothing, ET's mean everything.

Sadly evos with the same power tend to walk all over subarus. Its why evos with Fp-reds can run 550whp and run9.5 at140-145mph.....while subarus have a hard time breaking out of the 11s with a 30R-35R+
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfo8sOnP3Yw
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/2...BBQ_176931.htm

[RSXING AZ]

^^Is the Subie heavier? Which has better gearing?

[Gotboost98]

Originally Posted by RSXING AZ

^^Is the Subie heavier? Which has better gearing?

sti's are about 250lbs heaviers than wrx's pending on year wrx. Evos are I believe 40lbs lighter than sti's. Im too lazy to check.
Wrxs have better gearing imho for drag racing than sti's. Too short in the sti's. but to really drag race a wrx like those evos you would need PPG gears.


Evos have a much better motor. They are just better top end. Hell subarus have yet to break out of the 9s to my knowledge. Evos are in the 7s. with 1000whp, which COULD be daily driven but isnt.

[boostedNB]

The thing here is: we're talking about dyno numbers. I understand that it really doesn't mean shit and the real power figure is trap speed but that's not what the conversation is about right now.

BTW I disagree with your "35r inefficient above 30psi" statement. The car in question runs low 10's at 140 with shitty driving, and while the turbo might be pretty much maxed out, it is not way beyond its efficiency range. The hotside is .86 so it holds power/boost all the way to 8500rpm and ait's don't skyrocket or any knock is detected.

He's currently trying to get into 9's by improving his launch/shifts. Check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMa6X...layer_embedded

[boostedNB]

Originally Posted by Gotboost98

sti's are about 250lbs heaviers than wrx's pending on year wrx. Evos are I believe 40lbs lighter than sti's. Im too lazy to check.
Wrxs have better gearing imho for drag racing than sti's. Too short in the sti's. but to really drag race a wrx like those evos you would need PPG gears.


Evos have a much better motor. They are just better top end. Hell subarus have yet to break out of the 9s to my knowledge. Evos are in the 7s. with 1000whp, which COULD be daily driven but isnt.

There are a few subaru's in the 8's.

[Gotboost98]

Originally Posted by boostedNB

The thing here is: we're talking about dyno numbers. I understand that it really doesn't mean shit and the real power figure is trap speed but that's not what the conversation is about right now.

BTW I disagree with your "35r inefficient above 30psi" statement. The car in question runs low 10's at 140 with shitty driving, and while the turbo might be pretty much maxed out, it is not way beyond its efficiency range. The hotside is .86 so it holds power/boost all the way to 8500rpm and ait's don't skyrocket or any knock is detected.

He's currently trying to get into 9's by improving his launch/shifts. Check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMa6X...layer_embedded

I didnt agree with his statement either but I didnt want to totally tear up toms thread. with that kind of power I figured he be in the low 9s past the Fp red evos. Deff has the trap of a 9 second evo. He just has to keep working on it.

Originally Posted by boostedNB

There are a few subaru's in the 8's.

hot damn we made it out of the 9s

[JH4DC5K20A]

Any videos from a dig?

[TomRSX-S]

Originally Posted by mitchep3typer

Good numbers But yes I expected something a lil different...... guess im sticking with my s362. look at what I made on only 105.

heyy

your numbers are very nice congrats... now think of this if you put my brakes my rims and tires on your car and used the same dyno what numbers do you think your car would hit... you would be probably be close to 80 to 100 less... next time i am on the dyno i will bleed my brakes put some stock brakes on with drag wheels and i will be in the 700s with out changing the boost or my tune...there are so many ways to manipulate the dyno to get a high whp reading... i would never dyno my car on a dyno pack either its not true whp... RSXIN AZ said it right to many people are concerned about what horse power they run... i flared my fenders out for a reason so i can run a bigger rim and tire... i have very good traction with the bigger tire so i dont care that i am losing power by using a larger tire and rim because in the long run my car is faster that way then if i had small tires and more power...

[TomRSX-S]

Originally Posted by RSXING AZ

I know what Tom's setup consists of that's why I said it would be tough. But yes, it's nothing that hasn't been done before.

And the Evo with a 35R making 700whp is completely out of his efficiency range. The 35R will boost 40psi but it's so inefficient most tuners stop at 30psi.

I think people are way to hung up on dyno numbers rather than how fast the car really is. Most guys make big numbers hit the track and run what a car with half the hp does....It makes no sense producing huge numbers if the car is slow. My buddy's Subie with a 30R and meth runs 11.0 all day long. His car has never been on a diet or even had slicks on it. I believe he is the fastest or second fastest street 30R subie. I'm sure GotBoost knows him from the Subie forums. He doesn't make big hp numbers but he stomps the competition. I guess what I'm saying is get the car to the track and then see what she can really do. Dyno numbers mean nothing, ET's mean everything.

heyy

ok so i think your the only one on here so far that understands that i will lose alot of power running my big wheels and brakes.. when you say that u knew that my car would be tough to reach 800whp because of my set up is that what you were you talking about my set up ... alot of people on here dont realize that i am running very big wheels on my car because i had my fenders flared i am running 18 x 9 275 18 40 tire..... once i get 4bar map sensor i am going to change my brakes and put on the drag wheels crank the boost i dont see how i will not hit 800.....

[JayRSXS]

Needless to say your build is quite impressive and I hope you achieve your goals.

[bkk6284]

Originally Posted by TomRSX-S

heyy

ok so i think your the only one on here so far that understands that i will lose alot of power running my big wheels and brakes.. when you say that u knew that my car would be tough to reach 800whp because of my set up is that what you were you talking about my set up ... alot of people on here dont realize that i am running very big wheels on my car because i had my fenders flared i am running 18 x 9 275 18 40 tire..... once i get 4bar map sensor i am going to change my brakes and put on the drag wheels crank the boost i dont see how i will not hit 800.....

Doubt wheels will be the deciding factor in making or breaking 800whp.

[RSXING AZ]

Originally Posted by boostedNB

The thing here is: we're talking about dyno numbers. I understand that it really doesn't mean shit and the real power figure is trap speed but that's not what the conversation is about right now.

BTW I disagree with your "35r inefficient above 30psi" statement. The car in question runs low 10's at 140 with shitty driving, and while the turbo might be pretty much maxed out, it is not way beyond its efficiency range. The hotside is .86 so it holds power/boost all the way to 8500rpm and ait's don't skyrocket or any knock is detected.

He's currently trying to get into 9's by improving his launch/shifts. Check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMa6X...layer_embedded

You don't have to believe me about my T3/35R statement. I can tell you it's a fact, that beyond 30psi the turbo is done. I've been involved with three big 35R builds over the last few years. Having three different tuners all stating the same thing, the psi to hp numbers after 30psi are a joke. The turbo turns into a hairdryer at this point. You still don't believe me fine. Call the manufacture which is Garrett. They will give you the specs on the turbo and tell you the efficiency range. I've spoken with many Garrett reps so I already know the answer. You act like I'm making shit up. I've lived this crap for the last few years, what have you built?

Originally Posted by TomRSX-S

heyy

ok so i think your the only one on here so far that understands that i will lose alot of power running my big wheels and brakes.. when you say that u knew that my car would be tough to reach 800whp because of my set up is that what you were you talking about my set up ... alot of people on here dont realize that i am running very big wheels on my car because i had my fenders flared i am running 18 x 9 275 18 40 tire..... once i get 4bar map sensor i am going to change my brakes and put on the drag wheels crank the boost i dont see how i will not hit 800.....

Tom,

Instead of switching out the wheels and rotors just hit up a dynapack. You still lose a bit from the rotors but you'll be fine. I think your biggest limiting factor for hitting 800whp will be on your intake side. The guys I've seen hit 800+whp had massive throttle bodies, sheet metal intakes and 3in charge pipes. All in all don't sweat it, you have great traction on the street and more than enough horespower

[1_BAD_RSX]

assuming this is a 4094? what is the exhaust AR? anywhere else where all of the info of parts and build more specifics?

[MIndless_Child]

Originally Posted by RSXING AZ

You don't have to believe me about my T3/35R statement. I can tell you it's a fact, that beyond 30psi the turbo is done. I've been involved with three big 35R builds over the last few years. Having three different tuners all stating the same thing, the psi to hp numbers after 30psi are a joke. The turbo turns into a hairdryer at this point. You still don't believe me fine. Call the manufacture which is Garrett. They will give you the specs on the turbo and tell you the efficiency range. I've spoken with many Garrett reps so I already know the answer. You act like I'm making shit up. I've lived this crap for the last few years, what have you built?


Tom,

Instead of switching out the wheels and rotors just hit up a dynapack. You still lose a bit from the rotors but you'll be fine. I think your biggest limiting factor for hitting 800whp will be on your intake side. The guys I've seen hit 800+whp had massive throttle bodies, sheet metal intakes and 3in charge pipes. All in all don't sweat it, you have great traction on the street and more than enough horespower

MMMMM new intake manifold I need to stop sitting on my hands and get my car to AFI . NIce numbers man ! If anything i would just be happy with Evans tuning my car fuck the numbers you know it's going to run like a raped ape !

[hondaluver]

proops

[bkk6284]

Originally Posted by hondaluver

proops

I concur, mad proops

[TomRSX-S]

Originally Posted by 1_BAD_RSX

assuming this is a 4094? what is the exhaust AR? anywhere else where all of the info of parts and build more specifics?

gt4094r 1.06 exhaust ar

[boostedNB]

Originally Posted by RSXING AZ

You don't have to believe me about my T3/35R statement. I can tell you it's a fact, that beyond 30psi the turbo is done. I've been involved with three big 35R builds over the last few years. Having three different tuners all stating the same thing, the psi to hp numbers after 30psi are a joke. The turbo turns into a hairdryer at this point. You still don't believe me fine. Call the manufacture which is Garrett. They will give you the specs on the turbo and tell you the efficiency range. I've spoken with many Garrett reps so I already know the answer. You act like I'm making shit up. I've lived this crap for the last few years, what have you built?

Stop being such a dick about it. I disagree that it is completely toast after 30psi. Doesn't mean I dont think its at the top of, or a bit past its efficiency range.
I've seen the compressor maps. Ive seen the turbine maps for the different back housings. I've seen the dyno charts. Most don't take them past 30psi, true, but the few that do still make a bit more power. There are ways to bring the temps down such as water/meth injection. As far as what I've built I really don't think you wanna get into that with me. We have a shop that has put out quite a few big turbo sti's. I'm not acting like you're making this shit up, I'm saying you're exhaggerating a little. That's all

Anyways, before this gets into a flamefest, lets get back on topic:

Good work TomsRSX, I'm really curious to see your future re-dyno with more pressure and smaller wheels.

[The Spectacle]

Fuck the haters, I like the hood.

[1_BAD_RSX]

Originally Posted by TomRSX-S

gt4094r 1.06 exhaust ar

hmm our set ups are very similar