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Old 10-17-2016, 03:37 PM   #26
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^I thought that was only in the front?
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^I thought that was only in the front?
Rear also runs a wider rotor/hub.
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A x8.5 +50 is going to sit on the rear trailing arm. We ran x9 +54 on the rear of my car and it was scraping the rear trailing arm, and the 8.5 +50 is going to set in another 2mm. It's going to be difficult to get away with that wide of a tire without rolling the quarter panels...

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Is it possible to fit 245/40/17 on the back without rolling the quarter panels? Right now I have -1.5 of rear camber and they'll be mounted on a 17x8.5 +50. I'd prefer to not roll fenders and quarter panels if it's not necessary. Prolly gonna buy 245/40/17 for the front. Was gonna put 225/45/17 on the rear, but I'd prefer to run a square set up for the street so I can rotate tires to extend their life. I've still got those 17x7.5 RPF1s, so I think I'll just mount some cheap 215/45/17s on those to use in the back for gymkhana events.
my buddy is running 8.5 +50 rear 245/40, we had to roll his arch. he now has a 5mm spacer on there. The car sits so good.




Im also on a 8.5 +50 rear but with a 225/45 (track use). Main thing is it clears the arm just fine. My guess is a minor roll would be needed for a 225 too as the inner lip seems to point downwards on these cars, mine have a slight pull





both cars have about -1.5 rear camber.

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You are forgiven brother.

10mm more innner clearance than the 9j +54 ( which actually cleared the arm until i got loads of toe in when cornering)
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On the ITR, you can get 17x9 +54 to clear the rear trailing arm with enough negative camber. Unfortunately though, most people probably don't have enough front camber to really justify running enough rear camber and maintaining a good handling balance. Other aspects of the car could be changed to compensate but doesn't seem worth it.
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Thats true.

If i wasn't so attached to this car id be in a front and rear double wishbone car for sure.
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rear is basically double wishbone in the RSX... front is more important in my book, especially in a FWD car
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Rear of the DC5 is multilink trailing arm. It always has been despite Honda calling it wishbone since like 1985. I found a Honda press release from the '80s where it was showcasing the wishbone rear suspension on the new and improved Civic versus the old strut suspension of the Civic CVCC. The only difference between the two was Honda added three links to the new Civic. My friend brought up a good point when he said that any car can have trailing arm suspension, but only exotic cars have wishbone suspension. Calling it wishbone was just an obvious marketing ploy considering the fact that you kinda have to have at least one wishbone for it to be wishbone suspension. There's not a huge difference between the DC5 rear suspension and the 8th gen Civic rear, but Honda decided to call that multilink instead of wishbone. What's my point? Don't take the word of car manufacturers because their decisions are controlled by their marketing and legal divisions.

Back to the wheels. I have 225/45/17 RE71Rs mounted on 8j +50s right now and they clear just fine. I have plenty of room between the wheel and rear trailing arm right now, but that pinch seam in the wheel arch is massive and I maybe have 5mm clearance between that and the tire. I'm gonna break out a tape measure and then head on over to a wheel calculator site this weekend, but it's looking like I'll either have to stick with 225s or buy a fender roller
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the important part is short upper arm and longer lower arm for camber gain on compression. I guess strictly speaking double wishbone is something like the s2k has at A shaped arms. In my opinion it doesn't really matter what it looks like... I mean the DC5 doesn't even have a separate toe arm. in my book for something to be a multilink it needs at least 4 arms (upper, lower, toe, traction rod)


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Is there a reason why you're so against rolling fenders? its really easy..
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Did you have to pull the fenders at all to fit 255s under there? I'm wanting to go with the 245s cause I don't know how the 255s will fit and I don't really want to mount 255s on a 8.5" wheel. Also I'd like to keep my fender liners and fenders as they are.
255 fits just fine in the front 17x8 +38. I even ran a fenderliner until i hit something on the freeway and it ripped one side off
The rears with the 225 fit just fine as well. No rubbing at all front or rear.
I do have front and rear fenders rolled though.

I once had 255/40/17 starspecs on the rear and it was rub city
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Is there a reason why you're so against rolling fenders? its really easy..
I like keeping things unmolested.
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I like keeping things unmolested.
its not like its anything visible...
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I like keeping things unmolested.
So don't mod your car.
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I like keeping things unmolested.
*me looks at the mod list in that link in your signature*
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So don't mod your car.
There's a difference there. With most car mods, you can always go back. Rolling the lip on your quarter panels is pretty much permanent.

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There's a difference there. With most car mods, you can always go back. Rolling the lip on your quarter panels is pretty much permanent.
but why would you even need to go back with fenders?
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but why would you even need to go back with fenders?
Fuck if I know, but I just don't like doing things that are permanent out here because I rarely hang on to cars longer than a year on this island. They're always either getting sold off, or stripped and junked. Hell, in the 10 years I've been here, this Integra has been the longest I've owned a car. If it's something that has to be done then so be it, but I'd rather try to see if there's a way around it first. Also, I'm extremely lazy when it comes to fender rolling. Usually I just use a big hammer and then smooth it out with the roller, so the paint always suffers, but then again the paint on this car was shit from the factory to begin with. It has like 1 layer of paint and no clear coat.


But yeah back to the mods thing, I never would have went the route the previous owner went. He hydrolocked the original engine and decided to go retarded with it because government contract job and he's not a driver. I think he just likes having a cool car for bragging rights. I would have just bought a new engine from Honda (~$5k) if I were him. In hind sight, I should have said hell no to this car and bought a stock '98 spec DB8 ITR or a stock '05-'06 DC5 ITR, but I bought this car and now I'm kinda stuck with it bleeding my wallet dry.
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'98 DB8 ITR? Doesn't '98 make it a DC2? And here you were hating on DC2's saying the DC5 is better, haha
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DC5 is better. DB8 is the 4 door ITR. I have a 3 year old and coupe as a daily driver got old about a week after I bought the car.
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Might be able to swing 245/40/17 in the back without having to roll the quarter panels. Right now the seam is actually hanging over the tires. I have a finger gap between the seam and tire and haven't had any issues with rubbing, and the 245/40 is like 6mm shorter in height than the 225/45. Think I'll do some measuring on Saturday.
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DC5 is better. DB8 is the 4 door ITR. I have a 3 year old and coupe as a daily driver got old about a week after I bought the car.
Not a fan of the FD2R? Not saying anything against the DC5 or DB8, but it's another option.
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