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Old 12-27-2008, 06:50 PM   #1
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Cool Nitrous *CHAT*...Ima spray it till my shit hits the fan

So i thought an offical chat thread would be nice, cause ive noticed we've been using the q&a as a chat kinda along with some other threads so get in on this shit!!!!!



So i bought the rbc and comtech header and put them both on last night and the adapter plate i got with the rbc had an option to get nitrous ports put on it so i figured id just run my two stage on that, well turns out the ports are 1/8th inch and dry nozzles are, im assuming 1/16th cause they deff. dont fit. So now i have to order two new nozzles or cap one and use a wet shot nozzle because i was thinking that those are 1/8th inch.

Anyone use the adapter plate for there setup?
And whats your guys thoughts on spraying through that plate? I was a little worried because its between the throttle body and the manifold.

Well other than all that i loaded up the toda header, exhaust, cai, stocks cams map and tuned up the A/F and it pulls soooo nice now, i cant wait for better weather so i can start spraying again.
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Old 12-27-2008, 11:18 PM   #2
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All i know is...

CAI, K pro, walbro pump, stock injectors, 40 shot. (no other mods)

400 Fuel isnt enough and i hit a lean cut.

I didnt get to datalog, im trying to figure out before i go in for a datalog, you guys think its injector cycle 100%+ or simply not enough fuel? ( keep in mind i do have a pump)
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hmm... kpro<help<contents<search- nitrous at the bottem of the page i think it has some fuel values to get you started and they should be pretty rich you could try that and tune it up from there...i dunno about your duty cycle tho with out a datalog and i never sprayed on stock injectors so i dont know how far you might be running them

edit: this is a link from hondata, it seems their claiming to have run an 80 shot on stock injectors?? or am i reading it wrong

http://www.hondata.com/dynok20a2nos.html
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Old 12-28-2008, 09:56 PM   #5
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hmm... kpro<help<contents<search- nitrous at the bottem of the page i think it has some fuel values to get you started and they should be pretty rich you could try that and tune it up from there...i dunno about your duty cycle tho with out a datalog and i never sprayed on stock injectors so i dont know how far you might be running them

edit: this is a link from hondata, it seems their claiming to have run an 80 shot on stock injectors?? or am i reading it wrong

http://www.hondata.com/dynok20a2nos.html
Those are on 440s. Stocks are 310s.
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i have the adapter plate on my car but i dont have direct port. we have almost the same mods there. im also running the toda header, intake and exhaust with stock cams calibration
ive been messing with that map lately and im not sure if i like it its very rich all throughout even with all my bolt ons, how many miles are you getting to a tank?

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Those are on 440s. Stocks are 310s.
The car made 283 hp @ 7000 rpm (with nitrous) on stock injectors at about 94% duty cycle, which was about the same power as with 440cc injectors.

theres no way he made 283 on a 40 shot that has to be the 80
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hmm... kpro<help<contents<search- nitrous at the bottem of the page i think it has some fuel values to get you started and they should be pretty rich you could try that and tune it up from there...i dunno about your duty cycle tho with out a datalog and i never sprayed on stock injectors so i dont know how far you might be running them

edit: this is a link from hondata, it seems their claiming to have run an 80 shot on stock injectors?? or am i reading it wrong

http://www.hondata.com/dynok20a2nos.html

Here is my logic.

I had a 9 psi blower, with 25 shot on 520CC injectors at 100% duty (stock pump)

I went to 750cc stock pump with same setup, and got a duty cycle of 87%.

(out of efficiency still)

Then I got a pump and lowered my duty cycle down to about 70%.

With that being said (all at about 8000 RPM)

I would assume because I have a pump a 40shot shouldnt be a problem on stock injectors and therefore I just need more fuel.

Only reason im procrastinating is because its cold out and my heater takes a good 20 min (more the most trips) to heat up.

So.... Figured I would get as close to fuel parameters as possible so im not starting at 1400 fuel value and working my way down to 500 10pulls later. (ive done that before )
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The car made 283 hp @ 7000 rpm (with nitrous) on stock injectors at about 94% duty cycle, which was about the same power as with 440cc injectors.

theres no way he made 283 on a 40 shot that has to be the 80
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So.... Figured I would get as close to fuel parameters as possible so im not starting at 1400 fuel value and working my way down to 500 10pulls later. (ive done that before )
lol yeah i did that the first time i ran a dry shot, took me a whole bottle on a 50 to firgure out what i was doing lol

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well, long story short, i just sprayed and when slowing down, my car sound like it was misfiring. well i bought new plugs because the old ones' grounds were worn down pretty good. well, this didn't fix the problem. basically it sounds like it's misfiring while idling and driving on it, however while letting the rpms drop when slowing down, it sounds fine. this leads to me to believe that it's not firing on all cylinders. i don't know how to check to see if the injectors or if the coils are working, but try to start with that. im at a loss with the car. any ideas..

btw, its an 80 dry shot ran through kpro

edit: im using stock injectors and the max they run is about 90% duty cycle..i just need basic info for what the issue could be. i'll run n2o later after i get bigger injectors

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I'm confused. So now it's not misfiring at all?
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well, long story short, i just sprayed and when slowing down, my car sound like it was misfiring. well i bought new plugs because the old ones' grounds were worn down pretty good. well, this didn't fix the problem. basically it sounds like it's misfiring while idling and driving on it, however while letting the rpms drop when slowing down, it sounds fine. this leads to me to believe that it's not firing on all cylinders. i don't know how to check to see if the injectors or if the coils are working, but try to start with that. im at a loss with the car. any ideas..

btw, its an 80 dry shot ran through kpro

edit: im using stock injectors and the max they run is about 90% duty cycle..i just need basic info for what the issue could be. i'll run n2o later after i get bigger injectors
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what do you mean?
i don't like the idea of my inj running 90% so im going to invest in bigger one's once i figure out what's wrong with my car.

well, today i swapped the coils and injectors around and it is still only running on 3 cylinders. the #2 cylinder??(second from pulley) is not producing any power: ie when i unplug the coil or inj it doesn't change the sound of the idle. i put a test light to the inj plug and it showed power, then i laid the coil on the VC to check spark which it did. after doing some research, im beginning to believe its a burnt valve, but i won't know for sure until i do a compression check tomorrow. i'll let you guys know.
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